Hank Posted April 24, 2004 Report Share Posted April 24, 2004 (edited) Looking for Rahsaan Roland Kirk's Here Comes the Whistleman---the one reissued by Label M a few years ago. Anyone have one to part with or have a lead on one? Will trade (see my sale list), buy, do chores, etc.... Edited April 24, 2004 by Hank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted April 24, 2004 Report Share Posted April 24, 2004 I've got the Atlantic one - is that different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted April 24, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 24, 2004 Well, the date was originally done for Atlantic. On CD it's appeared at least three times: the digipak European version (1998), the Label M version (2001), and a recent one from Water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave9199 Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 I just bought the reissue on Water & I saw on CD Universe that it listed 2 hidden tracks, but mine doesn't have them. Which issue are those on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacknife Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 sent you a pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave9199 Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 Don't know how long they take jacknife but I haven't received your pm yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacknife Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 Don't know how long they take jacknife but I haven't received your pm yet. oops, I meant I sent Hank a pm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted April 28, 2004 Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 Didn't the Label M include some bonus track(s)? (I have the European digipack reissue) ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted April 28, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 28, 2004 I believe it's the Label M version that has the extra tracks. That's why I'm tracking (pun) down that particular version. Thanks to kulu se mama, who has one for trade. Also thanks to jacknife for his offer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l p Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 i was told that there aren't any bonus tracks on the label m reissue. allmusic lists 2 extra tracks with audio samples. it's hard to tell what tunes these are, but a discographer says 'no'. can anyone confirm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted April 30, 2004 Author Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 (edited) i was told that there aren't any bonus tracks on the label m reissue. Well, I guess I'll be finding out soon.... Several places (CD Universe, Tower) I've checked on-line have samples of the two bonus tracks, so I'm assuming they're there (though these are all listed as releases from Water!, despite the Label M release pictured). (By the way, Len, I can make you a tape of them, if in fact they do exist.) Edited April 30, 2004 by Hank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
l p Posted April 30, 2004 Report Share Posted April 30, 2004 those samples on cduniverse and allmusic do not correspond to the correct track order. i think the 'bonus tracks' are Aluminum Baby Step Right Up water probably copied label m, and the problem arose when >>LABELM split Here Comes The Whistleman and I Wished Upon The Moon into 2 tracks each because of the intro.>>> problem solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave9199 Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 Well, I can straighten this whole thing out now. I have the Water reissue & the M reissue. There are NO BONUS TRACKS! What happened is the M label numbering of tracks doesn't match up with the cd because 2 tracks are just between song chatter IDed as tracks. l p is right with the titles of the "extra tracks". The Water reissue put the chatter as countdowns to the next track instead so the track numbering matches up. Oh well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted May 5, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2004 I have the Water reissue & the M reissue. There are NO BONUS TRACKS! Oh well... Yep, looks like you're right. Anyone interested in a Label M copy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted May 6, 2004 Report Share Posted May 6, 2004 (edited) Huh? ...Now that's where the LP version ended, but the Label M CD reissue tags on, without credits anywhere, two absolutely essential scorchers with what seems to be Byard on piano and an over-the-top bass blowout from Holley. Kirk plays saxophones on both, being his own horn section. This makes an already satisfying date an essential one. Given these additions, this might arguably be the place to start for an interested but underexposed listener who wants to experience how dazzlingly original Kirk was. — Thom Jurek 1.  Roots (Kirk) - 4:09  2.  Here Comes the Whistle Man (Kirk) - 4:53  3.  I Wished on the Moon (Parker/Rainger) - 4:48  4.  Making Love After Hours (Kirk) - 4:20  5.  Yesterdays (Harbach/Kern) - 3:54  6.  Aluminum Baby (Byard/Byard) - 4:41  7.  Step Right Up (Kirk) - 4:41  8.  - 6:11  9.  - 4:48 (http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&u...l=Aldu36j2371r0) Tracklist of the Atlantic Original Sound reissue I have: 1. Roots (Kirk) - 4:09 2. Here Comes the Whistle Man (Kirk) - 4:53 3. I Wished on the Moon (Parker/Rainger) - 4:48 4. Making Love After Hours (Kirk) - 4:20 5. Yesterdays (Harbach/Kern) - 3:54 6. Aluminum Baby (Byard/Byard) - 4:41 7. Step Right Up (Kirk) - 4:41 You're really sure the Label M does not have the two bonus cuts? ubu (edited to correct link) Edited May 6, 2004 by king ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave9199 Posted May 6, 2004 Report Share Posted May 6, 2004 As sure as someone who has both versions can be. The reviewer obviously didn't listen to it and took the info from somewhere else, or just made it up. Here's the times on the Water reissue: 1. Roots (4:12) 2. Here Comes The Whistleman (5:42) (spoken intro before this song which starts it's countdown at about -1:38 or so) 3. I Wished On The Moon (6:02) (another spoken intro before this song, not as long as previous, I forget the timing, but starts in the negative numbers) 4. Making Love After Hours (4:22) 5. Yesterdays (4:08) 6. Aluminum Baby (6:12) 7. Step Right Up (4:48) The total time of the M reissue & the Water reissue are 1 second apart. Check your own track 6 & 7 for the times. I don't know where they came up with the two 4:41 times, but the whistleman track could've been a dislexic mistake, but the bonus track times match up with track 6 & 7. A lot of CD have incorrect timings printed on them. How, don't know. That always amazes me. Especially if that was the first cd issue and lots of albums had wrong timings and weren't fixed until cds came along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hank Posted May 6, 2004 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2004 You're really sure the Label M does not have the two bonus cuts? Looks like I'm a little slow here. I just got a sealed copy of the Label M version from a fellow board member and unwrapped it to check for any hidden tracks (they got to be here somewhere)... and found there was no disc at all!! Now that's what I call "hidden tracks".... Has anyone else ever opened a brand new CD and found no disc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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