Are audiophile labels scared about Ornette?

[porcy62]

I was listening to Ornette Coleman early albums (on cd), and I suddenly realized that no one of them was reissued on vinyl, as far I know.

The contemporary or atlantic Lps well worth a vinyl edition.

Maybe it is a problem of market, I can imagine Bill Evans, or Miles Davis, beats Ornette on selling numbers, but I think there is enough people out there ready to buy 5000 copies of "Something else" on vinyl (or Dolphy's "Out There")

Would you buy an Ornette, or Eric, or some "modernist", 180 grams vinyl?

Edited April 16, 2004 by porcy62

[Claude]

"Out there" has just been reissued on SACD, so there seems to be an audiophile market for Eric Dolphy albums.

But it could also be a label question. Fantasy-owned albums are often reissued as audiophile CDs or LPs, but Atlantic sessions very rarely, even Coltrane albums which would surely sell.

[porcy62]

Right, but Dolphy has so many title on Fantasy, I hope to see some more, on vinyl I mean!

About Fantasy, Analogue Production started a very expensive series of 45 rpm reissues, after a 180 grams series of the same titles.

Edited April 16, 2004 by porcy62

[Chuck Nessa]

Two things - first, the original master tapes do not exist for the Atlantic sessions and second, you have an unrealistic idea of how many jazz cds/lps sell. 5000 is a dream.

[Claude]

I don't know what tapes have been used for the latest Rhino CD reissues of the Ornette quartet sessions, but they are really up to audiophile standards. Much better than the first CD reissues.

From the sonic point of view, it would be worth releasing new LP pressings made from these tapes.

[Leeway]

I've seen a few Ornette LP reissues on the market. Don't know if they are "audiophile." Here's a link to some Ornette reissue LPs at our hyperbolic pals at Dusty Groove:

Dusty Groove Ornette LPs

Edited April 17, 2004 by Leeway

[AmirBagachelles]

The original early Atlantics can be had in great shape at good prices (<$50). Your choice of mono and stereo, they were reissued many times by Atlantic in the 60s. Try the UK vinyl for Twins, and as for the Japanese To Whom Who... and that U.S. remainder-tracks title (the names escapes me, sorry), you'll have to do with CDs I guess.

[porcy62]

Two things - first, the original master tapes do not exist for the Atlantic sessions and second, you have an unrealistic idea of how many jazz cds/lps sell. 5000 is a dream.

Thanks Chuck and to everyone.

Two question. What would be a realistic number for Coleman, Dolphy and for Bill Evans, Davis? The Atlantic master are missin for Coltrane to?

[wolff]

, but I think there is enough people out there ready to buy 5000 copies of "Something else" on vinyl (or Dolphy's "Out There")

Check out Classic Records. They've done SE in 33 and 45rpm on vinyl. Hopefully, they will get around to OTL in a year or two.

[Brandon Burke]

This is Our Music was reissued on LP about two years ago but it wasn't an "audiophile" situation. I agree with Chuck. It's not exactly a situation where you're even going to make your money back so......

[Matthew]

, but I think there is enough people out there ready to buy 5000 copies of  "Something else" on vinyl (or Dolphy's "Out There")

Check out Classic Records. They've done SE in 33 and 45rpm on vinyl. Hopefully, they will get around to OTL in a year or two.

Here's the list that Classic Records are to get out for the Blue Note Mono Series:

1. BLP 1530 Jutta Hipp Jutta Hipp

2. BLP 1533 Johnny Griffin Introducing Johnny Griffin

3. BLP 1535 Kenny Dorham Afro-Cuban

4. BLP 1536 J.R. Monterose J.R. Monterose

5. BLP 1538 Lee Morgan Indeed

6. BLP 1560 Hank Mobley Hank

7. BLP 1568 Hank Mobley Hank Mobley

8. BLP 1573 John Jenkins John Jenkins with Kenny Burrell

9. BLP 1577 John Coltrane Blue Train

10. BLP 1580 Johnny Griffin The Congregation

11. BLP 1588 Sonny Clark Cool Struttin'

12. BLP 1590 Lee Morgan Candy

13. BLP 1595 Cannonball Adderly Somethin' Else

14. BLP 4003 Art Blakey Moanin

15. BLP 4023 Dizzy Reese Star Bright

16. BLP 4024 Jackie McLean Swing,Swang,Swingin

17. BLP 4031 Hank Mobley Soul Station

18. BLP 4032 Sonny Red Out of the Blue

19. BLP 4037 Horace Parlan Us Three

20. BLP 4041 Tina Brooks True Blue

21. BLP 4043 Horace Parlan Speakin' My Piece

22. BLP 4045 Freddie Redd Shades of Redd

23. BLP 4058 Hank Mobley Roll Call

24. BLP 4074 Horace Parlan On The Spur of the Moment

25. BLP 4105 Ike Quebec It Might As Well Be Spring

Featuring:

· Use of ORIGINAL MONO MASTER TAPES

· Tube Mastering using AMPEX 300 tape machine electronics

· Lacquer cutting using restored original WESTREX 2B MONO Head

· Use of Restored WESTERN ELECTRIC MONO cutting AMP

· Authentic DEEP GROOVE / No GROOVE GUARD Pressings

· Original Labels and Tip On Jackets

Edited April 18, 2004 by Matthew

[wolff]

Oh well, no "Out To Lunch".

I wonder how many pieces they sell per title???