medjuck Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 (edited) Ricky Riccardi just announced this on Face Book: https://www.archeophone.com/catalogue/king-oliver-centennial/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR18bXtL46Ti0Rmc_6-NayxkzOKP5AmXksDGHd-bZcpTWdUiiDWp7vcCyH8_aem_bkkrTnhWF5ba4fRvvI_Liw Edited July 8 by medjuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AllenLowe Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Dub Modal said: Whoa now you've got me in suspense because I have Medjuck on ignore. What did he say? If it's about the King Oliver reissue yes, major news. Edited July 8 by AllenLowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 I will definitely be scooping this up. It is sure to be an education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted July 8 Report Share Posted July 8 Centennial King Oliver's Creole Jazz Band / Various Artists Add to Cart Centennial will be released on August 30, 2024; order before August 1 for the steepest discount. The 1923 recordings by King Oliver’s working Chicago band are the stuff of legend. Nothing like them had ever been heard on record before, and nothing in jazz would be the same afterward. Here, for the first time, all 37 sides are presented—in release order—on two LPs and two CDs, along with 55 additional tracks (on CDs 3 and 4) that allow us to understand these musical giants not only as innovators but also as products of the acoustic-era recording industry. With all-new restorations and remastering by Richard Martin, these selections have never sounded better. Further, there’s an 80-page book included, where GRAMMY-winning author Ricky Riccardi insightfully tells the story of the relationship between “Papa Joe” Oliver and “Little Louis” Armstrong and gives detailed notes on the tracks. Produced by Archeophone’s Meagan Hennessey and Richard Martin, GRAMMY-winning producers of Lost Sounds. Celebrate the 100th anniversary of these landmark records! List price: $114.95 Sale price: $99.95 OVERVIEW Catalogue number: ARCH 6014 UPC: 860003210093 Original release date: August 30, 2024 Box set features 4 CDs, 2 LPs in a double gatefold, an 80-page hard-bound book and a 22″ by 33″ poster packaged in a hard slipcase In Archeophone’s Jazz, Dance & Blues series Tracks and Sound SamplesAdditional PhotosVideos TRACKLIST: CD 1 (KING OLIVER’S CREOLE JAZZ BAND) 1. Dipper Mouth Blues King Oliver’s Creole Jazz Band 1923 2. Weather Bird Rag King Oliver’s Creole Jazz Band 1923 3. Just Gone King Oliver’s Creole Jazz Band 1923 4. Canal Street Blues King Oliver’s Creole Jazz Band 1923 5. Mandy Lee Blues King Oliver’s Creole Jazz Band 1923 6. I’m Going Away to Wear You Off My Mind King Oliver’s Creole Jazz Band 1923 7. Froggie Moore King Oliver’s Creole Jazz Band 1923 8. Chimes Blues King Oliver’s Creole Jazz Band 1923 9. Snake Rag King Oliver’s Creole Jazz Band 1923 10. Sobbin’ Blues King Oliver’s Jazz Band 1923 11. Sweet Lovin’ Man King Oliver’s Jazz Band 1923 12. Dipper Mouth Blues King Oliver’s Jazz Band 1923 13. Where Did You Stay Last Night? King Oliver’s Jazz Band 1923 14. High Society Rag King Oliver’s Jazz Band 1923 15. Snake Rag King Oliver’s Jazz Band 1923 16. Krooked Blues King Oliver and His Creole Jazz Band 1923 17. Alligator Hop King Oliver and His Creole Jazz Band 1923 18. Zulus Ball King Oliver and His Creole Jazz Band 1923 19. Workingman Blues King Oliver and His Creole Jazz Band 1923 TRACKLIST: CD 2 (KING OLIVER’S CREOLE JAZZ BAND) 1. Jazzin’ Babies Blues King Oliver’s Jazz Band 1923 2. Chattanooga Stomp King Oliver’s Jazz Band 1923 3. New Orleans Stomp King Oliver’s Jazz Band 1923 4. The Southern Stomps (take 1) King Oliver’s Jazz Band 1923 5. The Southern Stomps (take 2) King Oliver’s Jazz Band 1923 6. Riverside Blues King Oliver’s Jazz Band 1923 7. Mabel’s Dream (take 1) King Oliver’s Jazz Band 1923 8. Mabel’s Dream (take 2) King Oliver’s Jazz Band 1923 9. London (Café) Blues King Oliver’s Jazz Band 1923 10. Camp Meeting Blues King Oliver’s Jazz Band 1923 11. Tears King Oliver’s Jazz Band 1923 12. Buddy’s Habit King Oliver’s Jazz Band 1923 13. Working Man Blues King Oliver’s Jazz Band 1923 14. Riverside Blues King Oliver’s Jazz Band 1923 15. Room Rent Blues King Oliver’s Jazz Band 1923 16. I Ain’t Gonna Tell Nobody King Oliver’s Jazz Band 1923 17. Mabel’s Dream King Oliver’s Jazz Band 1923 18. Sweet Baby Doll King Oliver’s Jazz Band 1923 BONUS: Non-Oliver flip sides: 19. Choo Choo Blues Art Landry’s Syncopatin’ Six 1923 20. New