rockefeller center Posted May 5, 2004 Report Posted May 5, 2004 1. Donna Lee (Charlie Parker), Jaco Pastorius "Jaco Pastorius" (Epic/Legacy EK 64977) Jaco Pastorius, bass; Don Alias, congas Camp Colomby Studio, New City, October/Novemeber(?) 1975 2. The Water Bearer (Kirk Lightsey), Rudolph Johnson "The Second Coming" (Black Jazz, BJ/11) Rudolph Johnson, tenor saxophone; Kirk Lightsey, piano; Kent L. Brinkley, bass; Douglas J. Sides, drums Hollywood Spectrum Studios, Los Angeles, CA, 1973 release 3. Fly By Night (Roland Kirk), Roland Kirk "The Inflated Tear" (Atlantic Anniversary Edition, Rhino R2 75207) Roland Kirk, tenor saxophone; Dick Griffin, trombone; Ron Burton, piano; Steve Novosel, bass; Jimmy Hopps, drums Webster Hall, New York City, November 30, 1967 4. Little B's Poem (Bobby Hutcherson), Doug Carn "Infant Eyes" (Black Jazz, BJ/3) Jean Carn, vocals; Doug Carn, organ; George Harper, tenor saxophone, flute; Al Hall Jr., trombone; Michael Carvin, drums 1971 release 5. De Pois Do Amor, O Vazio (After Love, Emptiness) (R.C. Thomas), from Wayne Shorter "Odyssey Of Iska" (Blue Note CDP 7843632) Wayne Shorter, soprano saxophone; Dave Friedman, vibes and/or marimba; Gene Bertoncini, guitar; Ron Carter, bass; Cecil McBee, bass; Billy Hart, drums; Al Mouzon, drums; Frank Cuomo, percussion A&R studios, New York City, August 26, 1970 6. Empty Streets (Brandon Ross), taken from the "Universal Sounds Of America" compilation (CJR CD27) (Originally issued as New Life "Visions of the Third Eye"?) Brandon Ross, guitar, vocals; David Wertman, bass; Steve Reid, drums 1978 7. Friends and Neighbors (Ornette Coleman), Ornette Coleman "Friends and Neighbors, Ornette Live at Prince Street" (RCA 74321851592) Ornette Coleman, violin; Dewey Redman, tenor saxophone; Charlie Haden, bass; Ed Blackwell, drums Recorded live on Prince Street, New York City, February 14, 1970 8. Houston Street, Fred Frith "Step Across The Border (music for the film by Nicolas Humbert and Werner Penzel)" (ReCDec 30) Fred Frith, guitar; John Zorn, alto saxophone Recorded live at The Kitchen, New York City, February 1989 9. Baptismal (William Fischer), Joe Zawinul "The Rise & Fall Of The Third Stream" (Rhino R2 71675, also includes Zawinul's "Money In The Pocket") Joe Zawinul, piano; William Fischer, tenor saxophone; Jimmy Owens, trumpet; Alfred Brown, viola; Selwart Clarke, viola; Theodore Israel, viola; Kermit Moore, cello; Richard Davis, bass; Roy McCurdy and/or(?) Freddie Waits, drums Olmsted Studios, New York City, October 16, 1967 10. India (J.A. Flores, M.O. Guerrero), Gato Barbieri "Chapter One: Latin America" (Impulse! MCAD-39124) Gato Barbieri, tenor saxophone; Raul Mercado, quena; Amadeo Monges, Indian harp; Quelo Palacios, acoustic guitar; Antonio Pantoja, anapa, erke, siku, quena, erkencho; Adalberto Cevasco, Fender bass; Domingo Cura, bombo Indio; Pocho Lapouble, drums; Jorge Padin and El Zurdo Roizner, percussion Buenos Aires, April, 1973 11. Harlem (Hans Koller), Hans Koller Big Band "New York City" (MPS 06024 9813437, 2003 reissue) Hans Koller, tenor saxophone; Ferenc Aszodi, Benny Bailey, Arthur Pavlicek, Jaromir Hnilicka, Alfa Schmid, trumpet; Peter Herbholzheimer, Gustav Brom Jr., Mojmir Bartek, Franz Simons, Josef Pelc, trombone; Emil Mangelsdorff saxophone, flute; Frantisek Navratil, Bronislav Horak, Zdenek Novak, Joki Freund, Josef Auders, Jan Konopasek, saxophone; Josef Blaha, piano, oboe; Jiri (George) Mraz, bass; Bill Moody, drums MPS-Studio, Villingen, January 18, 1968 12. No Ke Ano Ahiahi (Traditional), Medeski, Martin & Wood "Combustication" (BlueNote 7243 4 93011 2 2) John Medeski, keyboards; Billy Martin, drums, Chris Wood, bass Recorded at the Magic Shop, New York City, 1998 release 13. Tears For Dolphy (Ted Curson), Ted Curson "Tears For Dolphy" (Black Lion BLCD760190) Ted Curson, trumpet; Bill