Soulpope MIA?

[Rabshakeh]

I'll miss Allen. Obviously sometimes he could be quite difficult, but he is an original thinker with a lot to say. 

His substack is a strong dose of Allen-ness in all of its forms. 

[clifford_thornton]

oh, for sure. 

I am of mixed feelings about deleting posts/content. Sometimes, sure, there's shit that is just trolling and needs to go. But there's also loads of information that can fall between the cracks and get lost, especially if an account is closed. Then again, the internet is an extremely fragile place and we're losing content all the time, way more than a wayback machine can keep up with... so maybe it's best to just assume all of our statements, crazy as they might be, will disappear in due course.

[mikeweil]

1 hour ago, Rabshakeh said:

I'll miss Allen. Obviously sometimes he could be quite difficult, but he is an original thinker with a lot to say. 

His substack is a strong dose of Allen-ness in all of its forms. 

Couldn't say it better.

[JSngry]

1 hour ago, clifford_thornton said:

oh, for sure. 

I am of mixed feelings about deleting posts/content. Sometimes, sure, there's shit that is just trolling and needs to go. But there's also loads of information that can fall between the cracks and get lost, especially if an account is closed. Then again, the internet is an extremely fragile place and we're losing content all the time, way more than a wayback machine can keep up with... so maybe it's best to just assume all of our statements, crazy as they might be, will disappear in due course.

From my end, I am hesitant to delete content, but I will do it when things devolve into a batshit crazy flame war. But even then, just delete the batshit crazy stuff and keep any relevant content. If it still rages on, my preference is to lock the thread and keep the content visible.

For as long as I've been doing this, no threads (except blatant spam) get deleted. Locked is another story. But even that is limited to those threads that refuse to stop spiraling.

[Stompin at the Savoy]

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But the Remler thing was enough, as you can see I am accused of slagging her, just another insulting and personal thing. I offered an opinion that I thought she was not a good guitarist. That's all, not trashing and not slagging.

Now I get it: calling somebody who was a professional musician "not a good guitarist" is not slagging them.  Moreover, suggesting the reason she was not a good guitarist because of drug use - not trashing her!  Pointing out that she played "wrong notes" there, there and there is also just not slagging her!  I'm sorry, if all that is not slagging her, what is?  What would it take to slag her? And of course if you actually listen to her, she is actually a pretty great player.  She was gifted; IMO Lowe is not in her league.

[clifford_thornton]

I have no bun in that fight, and opinions are like assholes -- everybody has one. 

Allen and Remler don't make the same kind of music in any way, shape, or form, so "leagues" are pointless to get into.

[JSngry]

54 minutes ago, Stompin at the Savoy said:

Now I get it: calling somebody who was a professional musician "not a good guitarist" is not slagging them.  Moreover, suggesting the reason she was not a good guitarist because of drug use - not trashing her!  Pointing out that she played "wrong notes" there, there and there is also just not slagging her!  I'm sorry, if all that is not slagging her, what is?  What would it take to slag her? And of course if you actually listen to her, she is actually a pretty great player.  She was gifted; IMO Lowe is not in her league.

Hey, you ran off a prolific contributor.

This means only one thing ....

Would you like to be a moderator?

[rostasi]

It's important to know the definition of "slag"
and I don't see that simply expressing an opinion
that someone is not good at what they do fits that definition at all.

Edited March 20 by rostasi

[Stompin at the Savoy]

13 minutes ago, JSngry said:

Hey, you ran off a prolific contributor.

This means only one thing ....

Would you like to be a moderator?

I am no great shakes as a guitarist but having played since '68 I can recognize when somebody has paid some dues.  I think Lowe is his own worst enemy and wrong about Remmler as well as unkind to a person who can't reply but I will stop posting here if that's what it takes for him to return.  

[Rabshakeh]

50 minutes ago, Stompin at the Savoy said:

I am no great shakes as a guitarist but having played since '68 I can recognize when somebody has paid some dues.  I think Lowe is his own worst enemy and wrong about Remmler as well as unkind to a person who can't reply but I will stop posting here if that's what it takes for him to return.  

I believe JS' comment may have been a self-reflexive joke.

Edited March 20 by Rabshakeh

[clifford_thornton]

Certainly I've disagreed with others on whether or not someone is a good musician... that's hardly something to get bent out of shape about. For example, I thought certain board members were (are) insane for not appreciating Jemeel Moondoc's brilliance, but it's not like I'm going to change anybody's mind at this point, nor they me.

Remler's Concord studio dates leave me a bit underwhelmed but I did like hearing the live stuff that Resonance put out. It's not her per se, but the mastering and the polished nature of the groups' sound.

[JSngry]

16 minutes ago, Rabshakeh said:

I believe JS' comment may have been a self-reflexive joke.

See, this guy gets it!

Would YOU like to be a moderator? 🎄🎄🎄

[Kevin Bresnahan]

22 hours ago, clifford_thornton said:

The above is from Allen (hopefully it can just stand as it is).

I missed the entire Remler thing.

If Allen wants back in, he needs to contact Jim A.

As I understand it, he did ask to have all of his posts removed when he decided to leave and since we just had someone delete their entire post history a few weeks before, Jim A decided he didn't want that again so he blocked Allen.

Since Jim A has since decided that he wanted to avoid anyone from deleting their entire posting history so he turned off that ability. I see no reason that he couldn't turn Allen's account back on if Allen requests it.

And again, Allen asked Jim A to delete his account, so this is not the result of any moderation event.

[John L]

Deleting all the posts of one person is problematic for various reasons.  It can make comments of others in the thread look stupid or inappropriate.  If something is to be deleted, in some cases it would make sense to delete entire threads instead of the posts of one person. 

 

 

 

 

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Edited March 21 by John L