Orleans Hop Scop Blues Clarence Williams’ Blue Five 1923 21. Dearborn Street Blues Young’s Creole Jazz Band 1923 TRACKLIST: CD 3 (LOUIS’ RECORD COLLECTION) 2. Tell Me Pretty Maiden Sextette from Florodora 1901 3. Semper Fidelis March Sousa’s Band 1906 4. The Holy City Henry Burr ca. 1903 5. Oif’n pripetshok (A Little Fire Burns in the Stove) Naum Coster 1918 6. Flee as a Bird Frederick Wheeler 1911 7. O Didn’t He Ramble Dan W. Quinn 1904 8. Bugle Calls of the United States Army Bugle Calls ca. 1902-04 9. Maple Leaf Rag U.S. Marine Band 1909 10. The Fatal Stone (from Aida) Arthur Pryor and Emile Kenecke, acc. Pryor’s Band 1909 11. Swiss Echo Song (L’Eco) Luisa Tetrazzini 1911 12. Darling Nellie Gray Haydn Quartet 1908 13. A Little Bunch of Shamrocks Edgar Stoddard and Henry Burr 1913 14. Carnival of Venice Herbert L. Clarke 1909 15. High Society Prince’s Military Band 1911 16. Quartet—Bella figlia dell’ amore (from Rigoletto) Amelita Galli-Curci–Flora Perini–Enrico Caruso–Giuseppe de Luca 1917 17. Shout All Over God’s Heaven Fisk University Male Quartette 1915 18. Play that Barbershop Chord Billy Murray & American Quartet 1910 19. That Haunting Melody Al Jolson 1911 20. It’s a Long, Long Way to Tipperary John McCormack & Male Chorus 1914 21. Ballin’ the Jack (Intro. “What It Takes to Make Me Love You, You’ve Got It”) Victor Military Band 1914 22. M’appari (from Martha) Enrico Caruso 1917 23. Ole Miss Rag Handy’s Orchestra of Memphis 1917 24. Clarinet Marmalade Blues Original Dixieland Jazz Band 1918 25. The Moon Shines on the Moonshine Bert Williams 1919 26. Darktown Court Room Shelton Brooks & Co. 1921 TRACKLIST: CD 4 (JOE’S JAZZ KINGDOM) 1. Don’t Take Away Those Blues Flo Bert 1920 2. Avalon (Intro. “The Japanese Sandman”) Art Hickman’s Orchestra 1920 3. Wang-Wang Blues Paul Whiteman and His Ambassador Orchestra 1920 4. Royal Garden Blues Mamie Smith’s Jazz Hounds 1921 5. St. Louis Blues Original Dixieland Jazz Band (vocal: Al Bernard) 1921 6. Wabash Blues Isham Jones Orchestra (laughing cornet: Louis Panico) 1921 7. Frisco Jazz Band Blues Ethel Waters’ Jazz Masters 1921 8. Bugle Blues Johnny Dunn’s Original Jazz Hounds 1921 9. My Honey’s Lovin’ Arms Levy’s Trio 1922 10. I’m Going Away to Wear You Off My Mind Original Memphis Five 1922 11. Hot Lips Specht’s Society Serenaders 1922 12. Krooked Blues Roberta Dudley, acc. Ory’s Sunshine Orchestra 1922 13. That Sweet Something Dear Ruth Lee, acc. Ory’s Sunshine Orchestra 1922 14. I Wish I Could Shimmy Like My Sister Kate The Georgians 1922 15. Panama Friars Society Orchestra 1922 16. Buddy’s Habits Charley Straight and His Orchestra 1923 17. Jazzin’ Babies Blues Eva Taylor (acc. Clarence Williams’ Trio) 1923 18. Play That Thing Ollie Powers’ Harmony Syncopators 1923 19. Sobbin’ Blues Art Kahn’s Orchestra 1923 20. The Black Sheep Blues Midway Dance Orchestra 1923 21. Barney Google Original Capitol Orchestra 1923 22. You Ernest Stevens’ Dance Orchestra 1923 23. London Blues Jelly Roll Morton’s Jazz Band 1923 24. Ringside Blues Greenwich Village Orchestra 1923 25. Old Black Joe’s Blues Henderson’s “Club Alabam’” Orchestra 1923 26. When the Jazz Band Starts to Play Thomas Morris’ Past Jazz Masters 1923 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles65 Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 Pre ordered it. And ordered the Ford Dabney 2 CD set as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 (edited) Well, all 37 sides have been released before 100s of times. When they say that they are releasing them for the first time, the catch would appear to be "in release order." That is to be distinguished from previous releases that usually follow chronological order. It is difficult to imagine that they will be able to improve on the extraordinary sound quality of the Archeophone Records release from 2006. I have the vast majority of the other music presented here as well. While it is interesting how they compiled it, I don't think that the sequencing on discs 3 & 4 will make for frequent play. I would have much preferred including King Oliver's other great recordings instead. Those could use some good new remastering. And the price is quite hefty. This is the kind of package that I would usually grab right away, but I think that I may pass this time. John Edited July 10 by John L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbbfam Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 I would be curious to listen to this for its historical value. I