Barron, tenor saxophone; Herb Bushler, bass; Dick Berk, drums Acousti Studio, Paris, August 1, 1964 14. I'm Confessin' (That I Love You) (Daugherty/Neiburg/Reynolds), Marc Ribot "Saints" (Division One/Atlantic 7567-83461-2) Marc Ribot, guitar Sperry Sound & Picture, New York City, release date: September 18, 2001 15. Just One of Those Things (Cole Porter), issues? Jack Pastorius (Jaco's father), vocals, stand-up drums; Kenny Duca, Cordovox Date of recording probably 1961. Jack Pastorius died November 1, 2004: http://www.jacopastorius.com/features/writings/jack.asp I'm not sure whether the personnel listings for #4 and #11 are accurate since the booklet infos don't indicate who is playing on each track. Corrections welcome. Thanks very much for taking the time to listen, for your input and for helping me to spread these discs. It was fun. Quote
MartyJazz Posted May 5, 2004 Report Posted May 5, 2004 (edited) 2. The Water Bearer (Kirk Lightsey), Rudolph Johnson "The Second Coming" (Black Jazz, BJ/11) Rudolph Johnson, tenor saxophone; Kirk Lightsey, piano; Kent L. Brinkley, bass; Douglas J. Sides, drums Hollywood Spectrum Studios, Los Angeles, CA, 1973 release Rudolph Johnson!!???????? Who the hell is Rudolph Johnson? Wonder what happened to him. Well, I'm glad that it wasn't a tenor I should have recognized. Kirk Lightsey however is someone I've liked a long time. Saw him at Bradley's in NY quite a few times during the late '70s-early '80s. Nice work. Edited May 5, 2004 by MartyJazz Quote
Eloe Omoe Posted May 5, 2004 Report Posted May 5, 2004 2. The Water Bearer (Kirk Lightsey), Rudolph Johnson "The Second Coming" (Black Jazz, BJ/11) Rudolph Johnson, tenor saxophone; Kirk Lightsey, piano; Kent L. Brinkley, bass; Douglas J. Sides, drums Hollywood Spectrum Studios, Los Angeles, CA, 1973 release Never heard of Rudolph Johnson before, but the tune was not new to me. There's another version of it on Clifford Jordan's "Two Tenor Winner" from 1984 (Criss Cross 1011) with Junior Cook, Kirk Lightsey, Cecil McBee and Eddie Gladden . Now I know why I had been toying with Jordan's name for some days, RE #2. But the Jordan version is faster (too fast, in my opinion) and I think I like the Johnson one a lot more. A very nice discovery, indeed. I guess I have to buy that CD. Thanks, again. Luca Quote
Dan Gould Posted May 5, 2004 Report Posted May 5, 2004 No introductions, descriptions, etc., just-the-facts answers? Quote
rockefeller center Posted May 5, 2004 Author Report Posted May 5, 2004 No introductions, descriptions, etc., just-the-facts answers? I don't have that much to say but maybe I'll add some background info regarding a tune or two. Quote
rockefeller center Posted May 5, 2004 Author Report Posted May 5, 2004 Luca, thanks for the heads up on that Jordan recording. Will check it out. Quote
catesta Posted May 5, 2004 Report Posted May 5, 2004 Talk about some real stumpers. B) Count me in as one that has never heard of Rudolph Johnson. RC, is the rest of the cd as solid as the track you included on the BFT? Quote
maren Posted May 5, 2004 Report Posted May 5, 2004 Very interesting to me how many people thought #6 (Brandon Ross, recorded in 1978) sounded like Cassandra Wilson -- when in fact Brandon was musical director of Cassandra's backing bands from 1993 ("New Moon Daughter" release) through 1998! Quote
rockefeller center Posted May 5, 2004 Author Report Posted May 5, 2004 (edited) Talk about some real stumpers. B) Count me in as one that has never heard of Rudolph Johnson. RC, is the rest of the cd as solid as the track you included on the BFT? I'd say "The Second Coming" is a great album. You can find sound samples of three other tracks here (scroll down to the bottom): http://www.blackjazz.com/newrelease.html Btw, #15 Jack Pastorius is Jaco's father. Edited May 5, 2004 by rockefeller center Quote
