Teasing the Korean Posted August 14 Report Share Posted August 14 I have this disc, but I do not have the inserts, so I don't know how much info is included. Most of this disc, from track 5 on, is the Ray Draper Jubilee album with Coltrane, in mono. But there are 3 stereo tracks at the beginning - 4 if you count the alternate take - with McCoy Tyner. The tracks are "One and Four" ("Mr. Day" on Atlantic), "Like Sonny," and "Exotica" ("Untitled Original" or similar on Atlantic). What is the story with these tracks? Were they recorded for Roulette? I see that they showed up on one of those 70s Echoes of an Era Roulette twofer LPs. Was this their first appearance on vinyl? Was the Like Sonny CD the first time they'd been released digitally? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chuck Nessa Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 (edited) I had this set in high school. DISCOGS One side Trane, one side Lee & Wayne, one side Thad and the last side was "historical" tracks. Edited August 15 by Chuck Nessa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 19 minutes ago, Chuck Nessa said: I had this set in high school. DISCOGS One side Trane, one side Lee & Wayne, one side Thad and the last side was "historical" tracks. That would have been the initial release then, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 The Lee Morgan material was released on this 10" LP (!) in 2017: The Thad Jones material was released on his Mosaic box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 (edited) 2 hours ago, JSngry said: That would have been the initial release then, correct? Yup That was Roulette RB-2 - I also had Roulette RB-1 Edited August 15 by Chuck Nessa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optatio Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 10 hours ago, Teasing the Korean said: I have this disc, but I do not have the inserts, so I don't know how much info is included. Most of this disc, from track 5 on, is the Ray Draper Jubilee album with Coltrane, in mono. But there are 3 stereo tracks at the beginning - 4 if you count the alternate take - with McCoy Tyner. The tracks are "One and Four" ("Mr. Day" on Atlantic), "Like Sonny," and "Exotica" ("Untitled Original" or similar on Atlantic). What is the story with these tracks? Were they recorded for Roulette? I see that they showed up on one of those 70s Echoes of an Era Roulette twofer LPs. Was this their first appearance on vinyl? Was the Like Sonny CD the first time they'd been released digitally? See https://www.discogs.com/de/release/2249514-John-Coltrane-Like-Sonny - click 'More images! Liner notes by Michael Cuscuna from my insert: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Bresnahan Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 10 hours ago, mjzee said: The Lee Morgan material was released on this 10" LP (!) in 2017: The Thad Jones material was released on his Mosaic box. This Morgan material is on this CD: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted August 15 Author Report Share Posted August 15 Thanks, all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhatta Posted August 15 Report Share Posted August 15 According to The John Coltrane Reference (the authors have located a contract letter sent from Nesuhi Ertegun of Atlantic to Teddy Reig of Roulette), this session was a one-off deal. Atlantic, with whom Coltrane was under contract at the time, had given Roulette permission to record only one side of the LP, which is why there are only four songs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted August 15 Author Report Share Posted August 15 8 hours ago, mhatta said: According to The John Coltrane Reference (the authors have located a contract letter sent from Nesuhi Ertegun of Atlantic to Teddy Reig of Roulette), this session was a one-off deal. Atlantic, with whom Coltrane was under contract at the time, had given Roulette permission to record only one side of the LP, which is why there are only four songs. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybleaden Posted September 15 Report Share Posted September 15 I have had this for years and years and did not ever have the brains to work out the Ray Draper set was the one from Prestige (or as it says here now I have my glasses on - from Jubilee Records!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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