Post-Sirius Hawk Live Recordings???

[JSngry]

I asked this question back on Board Krypton and have forgotten the answers.

What recordings have existed for these, the truly last recordings of Coleman Hawkins?

[Ken Dryden]

Wasn’t Hawk in pretty bad health by the time Sirius was recorded?

[jazztrain]

I like Sirius a lot.  Granted, he plays with a certain sense of world weariness, but he has a lot to say.

Here is some later (post-Sirius) Hawk courtesy of Lord:

 

Coleman Hawkins Vs. Oscar Peterson & Don Byas Vs. Teddy Wilson : Coleman Hawkins (ts) Oscar Peterson (p) Sam Jones (b) Bobby Durham (d)

Live "Falkonercentret", Copenhagen, Denmark, October 22, 1967

	(Medley	Moon (It)MLP018-1, MCD018-2 [CD]
	Moonglow	-              -
	Sweet Georgia Brown	-              -
	September song	-              -
	Stuffy	-              -

Note:

The rest of Moon (It)MLP018-1, MCD018-2 [CD] by Don Byas, October 23, 1967.

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Coleman Hawkins Quintet : Coleman Hawkins (ts) Lou Bennett (org) Paul Weeden (g) Hugo Rasmussen (b) William Schiopffe (d)

Copenhagen, Denmark, February 12, 1968

	All the things you are	Tempo di Jazz (It)CDIJ707 [CD]
	Lover come back to me	-

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Master Of Jazz Vol 12 : Coleman Hawkins (ts) Kenny Drew (p) Niels-Henning Orsted Pedersen (b) Albert "Tootie" Heath (d)

Copenhagen, Denmark, February 13, 1968

	Lover man	Storyville (Dan)SLP4112, STCD4112 [CD]
	Sweet Georgia Brown	-              -

Note:

Both above titles also on Tempo di Jazz (It)CDIJ707 [CD].

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Coleman Hawkins Quartet : Coleman Hawkins (ts) Lou Bennett (org) Paul Weeden (g) Albert "Tootie" Heath (d)

Live, Copenhagen, Denmark, February 14, 1968

	Moonglow	Tempo di Jazz (It)CDIJ707 [CD]
	Just you, just me	-

[JSngry]

9 minutes ago, jazztrain said:

I like Sirius a lot.  Granted, he plays with a certain sense of world weariness, but he has a lot to say.

Here is some later (post-Sirius) Hawk courtesy of Lord:

 

 

Coleman Hawkins Vs. Oscar Peterson & Don Byas Vs. Teddy Wilson : Coleman Hawkins (ts) Oscar Peterson (p) Sam Jones (b) Bobby Durham (d)

Live "Falkonercentret", Copenhagen, Denmark, October 22, 1967

	(Medley	Moon (It)MLP018-1, MCD018-2 [CD]
	Moonglow	-              -
	Sweet Georgia Brown	-              -
	September song	-              -
	Stuffy	-              -

Note:

The rest of Moon (It)MLP018-1, MCD018-2 [CD] by Don Byas, October 23, 1967.

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Coleman Hawkins Quintet : Coleman Hawkins (ts) Lou Bennett (org) Paul Weeden (g) Hugo Rasmussen (b) William Schiopffe (d)

Copenhagen, Denmark, February 12, 1968

	All the things you are	Tempo di Jazz (It)CDIJ707 [CD]
	Lover come back to me	-

[H3283]Add

Master Of Jazz Vol 12 : Coleman Hawkins (ts) Kenny Drew (p) Niels-Henning Orsted Pedersen (b) Albert "Tootie" Heath (d)

Copenhagen, Denmark, February 13, 1968

	Lover man	Storyville (Dan)SLP4112, STCD4112 [CD]
	Sweet Georgia Brown	-              -

Note:

Both above titles also on Tempo di Jazz (It)CDIJ707 [CD].

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Coleman Hawkins Quartet : Coleman Hawkins (ts) Lou Bennett (org) Paul Weeden (g) Albert "Tootie" Heath (d)

Live, Copenhagen, Denmark, February 14, 1968

	Moonglow	Tempo di Jazz (It)CDIJ707 [CD]
	Just you, just me	-

Thanks! Is there also a thing on Pablo?

46 minutes ago, Ken Dryden said:

Wasn’t Hawk in pretty bad health by the time Sirius was recorded?

He was in bad shape for that date, but this 1967 clip shows him in better shape:

 

Call me morbid, but I find it...necessary to hear the "last gasps" of greatness. That's where the story ends.

And if it ain't pretty, so be it.

[l p]

 

this hawkins last known live is from the chicago tv show 'just jazz' wttw 4-19-69.

hawkins at 19min

 

[Caravan]

That clip from "JATP 1967" is in fact from Oct 1966. Saw Hawk that year with that package. Others were Dizzy, Clark Terry, Zoot Sims, James Moody, Teddy Wilson, Bob Cranshaw, Louie Bellson. That same year I saw Ayler and had seen Coltrane the year before. Memories.

[Stereojack]

I agree with jazztrain about Sirius. It has taken a bad rap. Obviously Granz did not consider it worthy of release until a decade after it was recorded, but I'm happy to have it. I saw Hawkins at Lennie's around 1966, and while it was clear that age had begun to take its toll, his playing was still reasonably strong and authoratative. I've heard some of the recordings jazztrain cites (on the Storyville he sounds sad).  The video snippet from 1969 is hearbreaking. 

