Ellington Indigos at 45 rpm !!??

[medjuck]

I just read about this. It's a two 12inch Lps to be played at 45rpm.  Is this a thing now?  (Makes sense, I guess.)

[JSngry]

Does it have "The Sky Fell Down"?

[jazzbo]

 

Yes it does.

https://store.acousticsounds.com/d/188634/Duke_Ellington-Ellington_Indigos-45_RPM_Vinyl_Record

Edited June 18, 2024 by jazzbo

[medjuck]

I'm presuming these are 12" records, but I don't see where the say this in their advertising.    I'm tempted to buy it but I don't have a very good turntable and I already own 3 cd versions of "Ellington Indigos".  (I got it from the Columbia Record Club when it was new and it was the first of the 100s of Ellington releases I've bought since.)  

Edited June 18, 2024 by medjuck

[mjazzg]

At risk of slightly derailing this, I'm now  streaming an 'Expanded' version of this album on Tidal and loving it, my first time hearing this music (yes, I know).

It includes 6 extra tracks including a vocal 'Strange Feeling', 'Coloratura' and 'Cop Out' but I'm having trouble finding a physical release on discogs that includes the extra tunes.

I'm assuming they're from the same sessions? Anyone know of a physical release that includes them?

I'm a complete Ellington neophyte so forgive me if I'm missing something obvious

[jazzbo]

I think that those three are earlier tracks, from '45, '52 and '57 respectively, added to that streaming version. I don't know if they match up to a cd reissue version, haven't seen one.

[mjazzg]

16 minutes ago, jazzbo said:

I think that those three are earlier tracks, from '45, '52 and '57 respectively, added to that streaming version. I don't know if they match up to a cd reissue version, haven't seen one.

Thank you.

That makes sense as the only results I got for them on Discogs were from early dates. Odd that they are added on the version I listened to but that's streaming services for you.

[jazzbo]

I don't stream so I'm not sure but I've noticed a few things like this, compilations with some selections that seem ringers.

[Mark Stryker]

Answering the opening question:

Audiophile LP reissues mastered at 45 rpm  have been a thing for a long time. 

Edited June 18, 2024 by Mark Stryker

[Chuck Nessa]

4 hours ago, mjazzg said:

At risk of slightly derailing this, I'm now  streaming an 'Expanded' version of this album on Tidal and loving it, my first time hearing this music (yes, I know).

It includes 6 extra tracks including a vocal 'Strange Feeling', 'Coloratura' and 'Cop Out' but I'm having trouble finding a physical release on discogs that includes the extra tunes.

I'm assuming they're from the same sessions? Anyone know of a physical release that includes them?

I'm a complete Ellington neophyte so forgive me if I'm missing something obvious

The extra tracks were added to Ellington Indigos for this box -

The final 4 tracks, including Strange Feeling, comprise "The Perfume Suite".

Edited June 18, 2024 by Chuck Nessa

[mjazzg]

1 hour ago, Chuck Nessa said:

The extra tracks were added to Ellington Indigos for this box -

The final 4 tracks, including Strange Feeling, comprise "The Perfume Suite".

Thank you

[JSngry]

A version of Cop Out made it out on  Festival Seedion

There was also a 45 of it.

[Mark Stryker]

17 minutes ago, JSngry said:

A version of Cop Out made it out on  Festival Seedion

There was also a 45 of it.

That's a LONG version -- too long, really. Gonsalves was often great at  sustaining extended solos, but not every time ...

Edited June 18, 2024 by Mark Stryker

[JSngry]

Was that take edited for the 45 or was it s different take?

Maybe it was a 45 or maybe it was on one of those CSP samplers?

Either way, there's a shorter version out there.

[medjuck]

There's a"Jazz Beat" release called "The Complete Ellington Indigos" with 19 tracks including several alternates, "The Sky Fell Down" and "Love (My Heart, My Mind My Everything").

IIRC the original Lp release had an abbreviated version of Autumn Leaves minus the part sung in French. 

Edited June 18, 2024 by medjuck

[jazzbo]

1 hour ago, Chuck Nessa said:

The extra tracks were added to Ellington Indigos for this box -

The final 4 tracks, including Strange Feeling, comprise "The Perfume Suite".

Wow! I haven't looked at or listened to that disc in that box set in a long time (I have two LP and two cd versions of "Indigos" outside this box). Should fix that. 

1 minute ago, medjuck said:

There's a"Jazz Beat" release called "The Complete Ellington Indigos" with 19 tracks including several alternates, The Sky Fell Down and "Love (My Heart, My Mind My Everything). 

IIRC the original Lp release had an abbreviated version of Autumn Leaves minus the part sung in French. 

And "The Sky Fell Down" was included on the original mono LP release.

[medjuck]

1 minute ago, jazzbo said:

Wow! I haven't looked at or listened to that disc in that box set in a long time (I have two LP and two cd versions of "Indigos" outside this box). Should fix that. 

Is one Lp mono and one stereo  and they have some different takes? I have a vague memory of that. 

[jazzbo]

Yes, as released:

Mono LP

A1		Solitude Written-By – Ellington*, Delange*, Mills* Written-By – Ellington*, Delange*, Mills*
A2		Where Or When Written-By – Hart-Rodgers* Written-By – Hart-Rodgers*
A3		Mood Indigo Written-By – Bigard*, Ellington*, Mills* Written-By – Bigard*, Ellington*, Mills*
A4		Autumn Leaves Vocals – Ozzie Bailey Written-By – Prevert*, J. H. Mercer*, Kosma* Vocals – Ozzie Bailey Written-By – Prevert*, J. H. Mercer*, Kosma*
A5		The Sky Fell Down Written-By – Ellington* Written-By – Ellington*
B1		Prelude To A Kiss Written-By – Ellington*, I. Gordon*, Mills* Written-By – Ellington*, I. Gordon*, Mills*
B2		Willow Weep For Me Written-By – Ronell* Written-By – Ronell*
B3		Tenderly Written-By – J. Lawrence*, Gross* Written-By – J. Lawrence*, Gross*
B4		Dancing In The Dark Written-By – Dietz-A. Schwartz*   STEREO LP   A1   Solitude Written-By – Ellington*, DeLange*, Mills* Written-By – Ellington*, DeLange*, Mills* A2   Where Or When Written-By – Hart-Rodgers* Written-By – Hart-Rodgers* A3   Mood Indigo Written-By – Bigard*, Ellington*, Mills* Written-By – Bigard*, Ellington*, Mills* A4   Autumn Leaves Vocals – Ozzie Bailey Written-By – Prevert*, J. H. Mercer*, Kosma* Vocals – Ozzie Bailey Written-By – Prevert*, J. H. Mercer*, Kosma* B1   Prelude To A Kiss Written-By – Ellington*, I. Gordon*, Mills* Written-By – Ellington*, I. Gordon*, Mills* B2   Willow Weep For Me Written-By – Ronell* Written-By – Ronell* B3   Tenderly Written-By – J. Lawrence*, Gross* Written-By – J. Lawrence*, Gross* B4   Dancing In The Dark Written-By – Dietz-A. Schwartz* Written-By – Dietz-A. Schwartz*   The stereo versions of "Mood Indigo" and "Willow Weep for Me" are different from their mono counterparts.

Edited June 18, 2024 by jazzbo