Miles Davis — May 26, 1958 session (pre-KOB, with the KOB line-up)

[Rooster_Ties]

I’ve never owned the “Legacy Edition” 2CD version of KOB, and haven’t even thought about it in a decade or more (if I ever even thought of it at all).

But for no particular reason I looked it up online today, to remind myself what all was on the 2nd CD (because I couldn’t for the life of me remember, and I thought it was all live stuff) — but come to find out that most of it is all studio stuff from this May 26, 1958 session…

https://www.plosin.com/milesahead/Sessions.aspx?s=580526

So how I’m trying to remember where all I might have first had these tracks back in the 90’s (before the Complete Miles & Trane a Columbia box, which I do have, but it’s buried in a box under several other boxes of CD’s at the moment).

Some of the ‘hype’ for this “Legacy” set says it brings together all the songs from that May 26th session “for the first time!!” — the only session besides KOB to feature all those same musicians.

Peter Losin’s wonderful site does list all the various releases (by catalog number) for each of those tracks… but I’m trying to wrap my head around where all most or all of them would have been most commonly found?

(If you click on the plosin url for that session above, there’s a mountain of different catalog numbers for every track, none of which are linked so you can click on them and see what they actually are).

I imagine I probably had most (even all?) of this session quite early in my collecting — but my mind is drawing a complete blank as to what releases they might have been most readily available on BEFORE the release of the Complete Miles & Trane Columbia box.

I’m seeing “Love For Sale” was on the Circle in the Round 2LP comp — but to my surprise, none of it is on the similar Directions 2LP comp.

Maybe I did have some or all of them, but if I did, I sure can’t remember where any more.

(The 90’s seems like eons and eons ago, I’m afraid!)

Edited Tuesday at 02:15 PM by Rooster_Ties

[JSngry]

Jazz Track

If you could find it.

[Rooster_Ties]

29 minutes ago, JSngry said:

Jazz Track

If you could find it.

Cover doesn’t ring any bells, so maybe not that one.

And now I’m suddenly wondering if I ever had as much of this session pre-Miles/Trane box, as I thought I did.

[mjzee]

'58 Miles

[JSngry]

It was elusive on these shores after the initial issue...

This would sometimes show up in cutout bins:

Here we go. I knew there was something else.

https://www.discogs.com/master/198979-Miles-Davis-Basic-Miles-The-Classic-Performances-Of-Miles-Davis

[medjuck]

IIRC Love for Sale wasn't on Jazztrack. It first appeared on Circle in the round. 

[jazzbo]

And it was reissued on "1958 Miles" (US 1974, Japan 1979 et al)

[JSngry]

Hard to understand why Columbia "hid" those cuts for so long 

[JSngry]

3 hours ago, jazzbo said:

And it was reissued on "1958 Miles" (US 1974, Japan 1979 et al)

I don't recall a 1974 US issue?

[jazzbo]

I can't speak towards your memory. I don't remember one either other than some appearances of tracks a bit before on comps. That 1974 date is clearly stated in wikipedia. May be wrong. It may be referring to a Japanese release as well, as it notes CBS/Sony, but does reference Teo as producer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_Miles

Edited Tuesday at 01:17 PM by jazzbo

[Teasing the Korean]

Mildly off topic, but why did Jazz Track go out of print, while the vast majority of Miles' Columbia catalog remained readily available for decades?

[JSngry]

38 minutes ago, jazzbo said:

I can't speak towards your memory. I don't remember one either other than some appearances of tracks a bit before on comps. That 1974 date is clearly stated in wikipedia. May be wrong. It may be referring to a Japanese release as well, as it notes CBS/Sony, but does reference Teo as producer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1958_Miles

The 1973 Basic Miles LP would be the US source for what of those tracks were reissued.

1 minute ago, Teasing the Korean said:

Mildly off topic, but why did Jazz Track go out of print, while the vast majority of Miles' Columbia catalog remained readily available for decades?

Maybe/Probably something to do with the soundtrack rights?

[Teasing the Korean]

2 minutes ago, JSngry said:

Maybe/Probably something to do with the soundtrack rights?