wouldn't expect this to get frequent play. But, alas, no CD only option apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted July 10 Report Share Posted July 10 2 minutes ago, hbbfam said: But, alas, no CD only option apparently. This, plus the expected high import fees if I order from them directly will keep me from ordering this for now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKE BBB Posted July 11 Report Share Posted July 11 19 hours ago, John L said: Well, all 37 sides have been released before 100s of times. When they say that they are releasing them for the first time, the catch would appear to be "in release order." That is to be distinguished from previous releases that usually follow chronological order. It is difficult to imagine that they will be able to improve on the extraordinary sound quality of the Archeophone Records release from 2006. I have the vast majority of the other music presented here as well. While it is interesting how they compiled it, I don't think that the sequencing on discs 3 & 4 will make for frequent play. I would have much preferred including King Oliver's other great recordings instead. Those could use some good new remastering. And the price is quite hefty. This is the kind of package that I would usually grab right away, but I think that I may pass this time. John I couldn’t agree more, John. A “complete Oliver-led sessions” boxed set would have been much more welcomed. Note in the blurb that Archeophone specifies that their involvement on the 2006 release was only as a distributor (allegedly it was an Off-The-Record product, iirc with sound restoration by David Sager). In addition, the “compulsory” 4CD + 2LP package seems awkward to me. Having said that, I am a great admirer of Ricky Riccardi’s work, and am looking forward to his third book on Satchmo. 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles65 Posted July 11 Report Share Posted July 11 (edited) These recordings are now in the public domain in the USA because they are a 100 years old. Yes they have been reissued umpteen times. but with the addition of recordings influenced by Oliver and recordings from Armstrongs own collection makes this a must have for me. The rest of King Olivers recordings are not in the public domain in the USA. Therefore Archeophone can not issue them. And moste are electronically recorded and thus outside the scope of Archeophone. They are available from the Frog label: DGF 34 King Oliver Vocalion & Brunswick recordings volume 1 Sugarfoot stomp DGF 35 King Oliver Vocalion & Brunswick recordings volume 2 Farewell blues DGF 64 The complete Victor recordings volume 1 Call of the freaks DGF 65 The complete Victor recordings volume 2 New Orleans shout DGF 68 King Oliver Blues singers & hot bands on Okeh 1924-1929 Three missing alternate takes are on: DGF 71 Frog spawn the first batch These CD's do not contain the 2 sides with Jelly Roll Morton and the accompaniment by Oliver and 2 Ida Cox sides on Paramount. The duets with Jelly Roll Morton are on Jazz Oracle BDW 8065 Jelly Roll Morton rarities. Edited July 12 by miles65 typo and small addition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted July 12 Report Share Posted July 12 On 7/10/2024 at 3:41 PM, John L said: Well, all 37 sides have been released before 100s of times. When they say that they are releasing them for the first time, the catch would appear to be "in release order." That is to be distinguished from previous releases that usually follow chronological order. It is difficult to imagine that they will be able to improve on the extraordinary sound quality of the Archeophone Records release from 2006. I have the vast majority of the other music presented here as well. While it is interesting how they compiled it, I don't think that the sequencing on discs 3 & 4 will make for frequent play. I would have much preferred including King Oliver's other great recordings instead. Those could use some good new remastering. And the price is quite hefty. This is the kind of package that I would usually grab right away, but I think that I may pass this time. John This pretty much says it all. I have the Archeophone release, which we were told were speed-corrected and in the best possible fidelity. That would leave two discs and a book for $100. I can wait for someone to give it to me as a gift (which probably won't happen). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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