In With the In Crowd: Popular Jazz in 1960s Black America

[ghost of miles]

Interesting recent publication—book is arriving today, hoping to read it sometime in the coming weeks:

In With the In Crowd: Popular Jazz in 1960s Black America

Edited 18 hours ago by ghost of miles

[JSngry]

But ..jazz began losing its Black audience in the 1950s!!!!!

[Rooster_Ties]

While I probably won’t rabidly devour this book, but I imagine it’ll be a good read — maybe a darn good one at that.

If the reviews are positive , or if someone here reports back it’s good — I’m in.

[Dan Gould]

Looks like a good companion to 

Jazz With a Beat: Small Group Swing, 1940 – 1960

by member @ListeningToPrestige (Tad Richards) as well as the Soul Jazz book.

I think I am in ... definitely.

[Big Beat Steve]

16 hours ago, Dan Gould said:

Looks like a good companion to 

Jazz With a Beat: Small Group Swing, 1940 – 1960

by member @ListeningToPrestige (Tad Richards) as well as the Soul Jazz book.

I think I am in ... definitely.

A side note:

Thanks for mentioning that "Jazz With A Beat" book!
I had been totally unaware of this. (Cannot recall its release has been discussed here - or did I miss something?) Ordered it at once as it is right up my alley. Glad to see (according to the sales blurb on Amazon) that the author acknolwedges the small-group R&B/Jump Blues acts as part of how Swing evolved after 1945. Good to see the days seem to be over at last when the entire R&B field was dismissed as being unworthy of serious consideration as "jazz" (of the post-WWII variety).

The "In With The In Crowd" book looks interesting too (like you said - as a follow-up to the "Soul Jazz" book, maybe ...). But for now I'll sit and wait to hear from others who have read it - just to get a few more impressions.

BTW, one aspect I wonder whether it will be covered in the "In Crowd" book (or in "Jazz With a Beat"?) are those "Mainstream" jazzmen who did retain a following well into the 60s at least on a local/regional level, such as Buddy Tate and his Celebrity Club orchestra who according to various period sources had a long-running club residency. Style-wise (considering the usual stylistic categories that jazz scribes tended to think in) I'd guess he fell into the "No man's land of jazz" between R&B and Soul Jazz.

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[Rabshakeh]

What is the Soul Jazz book to which people are referring? Is that recommended.

I'd also love a book on the Mainstream Swing side of things. 

Who is the author of this new one? Has he written anything else?

[Niko]

the Soul Jazz book must be Bob Porter's book of the same name... (which I started reading but somehow never finished... so I'll wait with this new book until then)

[Dan Gould]

Soul Jazz by Bob Porter (could not summon his name that is why I wasn't specific) is definitely recommended.