John Coltrane - Like Sonny - Roulette CD

[Teasing the Korean]

I have this disc, but I do not have the inserts, so I don't know how much info is included.

Most of this disc, from track 5 on, is the Ray Draper Jubilee album with Coltrane, in mono.

But there are 3 stereo tracks at the beginning - 4 if you count the alternate take - with McCoy Tyner.  The tracks are "One and Four" ("Mr. Day" on Atlantic), "Like Sonny," and "Exotica" ("Untitled Original" or similar on Atlantic). 

What is the story with these tracks?  Were they recorded for Roulette?  I see that they showed up on one of those 70s Echoes of an Era Roulette twofer LPs.  Was this their first appearance on vinyl? Was the Like Sonny CD the first time they'd been released digitally?

 

[JSngry]

[Chuck Nessa]

I had this set in high school.

DISCOGS

One side Trane, one side Lee & Wayne, one side Thad and the last side was "historical" tracks.

Edited August 15 by Chuck Nessa

[JSngry]

19 minutes ago, Chuck Nessa said:

I had this set in high school.

DISCOGS

One side Trane, one side Lee & Wayne, one side Thad and the last side was "historical" tracks.

That would have been the initial  release then, correct?

[mjzee]

The Lee Morgan material was released on this 10" LP (!) in 2017:

The Thad Jones material was released on his Mosaic box.

[Chuck Nessa]

2 hours ago, JSngry said:

That would have been the initial  release then, correct?

Yup

That was Roulette RB-2 - I also had Roulette RB-1

Edited August 15 by Chuck Nessa

[optatio]

10 hours ago, Teasing the Korean said:

I have this disc, but I do not have the inserts, so I don't know how much info is included.

Most of this disc, from track 5 on, is the Ray Draper Jubilee album with Coltrane, in mono.

But there are 3 stereo tracks at the beginning - 4 if you count the alternate take - with McCoy Tyner.  The tracks are "One and Four" ("Mr. Day" on Atlantic), "Like Sonny," and "Exotica" ("Untitled Original" or similar on Atlantic). 

What is the story with these tracks?  Were they recorded for Roulette?  I see that they showed up on one of those 70s Echoes of an Era Roulette twofer LPs.  Was this their first appearance on vinyl? Was the Like Sonny CD the first time they'd been released digitally?

 

See https://www.discogs.com/de/release/2249514-John-Coltrane-Like-Sonny - click 'More images!

Liner notes by Michael Cuscuna from my insert:

[Kevin Bresnahan]

10 hours ago, mjzee said:

The Lee Morgan material was released on this 10" LP (!) in 2017:

The Thad Jones material was released on his Mosaic box.

This Morgan material is on this CD:

[Teasing the Korean]

Thanks, all!

[mhatta]

According to The John Coltrane Reference (the authors have located a contract letter sent from Nesuhi Ertegun of Atlantic to Teddy Reig of Roulette), this session was a one-off deal. Atlantic, with whom Coltrane was under contract at the time, had given Roulette permission to record only one side of the LP, which is why there are only four songs.

[Teasing the Korean]

8 hours ago, mhatta said:

According to The John Coltrane Reference (the authors have located a contract letter sent from Nesuhi Ertegun of Atlantic to Teddy Reig of Roulette), this session was a one-off deal. Atlantic, with whom Coltrane was under contract at the time, had given Roulette permission to record only one side of the LP, which is why there are only four songs.

Thanks!

[andybleaden]

I have had this for years and years and did not ever have the brains to work out the Ray Draper set was the one from Prestige (or as it says here now I have my glasses on - from Jubilee Records!)