RiRiIII Posted September 20 Report Posted September 20 The legendary Nick Gravenites died on September 18, 2024, at the age of 85. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Gravenites A big loss of a great man. He also had a CD released some months ago. Quote
mikeweil Posted September 20 Report Posted September 20 Oh well. R.I.P. He and Mike Bloomfiled did some important work. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted September 21 Report Posted September 21 (edited) Back in the late '60s he screamed at me in public for "swallowing the bullshit stuff of the AACM". I have this early 45 The band includes Roscoe Mitchell, Elvin Bishop, Mike Bloomfield, Paul Butterfield and Steve McCall Edited September 21 by Chuck Nessa Quote
rostasi Posted September 21 Report Posted September 21 It's got Lester Bowie, Julian Priester, Erwin Helfer, and Scotty Holt as well! Quote
JSngry Posted September 21 Report Posted September 21 54 minutes ago, Chuck Nessa said: Back in the late '60s he screamed at me in public for "swallowing the bullshit stuff of the AACM". Guardians of last year's blues indeed. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted September 21 Report Posted September 21 2 hours ago, JSngry said: Guardians of last year's blues indeed. Upon reflection, it was Mike Bloomfield screaming at me. Quote
RiRiIII Posted September 21 Author Report Posted September 21 (edited) 4 hours ago, Chuck Nessa said: Back in the late '60s he screamed at me in public for "swallowing the bullshit stuff of the AACM". I have this early 45 The band includes Roscoe Mitchell, Elvin Bishop, Mike Bloomfield, Paul Butterfield and Steve McCall 50 minutes ago, Chuck Nessa said: Upon reflection, it was Mike Bloomfield screaming at me. Gravenites had mentioned the following for this 45 record: https://www.bluespower.com/a-ngbtb.htm "Jeff [Spitz] decided that it was time to go into the record business, and he arranged a session at CBS studios in Chicago for his new label, Out Of Sight Records, a name suggested by Pete Welding, a musicologist and record producer who was living in Hyde Park. We cut two of my songs, "Whole Lotta Soul" and "Drunken Boat." These are the musicians on my first recording session: Nick Gravenites, vocal and guitar; Mike Bloomfield and Elvin Bishop, guitar; Paul Butterfield, harmonica; Erwin Helfer, harpsichord; Scotty Holt, Bass; Steve McCall, drums; Lester Bowie, trumpet; Julian Priester, trombone; Roscoe Mitchell, alto sax. We got two bizarre-sounding songs, had a thousand copies made; five hundred got lost in a warehouse somewhere, we gave away four hundred and sold a hundred". (Nick Gravenites in his book Bad Talkin' Bluesman)" ^^^Has it ever been reissued? I doubt. I am looking for it for years, in vain... Edited September 21 by RiRiIII Quote
JSngry Posted September 21 Report Posted September 21 39 minutes ago, Chuck Nessa said: Upon reflection, it was Mike Bloomfield screaming at me. Either way... Quote
Steve Gray Posted September 21 Report Posted September 21 (edited) It's on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuctdfkQ_50 Edited September 21 by Steve Gray Quote
RiRiIII Posted September 21 Author Report Posted September 21 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Steve Gray said: It's on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuctdfkQ_50 Indeed, thank you. It is Side A of this single featuring "Chicago blues pianist Erwin Helfer playing harpsichord, AACM drummer Steve McCall, possibly Scotty Holt on bass, and Nick's close friend, Paul Butterfield, on harp". However at Side B "Whole Lot of Soul." more AACM musicians perform as mentioned by @Chuck Nessa above and by Gravenites [Lester Bowie, trumpet; Julian Priester, trombone; Roscoe Mitchell, alto sax]. It would be great this B-Side to be shared as well. Perhaps @Chuck Nessa can help us. Thank you! https://www.discogs.com/release/12818010-Nick-The-Greek-Drunken-Boat Edited September 21 by RiRiIII Quote
felser Posted September 21 Report Posted September 21 I like that A side for what it is (I'm a huge fan of 60's American Psychedelic music) , thanks for the link. Wish there was a way to hear the B side, and a realistic way to own them in non-vinyl form. Quote
felser Posted September 21 Report Posted September 21 17 minutes ago, rostasi said: Drunken Boat Whole Lotta Soul Thank you! Very different from each other, they each have their charms, but "Drunken Boat" is the one with the magic IMO. Quote
BFrank Posted September 21 Report Posted September 21 Saw him on a panel at SXSW 2013 discussing the early years of that group of musicians Born in Chicago panel: Harvey Mandel, Nick Gravenites, Bill Bentley (moderator), Corky Siegel, Barry Goldberg Quote
RiRiIII Posted September 22 Author Report Posted September 22 7 hours ago, rostasi said: Drunken Boat Whole Lotta Soul Thank you very much. B-Side is very interesting as well - I like the sax etc. contributions which are more "free" than expected for such a composition. Very very nice. Quote
RiRiIII Posted September 22 Author Report Posted September 22 (edited) 8 hours ago, BFrank said: Saw him on a panel at SXSW 2013 discussing the early years of that group of musicians Born in Chicago panel: Harvey Mandel, Nick Gravenites, Bill Bentley (moderator), Corky Siegel, Barry Goldberg Thank you. One more photo from the event: Bill Bentley, seated, holds a photograph of drummer Sam Lay, who was unable to attend SXSW due to illness. Bentley, an A&R executive with Vanguard Records, was among the people who worked on "Born in Chicago" that features, from left, Nick Gravenites, Harvey Mandel, Corky Siegel and Barry Goldberg. (Photo by Mitchell Sinoway) Edited September 22 by RiRiIII Quote
BFrank Posted September 24 Report Posted September 24 On 9/21/2024 at 11:29 PM, RiRiIII said: Thank you. One more photo from the event: Bill Bentley, seated, holds a photograph of drummer Sam Lay, who was unable to attend SXSW due to illness. Bentley, an A&R executive with Vanguard Records, was among the people who worked on "Born in Chicago" that features, from left, Nick Gravenites, Harvey Mandel, Corky Siegel and Barry Goldberg. (Photo by Mitchell Sinoway) Nice! We were both there! I must have seen you - it wasn't very crowded. Quote
RiRiIII Posted September 24 Author Report Posted September 24 5 hours ago, BFrank said: Nice! We were both there! I must have seen you - it wasn't very crowded. Thank you but I live thousands miles away... I found the photo at the web. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted September 24 Report Posted September 24 On 9/20/2024 at 8:27 PM, Chuck Nessa said: Back in the late '60s he screamed at me in public for "swallowing the bullshit stuff of the AACM". I have this early 45 The band includes Roscoe Mitchell, Elvin Bishop, Mike Bloomfield, Paul Butterfield and Steve McCall been after that 45 for quite some time as well. Unlikely to run into one! RIP... Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted September 24 Report Posted September 24 1 hour ago, clifford_thornton said: been after that 45 for quite some time as well. Unlikely to run into one! RIP... We had a stack of them at the Jazz Record Mart back in the day. Quote
BFrank Posted September 25 Report Posted September 25 14 hours ago, RiRiIII said: Thank you but I live thousands miles away... I found the photo at the web. Fair enough Quote
felser Posted September 25 Report Posted September 25 12 hours ago, Chuck Nessa said: We had a stack of them at the Jazz Record Mart back in the day. Did it get radio play in Chicago? Quote
RiRiIII Posted September 25 Author Report Posted September 25 19 minutes ago, felser said: Did it get radio play in Chicago? These are acetates (?) sold at ebay. Were they used at radio stations? Quote
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