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Andrew Hill and Joe Henderson had a rare musical communication, as evidenced by the extraordinary music that they made together at Blue Note. In the liner notes to Black Fire, Hill emphasizes the degree to which he and Joe Henderson understand each other musically and like playing together.

Given this fact, I am a bit puzzled as to why they never recorded together after 1970, particularly as they both moved to Nothern California around the same time. Is there any story here? Did they have some sort of fall out?

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Wow, I forgot that I even started this thread back in 2003.

Unfortunately, I never had a chance to talk to Andrew Hill again, and have never received an answer to my question.

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Its too bad they didn't record together more. "Black Fire" and "Point of Departure" are high points of 60's jazz.

Along with Joe Henderson's Our Thing!

I love Black Fire, and what later came out as a single (Conn) as PAX is one hell of an interesting date too...

Date: February 10, 1965

Location: Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ

Label: Blue Note

Andrew Hill (ldr), Joe Henderson (ts), Freddie Hubbard ©, Andrew Hill (p), Richard Davis (b), Joe Chambers (d)

And here are the details of the concert in 1988 (which I've never heard before, though I'm sure a couple here have)...

Date: March 25, 1988

Location: New Morning Club, Paris, France

Label: [radio broadcast]

Joe Henderson, Andrew Hill (ldr), Joe Henderson (ts), Andrew Hill (p), Mick Hutton (b), Mark Taylor (d)

a. 01 [unknown title] - 15:59 (Composer Unknown)

b. 02 Ask Me Now - 18:03 (Thelonious Monk)

c. 03 Tenor Madness [aka Royal Roost; aka Rue Chaptal; aka Sportin' Crowd] - 16:14 (Kenny Dorham, Hank Mobley, Sonny Rollins)

d. 04 Invitation - 18:55 (Bronislau Kaper, Paul Francis Webster)

e. 05 All The Things You Are - 19:58 (Jerome Kern, Oscar Hammerstein II)

f. 06 Body And Soul - 22:39 (Johnny Green, Edward Heyman, Robert Sour, Frank Eyton)

g. 07 The Theme - 10:05 (Miles Davis)

First selection is a fast blues - title needed.

SOURCE

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These 2 records have them together too:

2/65,1/70 Andrew Hill "Cosmos" Blue Note 459

Ron Carter bass, Joe Chambers drums, Richard Davis bass, Joe Henderson tenor sax, Andrew Hill piano, Bennie Maupin flute/bass clarinet/tenor sax, Ben Riley drums, Freddie Hubbard trumpet, Pat Patrick flute/alto sax/baritone sax, string quartet

1 Euterpe 2 Erato 3 Pax 4 Eris 5 Calliope 6 One for One 7 Didddy Wah 8 Without Malice 9 Poinsettia 10 Illusion 11 Fragments

2/65,8/69,1/70 Andrew Hill "One For One" Blue Note BN-LA459-H20

Joe Henderson ts, Freddie Hubbard tp, Richard Davis b, Joe Chambers ds Benny Maupin ts/fl, Ron Carter b, Paul Motion ds, Mickey Roker ds, Pat Patricks as/fl/bs, Charles Tolliver tp, Ben Riley ds

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These 2 records have them together too:

2/65,1/70 Andrew Hill "Cosmos" Blue Note 459

Ron Carter bass, Joe Chambers drums, Richard Davis bass, Joe Henderson tenor sax, Andrew Hill piano, Bennie Maupin flute/bass clarinet/tenor sax, Ben Riley drums, Freddie Hubbard trumpet, Pat Patrick flute/alto sax/baritone sax, string quartet

1 Euterpe 2 Erato 3 Pax 4 Eris 5 Calliope 6 One for One 7 Didddy Wah 8 Without Malice 9 Poinsettia 10 Illusion 11 Fragments

2/65,8/69,1/70 Andrew Hill "One For One" Blue Note BN-LA459-H20

Joe Henderson ts, Freddie Hubbard tp, Richard Davis b, Joe Chambers ds Benny Maupin ts/fl, Ron Carter b, Paul Motion ds, Mickey Roker ds, Pat Patricks as/fl/bs, Charles Tolliver tp, Ben Riley ds

Of the various sessions that make up these albums, Henderson only appears on the first: the 2/65 session, which, as someone mentioned earlier, was recently issued on cd as "Pax." For me, that session is the least successful Henderson-Hill collaboration (I don't know why; it's a perfect band).

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Its too bad they didn't record together more. "Black Fire" and "Point of Departure" are high points of 60's jazz.

Along with Joe Henderson's Our Thing!

I love Black Fire, and what later came out as a single (Conn) as PAX is one hell of an interesting date too...

Date: February 10, 1965

Location: Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, NJ

Label: Blue Note

Andrew Hill (ldr), Joe Henderson (ts), Freddie Hubbard ©, Andrew Hill (p), Richard Davis (b), Joe Chambers (d)

Yeah! Forgot about Pax! Great, great record!

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