Charlie Haden

[Milestones]

His actual singing voice?  I find it interesting and effective--and in fact preferable to some of the singers he used in his later years.  I know of only two vocals: "Wayfaring Stranger" and "Shenandoah."

[clifford_thornton]

15 hours ago, felser said:

Buell Neidlinger and Denis Charles come immediately to mind for me, followed by Raphe Malik, Ramsey Ameen, and Ronald Shannon Jackson (realize others think more highly of his work).

Ameen is the only one of those players I haven't heard outside of CT. I quite like them all on their own, as well as in the Taylor orbit. Malik is a musician who mined a narrow seam but did it with brilliance and commitment.

[soulpope]

15 hours ago, felser said:

Buell Neidlinger and Denis Charles come immediately to mind for me ....

I believe Steve Lacy was a strong motivator ....

[clifford_thornton]

yep. Buell also had his own bands which were quite interesting, well into the 1990s and early 00s. Beautiful sound on the bass and very creative, not to mention a fascinating raconteur.

Denis Charles reemerged in the loft era and was very active until his death in 1998. Certainly his personal problems created inconsistency but when he was on fire he was definitely on fire. There are numerous recordings that bear this out.

Edited August 17 by clifford_thornton

[soulpope]

7 minutes ago, clifford_thornton said:

yep. Buell also had his own bands which were quite interesting, well into the 1990s and early 00s. Beautiful sound on the bass and very creative, not to mention a fascinating raconteur.

Indeed ....

[Holy Ghost]

On 8/11/2024 at 2:09 PM, clifford_thornton said:

Very hard to choose, but I loved his playing on two tracks of Alan Shorter's Orgasm LP.

Interviewed Haden fairly early on in my jazz writing career and he was incredibly kind and fun to speak with, as well as politically engaged (naturally). I would imagine the LMO being a voice for the voiceless in places like Palestine/Israel, the Congo, and other areas right now, which is desperately needed.

Wow! Track one? That bass line he builds is almost like what you would hear on a Marion Brown ESP album. Don't have the cd in front of me, but Haden is all over Orgasm. But, before then, when I turned into a true Charlie Haden listener, was Ornette's This Is Our Music; it blew me away for one reason: Charlie Haden. I love the sleeve too, where everyone (except Ed Blackwell) looks effing badass serious.

 

 

 

[clifford_thornton]

Haden is on the first and last tracks of Orgasm, and Reggie Johnson is on the rest. 

Not sure on what record he first grabbed me sonically; probably Change of the Century, which was also the first Ornette album I bought. Played it to death in college.

[colinmce]

It was "Street Woman" from Science Fiction for me. Had never heard anything like what he was doing on there before.

[clifford_thornton]

Yes! Heard that a little later, so awesome. He plays a bit like that on the Charles Brackeen, owing somewhat to the choice of amplification I assume.

[soulpope]

Both his duo recordings from the late 70's with either Hampton Hawes "As Long There Is Music" (Artists House) or Christian Escoude "Gitane" (All Life) opened my ears and remained dear to my heart ....