King Oliver (and Pops)

[medjuck]

Ricky Riccardi just announced this on Face Book:  https://www.archeophone.com/catalogue/king-oliver-centennial/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR18bXtL46Ti0Rmc_6-NayxkzOKP5AmXksDGHd-bZcpTWdUiiDWp7vcCyH8_aem_bkkrTnhWF5ba4fRvvI_Liw

Edited July 8 by medjuck

[Dub Modal]

Whoa

[AllenLowe]

19 minutes ago, Dub Modal said:

Whoa

now you've got me in suspense because I have Medjuck on ignore. What did he say? If it's about the King Oliver reissue yes, major news.

Edited July 8 by AllenLowe

[clifford_thornton]

I will definitely be scooping this up. It is sure to be an education.

[kh1958]

Centennial
King Oliver's Creole Jazz Band / Various Artists

 

 

 

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Centennial will be released on August 30, 2024; order before August 1 for the steepest discount.

The 1923 recordings by King Oliver’s working Chicago band are the stuff of legend. Nothing like them had ever been heard on record before, and nothing in jazz would be the same afterward. Here, for the first time, all 37 sides are presented—in release order—on two LPs and two CDs, along with 55 additional tracks (on CDs 3 and 4) that allow us to understand these musical giants not only as innovators but also as products of the acoustic-era recording industry. With all-new restorations and remastering by Richard Martin, these selections have never sounded better. Further, there’s an 80-page book included, where GRAMMY-winning author Ricky Riccardi insightfully tells the story of the relationship between “Papa Joe” Oliver and “Little Louis” Armstrong and gives detailed notes on the tracks. Produced by Archeophone’s Meagan Hennessey and Richard Martin, GRAMMY-winning producers of Lost Sounds. Celebrate the 100th anniversary of these landmark records!  List price: $114.95  Sale price: $99.95

OVERVIEW

• Catalogue number: ARCH 6014
• UPC: 860003210093
• Original release date: August 30, 2024
• Box set features 4 CDs, 2 LPs in a double gatefold, an 80-page hard-bound book and a 22″ by 33″ poster packaged in a hard slipcase
• In Archeophone’s Jazz, Dance & Blues series

Tracks and Sound SamplesAdditional PhotosVideos

TRACKLIST: CD 1 (KING OLIVER’S CREOLE JAZZ BAND)
	1.	Dipper Mouth Blues	King Oliver’s Creole Jazz Band	1923
	2.	Weather Bird Rag	King Oliver’s Creole Jazz Band	1923
	3.	Just Gone	King Oliver’s Creole Jazz Band	1923
	4.	Canal Street Blues	King Oliver’s Creole Jazz Band	1923
	5.	Mandy Lee Blues	King Oliver’s Creole Jazz Band	1923
	6.	I’m Going Away to Wear You Off My Mind	King Oliver’s Creole Jazz Band	1923
	7.	Froggie Moore	King Oliver’s Creole Jazz Band	1923
	8.	Chimes Blues	King Oliver’s Creole Jazz Band	1923
	9.	Snake Rag	King Oliver’s Creole Jazz Band	1923
	10.	Sobbin’ Blues	King Oliver’s  Jazz Band	1923
	11.	Sweet Lovin’ Man	King Oliver’s  Jazz Band	1923
	12.	Dipper Mouth Blues	King Oliver’s  Jazz Band	1923
	13.	Where Did You Stay Last Night?	King Oliver’s  Jazz Band	1923
	14.	High Society Rag	King Oliver’s  Jazz Band	1923
	15.	Snake Rag	King Oliver’s  Jazz Band	1923
	16.	Krooked Blues	King Oliver and His Creole Jazz Band	1923
	17.	Alligator Hop	King Oliver and His Creole Jazz Band	1923
	18.	Zulus Ball	King Oliver and His Creole Jazz Band	1923
	19.	Workingman Blues	King Oliver and His Creole Jazz Band	1923

 

TRACKLIST: CD 2 (KING OLIVER’S CREOLE JAZZ BAND)
	1.	Jazzin’ Babies Blues	King Oliver’s Jazz Band	1923
	2.	Chattanooga Stomp	King Oliver’s Jazz Band	1923
	3.	New Orleans Stomp	King Oliver’s Jazz Band	1923
	4.	The Southern Stomps (take 1)	King Oliver’s Jazz Band	1923
	5.	The Southern Stomps (take 2)	King Oliver’s Jazz Band	1923
	6.	Riverside Blues	King Oliver’s Jazz Band	1923
	7.	Mabel’s Dream (take 1)	King Oliver’s Jazz Band	1923
	8.	Mabel’s Dream (take 2)	King Oliver’s Jazz Band	1923
	9.	London (Café) Blues	King Oliver’s Jazz Band	1923
	10.	Camp Meeting Blues	King Oliver’s Jazz Band	1923
	11.	Tears	King Oliver’s Jazz Band	1923
	12.	Buddy’s Habit	King Oliver’s Jazz Band	1923
	13.	Working Man Blues	King Oliver’s Jazz Band	1923
	14.	Riverside Blues	King Oliver’s Jazz Band	1923
	15.	Room Rent Blues	King Oliver’s Jazz Band	1923
	16.	I Ain’t Gonna Tell Nobody	King Oliver’s Jazz Band	1923
	17.	Mabel’s Dream	King Oliver’s Jazz Band	1923
	18.	Sweet Baby Doll	King Oliver’s Jazz Band	1923
BONUS: Non-Oliver flip sides:
	19.	Choo Choo Blues	Art Landry’s Syncopatin’ Six	1923
	20.	New Orleans Hop Scop Blues	Clarence Williams’ Blue Five	1923
	21.	Dearborn Street Blues	Young’s Creole Jazz Band	1923

