Byard Lancaster, The complete Palm Recordings 1973-74

[cayetano]

October 4, 7 LP box-set.

https://www.soundohm.com/product/complete-palm-recordings

[clifford_thornton]

so 4 original albums, one of which is a double LP, plus a track from the Anthology, and what else fills out the set? Curious. I have the originals but I could be tempted to pick this up.

[cayetano]

I don't have any originals but according to discogs "Us" was one vinyl + one 7".

Edited August 2 by cayetano

[felser]

Sigh.  I'd probably would be in for CD or even download.  I believe some of this is available on individual CD's.

[rdgoodkind@yahoo.com]

Byard Lancaster - Us + Mother Africa + Exactement + Funny Funky Rib Crib CD Bundle

€45.00

https://www.soufflecontinurecords.com/product/byard-lancaster-us-mother-africa-exactement-funny-funky-rib-crib-cd-bundle

[felser]

Thanks!  Shipping to USA is another 20. euros, so I may try to get them from other vendors.

[soulpope]

4 hours ago, rdgoodkind@yahoo.com said:

Byard Lancaster - Us + Mother Africa + Exactement + Funny Funky Rib Crib CD Bundle

€45.00

https://www.soufflecontinurecords.com/product/byard-lancaster-us-mother-africa-exactement-funny-funky-rib-crib-cd-bundle

Thnx for the info 👍 ....

[colinmce]

That's much more like it.

[jlhoots]

On 8/2/2024 at 7:54 PM, felser said:

Thanks!  Shipping to USA is another 20. euros, so I may try to get them from other vendors.

I wonder who else will have it - Squidco?, Dusty Groove?

[mjazzg]

CD purchase for me too I think. Mind you these Palm reissues all end up on streaming too.

I'm guessing by the general enthusiasm that these are all well regarded albums? My knowledge of Lancaster is inexplicably poor

Edit to add: looks like they're available individually, and also currently streaming in BC

Edited August 4 by mjazzg

[felser]

8 hours ago, mjazzg said:

CD purchase for me too I think. Mind you these Palm reissues all end up on streaming too.

I'm guessing by the general enthusiasm that these are all well regarded albums? My knowledge of Lancaster is inexplicably poor

Edit to add: looks like they're available individually, and also currently streaming in BC

He could be pretty flighty and indulgent at times, not everything he did was "good",  but he was almost always interesting.

[clifford_thornton]

On 8/2/2024 at 2:31 PM, cayetano said:

I don't have any originals but according to discogs "Us" was one vinyl + one 7".

yeah, and one of the 7" tracks also appears on Funny Funky Rib Crib. Regardless it is interesting music and will be a welcome set, especially if it includes additional music.

[JSngry]

I saw him playing bass clarinet in a Leroy Jenkins group and his instrument didn't have a bell on it. That was odd. But he played great!

[clifford_thornton]

yeah, the one time I saw him was excellent -- quartet with Harold E. Smith, Ed Crockett, Bert Smith, and Rufus Harley sat in along with his son Messiah. Pretty far out.

[clifford_thornton]

Update: 

four proper LPs and the music from one 7" and a Gilson Anthology track spread across 7 records, so they've obviously maximized sides in odd ways. No newly unearthed music. The booklet is probably pretty cool, given Pierre's way with words and a heap of rare photos. I might get it just because my Mother Africa pressing is kinda noisy and I want the book, but...

[Pim]

This is great news. Very satisfied with the Baikida Carroll they reissued. Truly a beautiful reissue. Not familiar with these records but I do consider myself a Byard Lancaster aficionado so I’ll probably get this. It’s great anyway that there are still labels that are reissuing the more obscure jazz

[colinmce]

On 8/4/2024 at 11:16 AM, jlhoots said:

I wonder who else will have it - Squidco?, Dusty Groove?

Not Squidco, and Dusty Groove will probably not have enough copies to go around. Forced Exposure seems to be about the only place I know of that reliably stocks the Souffle Continu CDs.

[l p]

still, it would've been nice if there was new material on this box. byard fans already have all this previously issued stuff.

 

 

[jlhoots]

34 minutes ago, l p said:

still, it would've been nice if there was new material on this box. byard fans already have all this previously issued stuff.

 

 

List the "new material" for us. Thanks.

[l p]

the only palm thing i know about is

'lovingkindness' unissued extracts. "was intended for palm 14 but not released".

35 minutes.

 

work and pray    raw mix

work and pray    different version. same guitar(?)

rib crib I    mix,  with added instruments, and some instruments missing.

rib crib II   raw mix

 

so really, just the 2nd item is new. but they (palm) must have more. or maybe it's all lost after all these years.

 

 

[cliffpeterson]

The individual cds are available for preorder at Dusty Groove and Forced Exposure

[clifford_thornton]

On 8/7/2024 at 4:39 PM, l p said:

the only palm thing i know about is

'lovingkindness' unissued extracts. "was intended for palm 14 but not released".

35 minutes.

 

work and pray    raw mix

work and pray    different version. same guitar(?)

rib crib I    mix,  with added instruments, and some instruments missing.

rib crib II   raw mix

 

so really, just the 2nd item is new. but they (palm) must have more. or maybe it's all lost after all these years.

 

 

there's also a session with Eddy Louiss for Palm that Byard told me about. I don't know if tapes survived.

[l p]

there's a fascinating thing about byard, maybe unique.

i know from 2 sources that byard used to send tapes of his unissued music (concerts/studio) to fans. i know of people in uk, and usa who have received such gifts. and not just 1 or 2 tapes, but like 10-20 tapes.

would love to find a 3rd person who's received such treasures.

 

 

 

 

Edited September 23 by l p

[clifford_thornton]

Cool! Someone has them still, for sure.

[clifford_thornton]

Mike Hames' print discography apparently listed a ton of sessions. I've not actually laid hands on a copy but would love to see one.