when heroin hit jazz

[JSngry]

3 hours ago, Teasing the Korean said:

That's a given, for jazz or any other cultural product.  And that is precisely what gives a piece of art longevity - the fact that it can be recontextualized by future audiences.

That also gives the market ample opportunity to bend, twist, and outright lie in the pursuit of monetary and mental ill-gotten against.

Everybody loves a lover, but never moreso when their lover is a liar.

[Teasing the Korean]

31 minutes ago, JSngry said:

That also gives the market ample opportunity to bend, twist, and outright lie in the pursuit of monetary and mental ill-gotten against.

Based on sales, this doesn't seem to be working in the market's favor.

[JSngry]

There's money to be made within false narratives.

[Teasing the Korean]

3 minutes ago, JSngry said:

There's money to be made within false narratives.

Who is making money on false jazz narratives? 

[JSngry]

Lincoln Center for one. Bookers of placeholders for another.

And people who get paid for writing bullshit like the OP article.

Control the narrative, control the product.

[Teasing the Korean]

19 minutes ago, JSngry said:

Lincoln Center for one. Bookers of placeholders for another.

And people who get paid for writing bullshit like the OP article.

Control the narrative, control the product.

That has gone on since Day One, and these examples are hardly cash cows. Contemporary listeners are just as capable of having visceral reactions to music as OG audiences.  

[JSngry]

Cash comes from grants and endowments now.

Yes, since Day One. That's why there's really no excuse for getting suckered.

[Teasing the Korean]

1 minute ago, JSngry said:

Cash comes from grants and endowments now.

Yes, and JALC is hardly the first stupid thing that a philanthropist has thrown his/her money at.  

People will be free to contextualize and recontextualize music however they please, with or without the extraneous noise.  

[JSngry]

(Re)Contextualizing is one thing. Stealing, raping, and erasing are something else altogether.

[Teasing the Korean]

1 hour ago, JSngry said:

(Re)Contextualizing is one thing. Stealing, raping, and erasing are something else altogether.

Agreed. Neither JALC nor contemporary jazz critics factor into my listening choices, so I may be underestimating their impact or influence.  

Edited September 28, 2024 by Teasing the Korean