catesta Posted May 5, 2004 Report Posted May 5, 2004 You had to send me to that site. Now I've found the Walter Bishop Jr. date "Coral Keys". Thanks, RC, I'm going to grab the Rudolph Johnson. Quote
Big Al Posted May 5, 2004 Report Posted May 5, 2004 Btw, #15 Jack Pastorius is Jaco's father. I'm glad you said that; I read the answer wrong! I mean, I was scratching my head wondering when/how/why Jaco would be singing and playing drums but no bass?!?!?!? Quote
Man with the Golden Arm Posted May 5, 2004 Report Posted May 5, 2004 8. Houston Street, Fred Frith "Step Across The Border (music for the film by Nicolas Humbert and Werner Penzel)" (ReCDec 30) Fred Frith, guitar; John Zorn, alto saxophone Recorded live at The Kitchen, New York City, February 1989 ...freekin John ... man i have always wondered about that disc. that's a soundtrack from a german movie / documentary? i should have stuck with my gut again... but zorn gets so much the shaft around here that i figured no way ... not on another bft. tell me more about that disc will ya! Quote
Noj Posted May 5, 2004 Report Posted May 5, 2004 I keep thinking I'm going to get better at these BFTs, but I think I'm getting worse. 3 in my collection that I didn't recognize. If this were Caddyshack, Ty Webb would tell me, "You...You're not good, you stink." Thanks again for the great disc, Rockefeller Center. Quote
rockefeller center Posted May 5, 2004 Author Report Posted May 5, 2004 (edited) 8. Houston Street, Fred Frith "Step Across The Border (music for the film by Nicolas Humbert and Werner Penzel)" (ReCDec 30) Fred Frith, guitar; John Zorn, alto saxophone Recorded live at The Kitchen, New York City, February 1989 ...freekin John ... man i have always wondered about that disc. that's a soundtrack from a german movie / documentary? i should have stuck with my gut again... but zorn gets so much the shaft around here that i figured no way ... not on another bft. tell me more about that disc will ya! Check out Adam's thread (has some useful links): http://www.organissimo.org/forum/index.php...ross+the+border Some details on Frith's site: http://www.fredfrith.com/fredrecords/FRO03.htm You may want to read Rick Anderson's AMG review which is linked in the answers (click album title). I suggest you to get the DVD. If you don't like it, I'll buy it off from you as I need to replace my worn out VHS anyway. Edit: this film/disc is not about a single concert. It shows Frith with different musicians and people all over the world. Edited May 5, 2004 by rockefeller center Quote
couw Posted May 5, 2004 Report Posted May 5, 2004 still not sure what to think of that track 8. It being Zorn, doesn't exactly provide a stable context to place it within. Have been fascinated and have bored by the track several times more... Quote
couw Posted May 5, 2004 Report Posted May 5, 2004 And that Zawinul is of course very intruiging. What's the album like? Is there more of this kind of "third stream"-ish stuff? Can you or anyone give some background on Jaco's father? The track was placed well, just behind the monkish fun of Ribot, I didn't take it all too serious and it brought a smile to my face. Having listened to it isolated from that setter upper, the corniness was shining through at times. (said the guy with the corny albums) And please enlighten me on that Gato Barbieri. As I wrote, I have been listening to online samples of that Impulse 2CD set and nothing really struck me as tha shid like this track! Does it stick out as I assume it does or is the rest really not that bland at all? Quote