 

TRACKLIST: CD 3 (LOUIS’ RECORD COLLECTION)
	2.	Tell Me Pretty Maiden	Sextette from Florodora	1901
	3.	Semper Fidelis March	Sousa’s Band	1906
	4.	The Holy City	Henry Burr	ca. 1903
	5.	Oif’n pripetshok (A Little Fire Burns in the Stove)	Naum Coster	1918
	6.	Flee as a Bird	Frederick Wheeler	1911
	7.	O Didn’t He Ramble	Dan W. Quinn	1904
	8.	Bugle Calls of the United States Army	Bugle Calls	ca. 1902-04
	9.	Maple Leaf Rag	U.S. Marine Band	1909
	10.	The Fatal Stone (from Aida)	Arthur Pryor and Emile Kenecke, acc. Pryor’s Band	1909
	11.	Swiss Echo Song (L’Eco)	Luisa Tetrazzini	1911
	12.	Darling Nellie Gray	Haydn Quartet	1908
	13.	A Little Bunch of Shamrocks	Edgar Stoddard and Henry Burr	1913
	14.	Carnival of Venice	Herbert L. Clarke	1909
	15.	High Society	Prince’s Military Band	1911
	16.	Quartet—Bella figlia dell’ amore (from Rigoletto)	Amelita Galli-Curci–Flora Perini–Enrico Caruso–Giuseppe de Luca	1917
	17.	Shout All Over God’s Heaven	Fisk University Male Quartette	1915
	18.	Play that Barbershop Chord	Billy Murray & American Quartet	1910
	19.	That Haunting Melody	Al Jolson	1911
	20.	It’s a Long, Long Way to Tipperary	John McCormack & Male Chorus	1914
	21.	Ballin’ the Jack (Intro. “What It Takes to Make Me Love You, You’ve Got It”)	Victor Military Band	1914
	22.	M’appari (from Martha)	Enrico Caruso	1917
	23.	Ole Miss Rag	Handy’s Orchestra of Memphis	1917
	24.	Clarinet Marmalade Blues	Original Dixieland Jazz Band	1918
	25.	The Moon Shines on the Moonshine	Bert Williams	1919
	26.	Darktown Court Room	Shelton Brooks & Co.	1921

 

TRACKLIST: CD 4 (JOE’S JAZZ KINGDOM)
	1.	Don’t Take Away Those Blues	Flo Bert	1920
	2.	Avalon (Intro. “The Japanese Sandman”)	Art Hickman’s Orchestra	1920
	3.	Wang-Wang Blues	Paul Whiteman and His Ambassador Orchestra	1920
	4.	Royal Garden Blues	Mamie Smith’s Jazz Hounds	1921
	5.	St. Louis Blues	Original Dixieland Jazz Band (vocal: Al Bernard)	1921
	6.	Wabash Blues	Isham Jones Orchestra (laughing cornet: Louis Panico)	1921
	7.	Frisco Jazz Band Blues	Ethel Waters’ Jazz Masters	1921
	8.	Bugle Blues	Johnny Dunn’s Original Jazz Hounds	1921
	9.	My Honey’s Lovin’ Arms	Levy’s Trio	1922
	10.	I’m Going Away to Wear You Off My Mind	Original Memphis Five	1922
	11.	Hot Lips	Specht’s Society Serenaders	1922
	12.	Krooked Blues	Roberta Dudley, acc. Ory’s Sunshine Orchestra	1922
	13.	That Sweet Something Dear	Ruth Lee, acc. Ory’s Sunshine Orchestra	1922
	14.	I Wish I Could Shimmy Like My Sister Kate	The Georgians	1922
	15.	Panama	Friars Society Orchestra	1922
	16.	Buddy’s Habits	Charley Straight and His Orchestra	1923
	17.	Jazzin’ Babies Blues	Eva Taylor (acc. Clarence Williams’ Trio)	1923
	18.	Play That Thing	Ollie Powers’ Harmony Syncopators	1923
	19.	Sobbin’ Blues	Art Kahn’s Orchestra	1923
	20.	The Black Sheep Blues	Midway Dance Orchestra	1923
	21.	Barney Google	Original Capitol Orchestra	1923
	22.	You	Ernest Stevens’ Dance Orchestra	1923
	23.	London Blues	Jelly Roll Morton’s Jazz Band	1923
	24.	Ringside Blues	Greenwich Village Orchestra	1923
	25.	Old Black Joe’s Blues	Henderson’s “Club Alabam’” Orchestra	1923
	26.	When the Jazz Band Starts to Play	Thomas Morris’ Past Jazz Masters	1923

 

[miles65]

Pre ordered it. And ordered the Ford Dabney 2 CD set as well.