That would make sense. 

[Rooster_Ties]

12 hours ago, mjzee said:

'58 Miles

Ok, I definitely had (or maybe made a cassette dub) of that 1991 reissue of ‘58 Miles (I totally remember that cover now).

I’m sure that’s the answer as to where I got/had those tracks.

[medjuck]

1 hour ago, JSngry said:

The 1973 Basic Miles LP would be the US source for what of those tracks were reissued.

Maybe/Probably something to do with the soundtrack rights?

The sound track (with many extra takes) became available on a Fontana cd. 

[mjzee]

The Miles catalog was somewhat neglected by Columbia for a good part of the '70's.  Kind Of Blue was a "Nice Price" LP, Milestones was only available in rechanneled stereo, the Blackhawk LPs were only available on their super-budget imprint (so budget that they didn't use inner sleeves), etc.  It was only when Miles was on his 4-year "sabbatical" and Columbia needed product to release that they started reexamining his catalog.

[jazzbo]

"Jazz Track" soundtrack is not owned by Sony, but Universal.

[Peter Friedman]

I believe everything discussed here is on this box set.

Miles Davis & John Coltrane - The Complete Columbia Recordings 1955-1961

Edited Tuesday at 06:27 PM by Peter Friedman

[jazzbo]

All but the soundtrack, yes.

[Rooster_Ties]

13 hours ago, JSngry said:

Hard to understand why Columbia "hid" those cuts for so long 

Yeah, definitely my thought too.

How Columbia never came up with even a halfway prominent release of it for several decades is sort of hard to believe — not thinking of the strength of the session (opinions probably vary) — but because of who was on it.

[JSngry]

Maybe they were too busy with new music? Miles was still active and vital.

That Basic Miles was a good enough idea, but sabotaged by the inclusion of stuff that was still readily available. Take those out and the then-known Jazz Track cuts fit?

[romualdo]

Miles Davis Sextet : Miles Davis (tp) Cannonball Adderley (as) John Coltrane (ts) Bill Evans (p) Paul Chambers (b) Jimmy Cobb (d)

