Teddy Charles

[Rooster_Ties]

2 hours ago, Joe said:

Crying out for a proper box set, I'd say!

Lord yes!!

[romualdo]

3 hours ago, Joe said:

Crying out for a proper box set, I'd day!

you mean a proper or "Proper" box?

[Joe]

8 hours ago, romualdo said:

you mean a proper or "Proper" box?

 the former. 

[felser]

AFAIK, the Proper Boxes are a thing of the distant past.  Someone like Fresh Sound could do a great job on a Teddy Charles set if they had a mind to do so.

[JSngry]

Fresh Sounds makes the trains run on time. 

[mikeweil]

2 hours ago, felser said:

Someone like Fresh Sound could do a great job on a Teddy Charles set if they had a mind to do so.

https://www.freshsoundrecords.com/teddy-charles-albums/4648-the-complete-tentet-vibrations-digipack-edition-.html

https://www.freshsoundrecords.com/teddy-charles-albums/4411-adventures-in-california.html

[Teasing the Korean]

Tentet arrived today and I just finished listening.  This stuff is right up my alley:  Postwar Twilight Zone jazz, along with some moody private-eye jazz sounding tracks.  I am kind of amazed that it has taken me this long to find Teddy Charles, but better late than never!  This will pair nicely on a playlist with Duane Tatro's Jazz for Moderns!

Edited September 19, 2022 by Teasing the Korean

[colinmce]

3 minutes ago, Teasing the Korean said:

Tentet arrived today and I just finished listening.  This stuff is right up my alley:  Postwar Twilight Zone jazz, along with some moody private-eye jazz sounding tracks.  I am kind of amazed that it has taken me this long to find Teddy Charles, but better late than never!  This will pair nicely on a playlist with Duane Tatro's Jazz for Moderns!

Jealous that you're hearing Tentet for the first time! Such a great record.

[Larry Kart]

8 minutes ago, Teasing the Korean said:

Tentet arrived today and I just finished listening.  This stuff is right up my alley:  Postwar Twilight Zone jazz, along with some moody private-eye jazz sounding tracks.  I am kind of amazed that it has taken me this long to find Teddy Charles, but better late than never!  This will pair nicely on a playlist with Duane Tatro's Jazz for Moderns!

Indeed, very similar. All pretty serious too, not just mood music, though it can serve that purpose. George Russell's "Lydian M-1" is a high light.

[Teasing the Korean]

2 minutes ago, Larry Kart said:

George Russell's "Lydian M-1" is a high light.

Agreed!  On first listen, that stuck out, along with the opening track, and also "You Go to My Head."

I had it on in the background while I was working, so I couldn't give it my undivided.

Edited September 19, 2022 by Teasing the Korean

[medjuck]

How come nobody's mentioned Gil Evans's arrangements for  Tentet? 

[Teasing the Korean]

13 minutes ago, medjuck said:

How come nobody's mentioned Gil Evans's arrangements for  Tentet? 

As for me, I haven't had a chance to absorb who arranged what!

[Larry Kart]

1 hour ago, medjuck said:

How come nobody's mentioned Gil Evans's arrangements for  Tentet? 

Perhaps in part because the instrumentation -- particularly the rather insistent timbre of Charles' vibes -- isn't well suited to Gil's typically more evanescent sound world. Thus the sound of the Tenet per se tends to predominate on the tracks Gill arranged; though the opening of "You Go to My Head,"  with its echo of the opening of "Boplicity," certainly bears  his fingerprint.

[Rooster_Ties]

I think Jimmy Raney’s guitar — both his particular playing, and also (and maybe especially) the timbre of guitar/his-guitar — are a pretty significant part of the overall sound of much of the Tentet album, and the two most key tracks from Word For Bird (which are included as bonus tracks on some Tentet releases on CD).

His playing (and sound) — along with Charles’ vibes — really give the the entire proceedings quite a different character.

[Teasing the Korean]

23 minutes ago, Rooster_Ties said:

His playing (and sound) — along with Charles’ vibes — really give the the entire proceedings quite a different character.

Yes, the guitar and vibes give it that air of mid-century futurism!

 

[romualdo]

On 17/09/2022 at 11:57 PM, mikeweil said:

https://www.freshsoundrecords.com/teddy-charles-albums/4648-the-complete-tentet-vibrations-digipack-edition-.htm

great pic!! - looks like there are two Art Farmers present - who is that just to the left of Mal Waldron?

[Joe]

2 hours ago, romualdo said:

great pic!! - looks like there are two Art Farmers present - who is that just to the left of Mal Waldron?

Art's twin, bassist Addison Farmer. 

[Gheorghe]

57 minutes ago, Joe said:

Art's twin, bassist Addison Farmer. 

He also had a nephew, his name is Julius Farmer and he is also a bassist. I heard him on some ocasion here in Austria.

Who of them is Teddy Charles. I never saw a picture of him but liked his passionate vibe playing on many of the fifties albums, like on that "Blue Moods" from Miles, with Mingus and Elvin Jones and no piano, or "Miles Davis-Lee Konitz" where he plays on side B, and I think there was also a Wardell Gray album on Prestige, where he plays. I think I heard his vibe just in my beginnings, when those Prestige albums where easy to buy. But I never saw him pictured. 

[felser]

54 minutes ago, Gheorghe said:

 

Who of them is Teddy Charles. I never saw a picture of him but liked his passionate vibe playing on many of the fifties albums, like on that "Blue Moods" from Miles, with Mingus and Elvin Jones and no piano, or "Miles Davis-Lee Konitz" where he plays on side B, and I think there was also a Wardell Gray album on Prestige, where he plays. I think I heard his vibe just in my beginnings, when those Prestige albums where easy to buy. But I never saw him pictured. 

The guy with the glasses in the very front.

[mikeweil]

1 hour ago, Gheorghe said:

 I think there was also a Wardell Gray album on Prestige, where he plays. I think I heard his vibe just in my beginnings, when those Prestige albums where easy to buy.

That actually was a Teddy Charles session. 

Here is a photo.

 

https://www.jazzwax.com/2008/12/teddy-charles-o.html

[JSngry]

Wasn't he a boatsman or something? Had a yacht that he sailed to Newport? Something like that?

[jazzbo]

Yes. He is interviewed on his boat in later years in the Jackie Paris documentary.

[Teasing the Korean]

1 hour ago, mikeweil said:

What is his preference in wine, beyond red?

[romualdo]

2 hours ago, Joe said:

Art's twin, bassist Addison Farmer. 

never knew Art & Addison were twins

[jlhoots]

On 9/15/2022 at 6:35 PM, felser said:

You can get the whole 'Word From Bird' CD for under $10 - just go that route.  Well worth it.