JSngry Posted Wednesday at 12:34 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 12:34 AM I asked this question back on Board Krypton and have forgotten the answers. What recordings have existed for these, the truly last recordings of Coleman Hawkins? Quote
Ken Dryden Posted Wednesday at 12:46 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 12:46 AM Wasn’t Hawk in pretty bad health by the time Sirius was recorded? Quote
jazztrain Posted Wednesday at 01:22 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 01:22 AM I like Sirius a lot. Granted, he plays with a certain sense of world weariness, but he has a lot to say. Here is some later (post-Sirius) Hawk courtesy of Lord: Coleman Hawkins Vs. Oscar Peterson & Don Byas Vs. Teddy Wilson : Coleman Hawkins (ts) Oscar Peterson (p) Sam Jones (b) Bobby Durham (d) Live "Falkonercentret", Copenhagen, Denmark, October 22, 1967 (Medley Moon (It)MLP018-1, MCD018-2 [CD] Moonglow - - Sweet Georgia Brown - - September song - - Stuffy - - Note: The rest of Moon (It)MLP018-1, MCD018-2 [CD] by Don Byas, October 23, 1967. [H3282.10]Add Coleman Hawkins Quintet : Coleman Hawkins (ts) Lou Bennett (org) Paul Weeden (g) Hugo Rasmussen (b) William Schiopffe (d) Copenhagen, Denmark, February 12, 1968 All the things you are Tempo di Jazz (It)CDIJ707 [CD] Lover come back to me - [H3283]Add Master Of Jazz Vol 12 : Coleman Hawkins (ts) Kenny Drew (p) Niels-Henning Orsted Pedersen (b) Albert "Tootie" Heath (d) Copenhagen, Denmark, February 13, 1968 Lover man Storyville (Dan)SLP4112, STCD4112 [CD] Sweet Georgia Brown - - Note: Both above titles also on Tempo di Jazz (It)CDIJ707 [CD]. [H3284]Add Coleman Hawkins Quartet : Coleman Hawkins (ts) Lou Bennett (org) Paul Weeden (g) Albert "Tootie" Heath (d) Live, Copenhagen, Denmark, February 14, 1968 Moonglow Tempo di Jazz (It)CDIJ707 [CD] Just you, just me - Quote
JSngry Posted Wednesday at 01:32 AM Author Report Posted Wednesday at 01:32 AM 9 minutes ago, jazztrain said: I like Sirius a lot. Granted, he plays with a certain sense of world weariness, but he has a lot to say. Here is some later (post-Sirius) Hawk courtesy of Lord: Coleman Hawkins Vs. Oscar Peterson & Don Byas Vs. Teddy Wilson : Coleman Hawkins (ts) Oscar Peterson (p) Sam Jones (b) Bobby Durham (d) Live "Falkonercentret", Copenhagen, Denmark, October 22, 1967 (Medley Moon (It)MLP018-1, MCD018-2 [CD] Moonglow - - Sweet Georgia Brown - - September song - - Stuffy - - Note: The rest of Moon (It)MLP018-1, MCD018-2 [CD] by Don Byas, October 23, 1967. [H3282.10]Add Coleman Hawkins Quintet : Coleman Hawkins (ts) Lou Bennett (org) Paul Weeden (g) Hugo Rasmussen (b) William Schiopffe (d) Copenhagen, Denmark, February 12, 1968 All the things you are Tempo di Jazz (It)CDIJ707 [CD] Lover come back to me - [H3283]Add Master Of Jazz Vol 12 : Coleman Hawkins (ts) Kenny Drew (p) Niels-Henning Orsted Pedersen (b) Albert "Tootie" Heath (d) Copenhagen, Denmark, February 13, 1968 Lover man Storyville (Dan)SLP4112, STCD4112 [CD] Sweet Georgia Brown - - Note: Both above titles also on Tempo di Jazz (It)CDIJ707 [CD]. [H3284]Add Coleman Hawkins Quartet : Coleman Hawkins (ts) Lou Bennett (org) Paul Weeden (g) Albert "Tootie" Heath (d) Live, Copenhagen, Denmark, February 14, 1968 Moonglow Tempo di Jazz (It)CDIJ707 [CD] Just you, just me - Thanks! Is there also a thing on Pablo? 46 minutes ago, Ken Dryden said: Wasn’t Hawk in pretty bad health by the time Sirius was recorded? He was in bad shape for that date, but this 1967 clip shows him in better shape: Call me morbid, but I find it...necessary to hear the "last gasps" of greatness. That's where the story ends. And if it ain't pretty, so be it. Quote
l p Posted Wednesday at 06:58 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 06:58 AM this hawkins last known live is from the chicago tv show 'just jazz' wttw 4-19-69. hawkins at 19min Quote