rockefeller center Posted May 5, 2004 Author Report Posted May 5, 2004 (edited) Can you or anyone give some background on Jaco's father? Jack Pastorius, 83 was a professional singer and drummer based in Pennsylvania. Around 1959 Jack and family (wife, three kids) moved down to South Florida (Fort Lauderdale or Oakland Park) because he got a steady gig there or something, not sure. He later went back to the Philadelphia area where he's still living. So far I was only able to find a 45 on "Seven Eleven Records" plus a tape with some songs I got from a friend (I took "Just One Of Those Things" from that tape). The P family has another relatively well known member: http://www.ushistory.org/germantown/people/pastorius.htm Jaco P, Jack P, Ralph Jopling And that Zawinul is of course very intruiging. What's the album like? Is there more of this kind of "third stream"-ish stuff? Definitely. You get some soul stuff too (one track w/electric piano). The AMG link has sound samples for each track. And please enlighten me on that Gato Barbieri. As I wrote, I have been listening to online samples of that Impulse 2CD set and nothing really struck me as tha shid like this track! Does it stick out as I assume it does or is the rest really not that bland at all? "Encuentros" and "India" are my favorites, with "India" being #1 (I'm talking about the tracks on "Chapter One: Latin America"). I must admit that I hardly ever listen to the entire album. Jack Pastorius died November 1, 2004: http://www.jacopastorius.com/features/writings/jack.asp Edited November 29, 2004 by rockefeller center Quote
mikeweil Posted May 5, 2004 Report Posted May 5, 2004 As I posted in the discussion thread I had a listen to the Zawinul and find it to be very consistent. I also experienced it has to be listened to at full volume rather than subdued, like one would think with a jazz with strings date. The strings are taken as a ensemble part just as important as any other player. This is the work of arranger/saxist William S. Fischer just as much as Zawinul's. Fischer is a vastly underrated arranger, he did many a date for Atlantic, two LPs by Nat Adderley for A&M with Zawinul on 'em etc. But the second LP coupled with it on the Rhino CD, Money in the Pocket, is a hard bop date much in the manner of Cannonball's later work with Joe. Congratulations: This is the one item I find in every BFT that I have in my collection but do not recognize! Very fine disc, and very nice discussion, all you folks here! Thanks! p.s. Is the Brandon Ross track on any of his CDs or just on this sampler? Quote
rockefeller center Posted May 6, 2004 Author Report Posted May 6, 2004 Very fine disc, and very nice discussion, all you folks here! Thanks! p.s. Is the Brandon Ross track on any of his CDs or just on this sampler? Glad you like it! Thanks. As I've guessed in my answers post, this track may have originally appeared on New Life "Visions of the Third Eye." I couldn't find a track list for this album. Quote
rockefeller center Posted May 6, 2004 Author Report Posted May 6, 2004 Such a handsome guy. Thanks, Noj. Quote
Noj Posted May 6, 2004 Report Posted May 6, 2004 I was just employing a few extra thumbs up... Here's a more celebratory image: Quote
marcoliv Posted May 6, 2004 Report Posted May 6, 2004 this lady could be the best blindfold test EVER!!!! Quote
marcoliv Posted May 6, 2004 Report Posted May 6, 2004 i have some Lightsey in my collection but not this one. my wish list is getting bigger & bigger as i´ve included Doug Carn too! i know it´s written like this on Wayne's album but it´s wrong. "Depois do Amor, O Vazio" is the right way. congrats once again Rock for this great compilation! Marcus Oliveira Quote
Joe G Posted May 6, 2004 Report Posted May 6, 2004 Sorry I haven't been able to participate in the discussions; my computer connection has been down, and there's no time at work to read and post. But the cd is fun to listen to, and I'm glad I recognized at least a couple of players! Thanks for sending that out to me. I'll keep listening. Quote
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