[John L]

Well, all 37 sides have been released before 100s of times.   When they say that they are releasing them for the first time, the catch would appear to be "in release order."  That is to be distinguished from previous releases that usually follow chronological order.  

It is difficult to imagine that they will be able to improve on the extraordinary sound quality of the Archeophone Records release from 2006.

I have the vast majority of the other music presented here as well.  While it is interesting how they compiled it, I don't think that the sequencing on discs 3 & 4 will make for frequent play.

I would have much preferred including King Oliver's other great recordings instead.  Those could use some good new remastering.    

And the price is quite hefty.

This is the kind of package that I would usually grab right away, but I think that I may pass this time. 

John

Edited July 10 by John L

[hbbfam]

I would be curious to listen to this for its historical value.  I wouldn't expect this to get frequent play.  But, alas, no CD only option apparently.

[mikeweil]

2 minutes ago, hbbfam said:

But, alas, no CD only option apparently.

This, plus the expected high import fees if I order from them directly will keep me from ordering this for now.

[EKE BBB]

19 hours ago, John L said:

Well, all 37 sides have been released before 100s of times.   When they say that they are releasing them for the first time, the catch would appear to be "in release order."  That is to be distinguished from previous releases that usually follow chronological order.  

It is difficult to imagine that they will be able to improve on the extraordinary sound quality of the Archeophone Records release from 2006.

I have the vast majority of the other music presented here as well.  While it is interesting how they compiled it, I don't think that the sequencing on discs 3 & 4 will make for frequent play.

I would have much preferred including King Oliver's other great recordings instead.  Those could use some good new remastering.    

And the price is quite hefty.

This is the kind of package that I would usually grab right away, but I think that I may pass this time. 

John

I couldn’t agree more, John. A “complete Oliver-led sessions” boxed set would have been much more welcomed. 

Note in the blurb that Archeophone specifies that their involvement on the 2006 release was only as a distributor (allegedly it was an Off-The-Record product, iirc with sound restoration by David Sager).

In addition, the “compulsory” 4CD + 2LP package seems awkward to me.

Having said that, I am a great admirer of Ricky Riccardi’s work, and am looking forward to his third book on Satchmo. 😀

 

[miles65]

These recordings are now in the public domain in the USA because they are a 100 years old. Yes they have been reissued umpteen times. but with the addition of recordings influenced by Oliver and recordings from Armstrongs own collection makes this a must have for me. The  rest of King Olivers recordings are not in the public domain in the USA. Therefore Archeophone can not issue them. And moste are electronically recorded and thus outside the scope of Archeophone.

They are available from the Frog label:

DGF 34 King Oliver Vocalion & Brunswick recordings volume 1 Sugarfoot stomp

DGF 35 King Oliver Vocalion & Brunswick recordings volume 2 Farewell blues

DGF 64 The complete Victor recordings volume 1 Call of the freaks

DGF 65 The complete Victor recordings volume 2 New Orleans shout

DGF 68 King Oliver Blues singers & hot bands on Okeh 1924-1929

Three missing alternate takes are on:

DGF 71 Frog spawn the first batch

These CD's do not contain the 2 sides with Jelly Roll Morton and the accompaniment by Oliver and 2 Ida Cox sides on Paramount.

The duets with Jelly Roll Morton are on Jazz Oracle BDW 8065 Jelly Roll Morton rarities. 

 

 

Edited July 12 by miles65
typo and small addition

[mjzee]

On 7/10/2024 at 3:41 PM, John L said:

Well, all 37 sides have been released before 100s of times.   When they say that they are releasing them for the first time, the catch would appear to be "in release order."  That is to be distinguished from previous releases that usually follow chronological order.  

It is difficult to imagine that they will be able to improve on the extraordinary sound quality of the Archeophone Records release from 2006.

I have the vast majority of the other music presented here as well.  While it is interesting how they compiled it, I don't think that the sequencing on discs 3 & 4 will make for frequent play.

I would have much preferred including King Oliver's other great recordings instead.  Those could use some good new remastering.    

And the price is quite hefty.

This is the kind of package that I would usually grab right away, but I think that I may pass this time. 

John

This pretty much says it all.  I have the Archeophone release, which we were told were speed-corrected and in the best possible fidelity.  That would leave two discs and a book for $100.  I can wait for someone to give it to me as a gift (which probably won't happen).

[jazzbo]

I haven't delved into this yet, but it has arrived and just from the physical object itself in hand I know it will be magnificent.

[danasgoodstuff]

Does anyone else hear the Oliver band with Armstrong as funk?  Sounds to me more like the JBs, etc. than like any modern jazz band.  Not that that's a bad thing... just wondering.