Rooster_Ties Posted October 28 Report Share Posted October 28 (edited) I’ve never owned the “Legacy Edition” 2CD version of KOB, and haven’t even thought about it in a decade or more (if I ever even thought of it at all). But for no particular reason I looked it up online today, to remind myself what all was on the 2nd CD (because I couldn’t for the life of me remember, and I thought it was all live stuff) — but come to find out that most of it is all studio stuff from this May 26, 1958 session… https://www.plosin.com/milesahead/Sessions.aspx?s=580526 So how I’m trying to remember where all I might have first had these tracks back in the 90’s (before the Complete Miles & Trane a Columbia box, which I do have, but it’s buried in a box under several other boxes of CD’s at the moment). Some of the ‘hype’ for this “Legacy” set says it brings together all the songs from that May 26th session “for the first time!!” — the only session besides KOB to feature all those same musicians. Peter Losin’s wonderful site does list all the various releases (by catalog number) for each of those tracks… but I’m trying to wrap my head around where all most or all of them would have been most commonly found? (If you click on the plosin url for that session above, there’s a mountain of different catalog numbers for every track, none of which are linked so you can click on them and see what they actually are). I imagine I probably had most (even all?) of this session quite early in my collecting — but my mind is drawing a complete blank as to what releases they might have been most readily available on BEFORE the release of the Complete Miles & Trane Columbia box. I’m seeing “Love For Sale” was on the Circle in the Round 2LP comp — but to my surprise, none of it is on the similar Directions 2LP comp. Maybe I did have some or all of them, but if I did, I sure can’t remember where any more. (The 90’s seems like eons and eons ago, I’m afraid!) Edited October 29 by Rooster_Ties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 Jazz Track If you could find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted October 29 Author Report Share Posted October 29 29 minutes ago, JSngry said: Jazz Track If you could find it. Cover doesn’t ring any bells, so maybe not that one. And now I’m suddenly wondering if I ever had as much of this session pre-Miles/Trane box, as I thought I did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 '58 Miles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 It was elusive on these shores after the initial issue... This would sometimes show up in cutout bins: Here we go. I knew there was something else. https://www.discogs.com/master/198979-Miles-Davis-Basic-Miles-The-Classic-Performances-Of-Miles-Davis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 IIRC Love for Sale wasn't on Jazztrack. It first appeared on Circle in the round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 And it was reissued on "1958 Miles" (US 1974, Japan 1979 et al) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 Hard to understand why Columbia "hid" those cuts for so long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 3 hours ago, jazzbo said: And it was reissued on "1958 Miles" (US 1974, Japan 1979 et al) I don't recall a 1974 US issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 (edited) I can't speak towards your memory. I don't remember one either other than some appearances of tracks a bit before on comps. That 1974 date is clearly stated in wikipedia. May be wrong. It may be referring to a Japanese release as well, as it notes CBS/Sony, but does reference Teo as producer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_Miles Edited October 29 by jazzbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 Mildly off topic, but why did Jazz Track go out of print, while the vast majority of Miles' Columbia catalog remained readily available for decades? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 38 minutes ago, jazzbo said: I can't speak towards your memory. I don't remember one either other than some appearances of tracks a bit before on comps. That 1974 date is clearly stated in wikipedia. May be wrong. It may be referring to a Japanese release as well, as it notes CBS/Sony, but does reference Teo as producer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_Miles The 1973 Basic Miles LP would be the US source for what of those tracks were reissued. 1 minute ago, Teasing the Korean said: Mildly off topic, but why did Jazz Track go out of print, while the vast majority of Miles' Columbia catalog remained readily available for decades? Maybe/Probably something to do with the soundtrack rights? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 2 minutes ago, JSngry said: Maybe/Probably something to do with the soundtrack rights? That would make sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted October 29 Author Report Share Posted October 29 12 hours ago, mjzee said: '58 Miles Ok, I definitely had (or maybe made a cassette dub) of that 1991 reissue of ‘58 Miles (I totally remember that cover now). I’m sure that’s the answer as to where I got/had those tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 1 hour ago, JSngry said: The 1973 Basic Miles LP would be the US source for what of those tracks were reissued. Maybe/Probably something to do with the soundtrack rights? The sound track (with many extra takes) became available on a Fontana cd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 The Miles catalog was somewhat neglected by Columbia for a good part of the '70's. Kind Of Blue was a "Nice Price" LP, Milestones was only available in rechanneled stereo, the Blackhawk LPs were only available on their super-budget imprint (so budget that they didn't use inner sleeves), etc. It was only when Miles was on his 4-year "sabbatical" and Columbia needed product to release that they started reexamining his catalog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 "Jazz Track" soundtrack is not owned by Sony, but Universal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Friedman Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 (edited) I believe everything discussed here is on this box set. Miles Davis & John Coltrane - The Complete Columbia Recordings 1955-1961 Edited October 29 by Peter Friedman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted October 29 Report Share Posted October 29 All but the soundtrack, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted October 30 Author Report Share Posted October 30 13 hours ago, JSngry said: Hard to understand why Columbia "hid" those cuts for so long Yeah, definitely my thought too. How Columbia never came up with even a halfway prominent release of it for several decades is sort of hard to believe — not thinking of the strength of the session (opinions probably vary) — but because of who was on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 30 Report Share Posted October 30 Maybe they were too busy with new music? Miles was still active and vital. That Basic Miles was a good enough idea, but sabotaged by the inclusion of stuff that was still readily available. Take those out and the then-known Jazz Track cuts fit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romualdo Posted October 30 Report Share Posted October 30 (edited) Miles Davis Sextet : Miles Davis (tp) Cannonball Adderley (as) John Coltrane (ts) Bill Evans (p) Paul Chambers (b) Jimmy Cobb (d) New York, May 26, 1958 CO61165-3 On Green Dolphin Street Col 4-33059, C32025, CL1268, PG33402, CBS (F)S64111, S63417, S66310, S21070, (Du)S65343, Fontana (E)TFE17320, (Eu)662042TR, (F)467218TE, CBS/Sony SONP50201, Col CK47835 [CD], Mosaic MQ9-191, Jazzbeat (Sp)524 [CD], Columbia 88697-33552-2, 88697-47627-2 [CD], Istituto Geografico De Agostini (It)MJ1040-1 [CD], Poll Winners (Eu)PWR27208 [CD], Phoenix Records (Sp)131559 [CD], Essential Jazz Classics (Sp)EJC55594 [CD], Omnia Collected Works (Sp)348261 [CD], One Records (Eu)59807 [CD], State of Art 81213 [CD], Green Corner 100896 [CD], American Jazz Classics (Sp)90259 [CD] CO61166-1 Fran-dance (*) Mosaic MQ9-191, Columbia 88697-33552-2, 88697-47627-2 [CD] CO61166-2 Fran-dance Col CL1268, C5X45000, CBS (F)S21070, S63417, Fontana (Eu)6620942TR, (F)467218TE, CBS/Sony SONP50201, SOPB55028, Gj09, Col CK47835 [CD], Mosaic MQ9-191, Jazzbeat (Sp)524 [CD], Columbia 88697-33552-2, 88697-47627-2 [CD], Poll Winners (Eu)PWR27208 [CD], Phoenix Records (Sp)131559 [CD], Essential Jazz Classics (Sp)EJC55594 [CD], Omnia Collected Works (Sp)348261 [CD], One Records (Eu)59807 [CD], State of Art 81213 [CD], Green Corner 100896 [CD], American Jazz Classics (Sp)90259 [CD] CO61167-1 Stella by starlight (incomplete) (ca out) (unissued) CO61167-1 Stella by starlight (ca out) - CO61167-1 Stella by starlight (ca out) - CO61167-2 Stella by starlight (ca out) - CO61167-2 Stella by starlight (ca out) - CO61167-3 Stella by starlight (false start)(ca out) - CO61167-3 Stella by starlight (ca out) Col CL1268, C32025, PG33402, CBS (F)S21070, S63417, (Du)S65343, Fontana (Eu)662042TR, (F)467218TE, CBS/Sony (Jap)SONP50201, SOPB55028, I Giganti del Jazz (It)GJ09, Mosaic MQ9-191, Jazzbeat (Sp)524 [CD], Columbia 88697-33552-2, 88697-47627-2 [CD], Poll Winners (Eu)PWR27208 [CD], Jackpot (Sp)48727 [CD], Phoenix Records (Sp)131559 [CD], Essential Jazz Classics (Sp)EJC55594 [CD], Disconforme (Sp)CDX7723 [CD], Omnia Collected Works (Sp)348261 [CD], One Records (Eu)59807 [CD], El Records (E)ACME329BOX [CD], State of Art 81213 [CD], Green Corner 100896 [CD], Columbia/Legacy CK65853 [CD], American Jazz Classics (Sp)90259 [CD] CO61167-4 Stella by starlight (incomplete) (ca out) (unissued) CO61167-5 Stella by starlight (false start)(ca out) - CO61167-5 Stella by starlight (incomplete) (ca out) - CO61167-6 Stella by starlight (ca out) - CO61167-7 Stella by starlight (ca out) (*) Col CK47835 [CD] CO61168-1 Love for sale Col PG33402, JP13811, KC236278, C5X45000, CBS (Du)S65343, (E)S88151, 22132, Col C2K46862 [CD], CK47835 [CD], Mosaic MQ9-191, Jazzbeat (Sp)524 [CD], Columbia 88697-33552-2, 88697-47627-2 [CD], Phoenix Records (Sp)131559 [CD], Essential Jazz Classics (Sp)EJC55594 [CD], Omnia Collected Works (Sp)348261 [CD], Columbia 88697524922 [CD], One Records (Eu)59807 [CD], State of Art 81213 [CD], Green Corner 100896 [CD] Note: The issued version of "Stella by starlight" is based on take 7 using the first up solo from take 3 on all issues except Columbia CK47835 [CD], which has the only complete version of take 7 as shown above. Columbia 88697-33552-2 titled "Kind of Blue 50th Anniversary Collectors Edition"; this is a 2 LP set. Columbia 88697-47627-2 [CD] titled "Kind of Blue". Poll Winners (Eu)PWR27208 [CD] titled "Kind of Blue". American Jazz Classics (Sp)90259 [CD] titled "Miles Davis - Kind Of Blue". All issued titles, except (*), also on CBS/Sony SOPM140, 20AP-1401, Columbia/Legacy 88697-52492-2 [CD]. All issued titles, except (*), also on Essential Jazz Classics (Sp)EJC11417 [CD] titled "More Miles". All issued titles, except (*), also on Poll Winners (Sp)PWR27385 [CD]. Some sources incorrectly show Philly Joe Jones on drums. This was Jimmy Cobb's first recording with Davis. Col CK47835 [CD] = 467918 [CD] titled "'58 Sessions"; see September 9, 1958 for the rest of these CDs. All issued titles also on Columbia/Legacy C6K65833 [CD]. NOTE: CL 1268 = Jazz Track (3 tracks on side B of LP) Edited October 30 by romualdo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted October 31 Report Share Posted October 31 This is the only studio session made by Miles when Bill Evans was still an actual member of the band. For Kind of Blue, Miles called Evans back just for the recording session. There are the live dates with Evans in the band as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted November 1 Report Share Posted November 1 This is a fantastic session. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted November 3 Report Share Posted November 3 (edited) Just re-listened to these four. Collectively, they clock in at 32 minutes, and can be split between two roughly even sides. 32 minutes, while slightly short for a jazz LP, is not unheard of for LP releases. It would have made a good album as it is. Edited November 4 by Teasing the Korean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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