New York, May 26, 1958

CO61165-3	On Green Dolphin Street	Col 4-33059, C32025, CL1268, PG33402, CBS
		(F)S64111, S63417, S66310, S21070, (Du)S65343,
		Fontana (E)TFE17320, (Eu)662042TR, (F)467218TE,
		CBS/Sony SONP50201, Col CK47835 [CD], Mosaic
		MQ9-191, Jazzbeat (Sp)524 [CD], Columbia
		88697-33552-2, 88697-47627-2 [CD], Istituto
		Geografico De Agostini (It)MJ1040-1 [CD], Poll
		Winners (Eu)PWR27208 [CD], Phoenix Records
		(Sp)131559 [CD], Essential Jazz Classics
		(Sp)EJC55594 [CD], Omnia Collected Works
		(Sp)348261 [CD], One Records (Eu)59807 [CD], State
		of Art 81213 [CD], Green Corner 100896 [CD],
		American Jazz Classics (Sp)90259 [CD]
CO61166-1	Fran-dance (*)	Mosaic MQ9-191, Columbia 88697-33552-2,
		88697-47627-2 [CD]
CO61166-2	Fran-dance	Col CL1268, C5X45000, CBS (F)S21070, S63417,
		Fontana (Eu)6620942TR, (F)467218TE, CBS/Sony
		SONP50201, SOPB55028, Gj09, Col CK47835 [CD],
		Mosaic MQ9-191, Jazzbeat (Sp)524 [CD], Columbia
		88697-33552-2, 88697-47627-2 [CD], Poll Winners
		(Eu)PWR27208 [CD], Phoenix Records (Sp)131559
		[CD], Essential Jazz Classics (Sp)EJC55594 [CD],
		Omnia Collected Works (Sp)348261 [CD], One Records
		(Eu)59807 [CD], State of Art 81213 [CD], Green
		Corner 100896 [CD], American Jazz Classics
		(Sp)90259 [CD]
CO61167-1	Stella by starlight (incomplete) (ca out)	(unissued)
CO61167-1	Stella by starlight (ca out)	-
CO61167-1	Stella by starlight (ca out)	-
CO61167-2	Stella by starlight (ca out)	-
CO61167-2	Stella by starlight (ca out)	-
CO61167-3	Stella by starlight (false start)(ca out)	-
CO61167-3	Stella by starlight (ca out)	Col CL1268, C32025, PG33402, CBS (F)S21070,
		S63417, (Du)S65343, Fontana (Eu)662042TR,
		(F)467218TE, CBS/Sony (Jap)SONP50201, SOPB55028, I
		Giganti del Jazz (It)GJ09, Mosaic MQ9-191,
		Jazzbeat (Sp)524 [CD], Columbia 88697-33552-2,
		88697-47627-2 [CD], Poll Winners (Eu)PWR27208
		[CD], Jackpot (Sp)48727 [CD], Phoenix Records
		(Sp)131559 [CD], Essential Jazz Classics
		(Sp)EJC55594 [CD], Disconforme (Sp)CDX7723 [CD],
		Omnia Collected Works (Sp)348261 [CD], One Records
		(Eu)59807 [CD], El Records (E)ACME329BOX [CD],
		State of Art 81213 [CD], Green Corner 100896 [CD],
		Columbia/Legacy CK65853 [CD], American Jazz
		Classics (Sp)90259 [CD]
CO61167-4	Stella by starlight (incomplete) (ca out)	(unissued)
CO61167-5	Stella by starlight (false start)(ca out)	-
CO61167-5	Stella by starlight (incomplete) (ca out)	-
CO61167-6	Stella by starlight (ca out)	-
CO61167-7	Stella by starlight (ca out) (*)	Col CK47835 [CD]
CO61168-1	Love for sale	Col PG33402, JP13811, KC236278, C5X45000, CBS
		(Du)S65343, (E)S88151, 22132, Col C2K46862 [CD],
		CK47835 [CD], Mosaic MQ9-191, Jazzbeat (Sp)524
		[CD], Columbia 88697-33552-2, 88697-47627-2 [CD],
		Phoenix Records (Sp)131559 [CD], Essential Jazz
		Classics (Sp)EJC55594 [CD], Omnia Collected Works
		(Sp)348261 [CD], Columbia 88697524922 [CD], One
		Records (Eu)59807 [CD], State of Art 81213 [CD],
		Green Corner 100896 [CD]

Note:

The issued version of "Stella by starlight" is based on take 7 using the first up solo from take 3 on all issues except Columbia CK47835 [CD], which has the only complete version of take 7 as shown above. Columbia 88697-33552-2 titled "Kind of Blue 50th Anniversary Collectors Edition"; this is a 2 LP set. Columbia 88697-47627-2 [CD] titled "Kind of Blue". Poll Winners (Eu)PWR27208 [CD] titled "Kind of Blue". American Jazz Classics (Sp)90259 [CD] titled "Miles Davis - Kind Of Blue". All issued titles, except (*), also on CBS/Sony SOPM140, 20AP-1401, Columbia/Legacy 88697-52492-2 [CD]. All issued titles, except (*), also on Essential Jazz Classics (Sp)EJC11417 [CD] titled "More Miles". All issued titles, except (*), also on Poll Winners (Sp)PWR27385 [CD]. Some sources incorrectly show Philly Joe Jones on drums. This was Jimmy Cobb's first recording with Davis. Col CK47835 [CD] = 467918 [CD] titled "'58 Sessions"; see September 9, 1958 for the rest of these CDs. All issued titles also on Columbia/Legacy C6K65833 [CD]. NOTE: CL 1268 = Jazz Track (3 tracks on side B of LP)

 

Edited Wednesday at 11:45 PM by romualdo

[John L]

This is the only studio session made by Miles when Bill Evans was still an actual member of the band.   For Kind of Blue, Miles called Evans back just for the recording session.   There are the live dates with Evans in the band as well.

[Guy Berger]

This is a fantastic session.