Blow, Brother Konitz, BLOW!

[Quasimado]

  On 5/21/2021 at 8:08 PM, sgcim said:

I can never get enough Lee in the 50s, but he said to a friend of mine that the Kenton tour messed him up, and that he was never the same since.

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There is so much with the Kenton band that is superb, as Larry has mentioned; and then there is the great playing on the Storyvilles etc. The hard- heads around Tristano give/gave 1955 as the cut-off date. After that his playing started to change, gradually at first - by 1960 it is obvious. This is not to say that, with the right band, there were not flashes of the "old" Lee, but they gradually became fewer and fewer. Just what caused that is open to question ...

[JSngry]

In jazz, change is supposed to come from other people, not from within yourself. Jazz is kinda fucked up like that, as are many other things.

[Guy Berger]

  On 5/22/2021 at 2:17 AM, Quasimado said:

There is so much with the Kenton band that is superb, as Larry has mentioned; and then there is the great playing on the Storyvilles etc. The hard- heads around Tristano give/gave 1955 as the cut-off date. After that his playing started to change, gradually at first - by 1960 it is obvious. This is not to say that, with the right band, there were not flashes of the "old" Lee, but they gradually became fewer and fewer. Just what caused that is open to question ...

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What happened is the range of musical possibilities opened up, and Konitz took wonderful advantage of them!

[russes01]

A link to what I think is a home recording before joining Thornhill...one of several acetates at home. Probably need to request access.  Lloyd Lifton sextet with Lee. 
 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1OxaVsV5OdMFSRf7klMk4pB2Pym-q7T7n/view?usp=drivesdk

[Rabshakeh]

  On 5/18/2021 at 5:38 PM, mhatta said:

Worthwhile Konitz is little known, but I think it is really worthwhile.  My favorite Lee.

 

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This is a nice one. I'm not sure how I missed it first time around.

[jazzcorner]

 

 

[Rabshakeh]

  On 6/25/2021 at 6:06 PM, jazzcorner said:

 

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What's the Konitz connection? I'm intrigued.

[jazzcorner]

  On 6/25/2021 at 6:58 PM, Rabshakeh said:

What's the Konitz connection? I'm intrigued.

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Komeda  is a great euopean altosaxophonist

Edited June 26, 2021 by jazzcorner

[mjazzg]

  On 6/26/2021 at 4:38 AM, jazzcorner said:

Komeda  is a great euopean altosaxophonist

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I thought Komeda was a pianist. Zbigniew Namyslowski is the alto sax player on 'Astigmatic' surely? 

[jazzcorner]

  On 6/26/2021 at 8:07 AM, mjazzg said:

I thought Komeda was a pianist. Zbigniew Namyslowski is the alto sax player on 'Astigmatic' surely? 

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You  are correct.

 My fault. I had Namyslowski  in my thoughts .

 

[Rabshakeh]

Interested I views on the nonet albums and their respective merits. 

I had some good fun with Yes Yes, Nonet yesterday evening, although at times it is like listening to a piano trio with a rotating cast of saxophones sitting in.