Caravan Posted Wednesday at 10:13 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 10:13 AM That clip from "JATP 1967" is in fact from Oct 1966. Saw Hawk that year with that package. Others were Dizzy, Clark Terry, Zoot Sims, James Moody, Teddy Wilson, Bob Cranshaw, Louie Bellson. That same year I saw Ayler and had seen Coltrane the year before. Memories. Quote
Stereojack Posted Wednesday at 01:53 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 01:53 PM I agree with jazztrain about Sirius. It has taken a bad rap. Obviously Granz did not consider it worthy of release until a decade after it was recorded, but I'm happy to have it. I saw Hawkins at Lennie's around 1966, and while it was clear that age had begun to take its toll, his playing was still reasonably strong and authoratative. I've heard some of the recordings jazztrain cites (on the Storyville he sounds sad). The video snippet from 1969 is hearbreaking. Quote
Caravan Posted Wednesday at 09:09 PM Report Posted Wednesday at 09:09 PM 10 hours ago, Caravan said: That clip from "JATP 1967" is in fact from Oct 1966. Saw Hawk that year with that package. Others were Dizzy, Clark Terry, Zoot Sims, James Moody, Teddy Wilson, Bob Cranshaw, Louie Bellson. That same year I saw Ayler and had seen Coltrane the year before. Memories. Ben Webster and Don Byas welcoming the JATP crew at Amsterdam airport, November 19, 1966 (Ben next to Dizzy, Don next to Hawk). Quote
Gheorghe Posted Friday at 06:28 AM Report Posted Friday at 06:28 AM On 12/18/2024 at 10:09 PM, Caravan said: Ben Webster and Don Byas welcoming the JATP crew at Amsterdam airport, November 19, 1966 (Ben next to Dizzy, Don next to Hawk). So hip Don Byas here. He was Mr Hip. I saw a short documentary of him with a fishing rod fishing in Amsterdam. I would have liked to spend a day with him, fishing.... Great Photo. I don´t have Sirius, but I have another very late Hawk album, something live with the Tommy Flanagan trio, still very fine sound, but you feel that he had slowed down a bit. But "Talk of the Town" is wonderful, The best Hawk I heard is also relativly late, it is "Hawk in Germany" but it is wonderful ! I had not known about Sirius, and did not know that Hawk still was active in the mid sixties. I have a strange "Charlie Parker Memorial Concert" album, that has not much to do with Parker. It is mostly Billy Taylor and on two tracks I think Hawk and Eldrige play.....I also thought "wow, Hawkins so late ? " Quote
Caravan Posted Friday at 09:01 AM Report Posted Friday at 09:01 AM On 12/18/2024 at 9:09 PM, Caravan said: Ben Webster and Don Byas welcoming the JATP crew at Amsterdam airport, November 19, 1966 (Ben next to Dizzy, Don next to Hawk). Add Benny Carter (holding newspaper) and blues guitarist T Bone Walker (the spectacled gentleman on the right) to the personal Quote
Peter Friedman Posted Friday at 08:42 PM Report Posted Friday at 08:42 PM I remember long ago watching Hawkins on a PBS station filmed in Chicago not long before he died. He was in very bad condition, and it was somewhat painful to watch him struggling so much. I have little memory of who was in the group, though am guessing Roy Eldridge and Barry Harris. Quote
John Tapscott Posted 6 hours ago Report Posted 6 hours ago Hawkins is in fine form on the 4 tracks on which he plays; actually seems to inspire the Peterson Trio. Quote
mjzee Posted 5 hours ago Report Posted 5 hours ago On 12/18/2024 at 3:09 PM, Caravan said: Ben Webster and Don Byas welcoming the JATP crew at Amsterdam airport, November 19, 1966 (Ben next to Dizzy, Don next to Hawk). I wonder if there are any recordings from this tour. I see Bob Cranshaw with his bass. Quote
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