[Caravan]

10 hours ago, Caravan said:

That clip from "JATP 1967" is in fact from Oct 1966. Saw Hawk that year with that package. Others were Dizzy, Clark Terry, Zoot Sims, James Moody, Teddy Wilson, Bob Cranshaw, Louie Bellson. That same year I saw Ayler and had seen Coltrane the year before. Memories.

Ben Webster and Don Byas welcoming the JATP crew at Amsterdam airport, November 19, 1966 (Ben next to Dizzy, Don next to Hawk).

[Gheorghe]

On 12/18/2024 at 10:09 PM, Caravan said:

Ben Webster and Don Byas welcoming the JATP crew at Amsterdam airport, November 19, 1966 (Ben next to Dizzy, Don next to Hawk).

So hip Don Byas here. He was Mr Hip. I saw a short documentary of him with a fishing rod fishing in Amsterdam. I would have liked to spend a day with him, fishing....

Great Photo. 

I don´t have Sirius, but I have another very late Hawk album, something live with the Tommy Flanagan trio, still very fine sound, but you feel that he had slowed down a bit. But "Talk of the Town" is wonderful, 
 

The best Hawk I heard is also relativly late, it is "Hawk in Germany" but it is wonderful ! 

I had not known about Sirius, and did not know that Hawk still was active in the mid sixties. 

I have a strange "Charlie Parker Memorial Concert" album, that has not much to do with Parker. It is mostly Billy Taylor and on two tracks I think Hawk and Eldrige play.....I also thought "wow, Hawkins so late ? " 

[Caravan]

On 12/18/2024 at 9:09 PM, Caravan said:

Ben Webster and Don Byas welcoming the JATP crew at Amsterdam airport, November 19, 1966 (Ben next to Dizzy, Don next to Hawk).

Add Benny Carter (holding newspaper) and blues guitarist T Bone Walker (the spectacled gentleman on the right) to the personal

[Peter Friedman]

I remember long ago watching Hawkins on a PBS station filmed in Chicago not long before he died. He was in very bad condition, and it was somewhat painful to watch him struggling so much. I have little memory of who was in the group, though am guessing Roy Eldridge and Barry Harris.

[John Tapscott]

Hawkins is in fine form on the 4 tracks on which he plays; actually seems to inspire the Peterson Trio.  

[JSngry]

What label is that on?

[mjzee]

On 12/18/2024 at 3:09 PM, Caravan said:

Ben Webster and Don Byas welcoming the JATP crew at Amsterdam airport, November 19, 1966 (Ben next to Dizzy, Don next to Hawk).

I wonder if there are any recordings from this tour.  I see Bob Cranshaw with his bass.

[Peter Friedman]

The closest I could find were these two. Though not the exact same line up of musicians as in the photo.

JATP In London 1966 - Pablo

JATP All Stars - Pablo

[John Tapscott]

21 hours ago, JSngry said:

What label is that on?

Gambit Records. 

[JSngry]

Ah! Thanks!

[Mark Stryker]

On 12/18/2024 at 1:58 AM, l p said:

 

this hawkins last known live is from the chicago tv show 'just jazz' wttw 4-19-69.

hawkins at 19min

 

HOLY SHIT!! I have been searching for years for this Just Jazz broadcast from Chicago because Barry Harris is on piano. While this is just a short clip, it is the only remnant I've ever found. I was in touch with Dan Morgenstern (who coproduced the series), but he was not able to turn up a copy before he died -- but I hold out hope that a copy of the full program exists somewhere. The late Harriet Rosenfeld-Choice, a Chicago journalism legend who covered jazz at the Chicago Tribune before our friend Larry Kart and who was close to all involved, also tried to help me track down a copy of a tape to no avail.

Thanks for posting. I would have never known it was buried deep inside this survey program without seeing it here. 

Edited December 27, 2024 by Mark Stryker

[Dan Gould]

14 minutes ago, Mark Stryker said:

HOLY SHIT!! I have been searching for years for this Just Jazz broadcast from Chicago because Barry Harris is on piano. While this is just a short clip, it is the only remnant I've ever found. I was in touch with Dan Morgenstern (who coproduced the series), but he was not able to turn up a copy before he died -- but I hold out hope that a copy of the full program exists somewhere. The late Harriet Rosenfeld-Choice, a Chicago journalism legend who covered jazz at the Chicago Tribune before our friend Larry Kart and who was close to all involved, also tried to help me track down a copy of a tape to no avail.

Thanks for posting. I would have never known it was buried deep inside this survey program without seeing it here. 

 

You hoping for video Mark or just hear the whole performance of Yesterdays?

I have the latter.

[Mark Stryker]

1 hour ago, Dan Gould said:

 

You hoping for video Mark or just hear the whole performance of Yesterdays?

I have the latter.

My dream is the whole video of the show or, at the least, a complete tune on video. But absent that, I'd still love to hear audio of all or part of it. 
 

You have this?

I'd be in your debt ...

 

Thanks

[Dan Gould]

1 hour ago, Mark Stryker said:

My dream is the whole video of the show or, at the least, a complete tune on video. But absent that, I'd still love to hear audio of all or part of it. 
 

You have this?

I'd be in your debt ...

 

Thanks

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