Best Live Boxed Set?

[romualdo]

Eric Dolphy At The Five Spot : Booker Little (tp) Eric Dolphy (as-1,b-cl-2,fl-3) Mal Waldron (p) Richard Davis (b) Ed Blackwell (d)

Live "Five Spot Cafe", New York, July 16, 1961

3146	(Warming up and tuning)	(rejected)
3147	Status seeking (1)	Prest PR7382, P24070, OJC CD-673-2 [CD],
		Prestige PRCD-5708-2 [CD]
3148	God bless the child (2 solo)	Prest PR7382, P24070, OJC CD-673-2 [CD]
3149	Agression (2)	Prest PR7294, PR34002, OJC 247, Prestige
		088072313392 [CD]
3150	Like someone in love (3)	Prest PR7294, PR34002, OJC 247, Prestige
		088072313392 [CD]
3151	Fire waltz (1)	Prest PR7611, New Jazz NJLP8260, OJC 133, Prestige
		PRCD-5708-2 [CD], Prestige/New Jazz 088807230656
		[CD], Avid (E)AMSC1112 [CD]
3152	Bee vamp (2)	Prest PR7611, New Jazz NJLP8260, OJC 133,
		Prestige/New Jazz 088807230656 [CD], Avid
		(E)AMSC1112 [CD]
3152	Bee vamp (alt) (2)	Prest MPP2517, Prestige/New Jazz 088807230656 [CD]
3153	The prophet (1)	Prest PR7611, New Jazz NJLP8260, OJC 133,
		Prestige/New Jazz 088807230656 [CD], Avid
		(E)AMSC1112 [CD]
3154	Number eight [Potsa lotsa] (1)	Prest PR7334, OJC CD353 [CD], Prestige
		088072313392 [CD]
3155	Booker's waltz (2)	Prest PR7334, OJC CD353 [CD], Prestige PRCD-5708-2
		[CD], Prestige 088072313392 [CD]

Note:

Prestige PR7294 = Prestige 7826. OJC CD353 [CD] also titled "Memorial album". Prestige/New Jazz 088807230656 [CD] titled "Eric Dolphy At The Five Spot". Prestige 088072313392 [CD] titled "Eric Dolphy At The Five Spot, Vol. 2". All issued titles also on Prestige P34002, PR7334 titled "Memorial album"; these are triple LPs. All issued titles also on Essential Jazz Classics (Sp)EJC55537 [CD] titled "Eric Dolphy/Booker Little Quintet - At The Five Spot, Complete Edition"; a 2 CD set. All issued titles also on Prestige 9PRCD-4418-2 [CD].

 

[soulpope]

1 hour ago, romualdo said:

Eric Dolphy At The Five Spot : Booker Little (tp) Eric Dolphy (as-1,b-cl-2,fl-3) Mal Waldron (p) Richard Davis (b) Ed Blackwell (d)

Live "Five Spot Cafe", New York, July 16, 1961

3146	(Warming up and tuning)	(rejected)
3147	Status seeking (1)	Prest PR7382, P24070, OJC CD-673-2 [CD],
		Prestige PRCD-5708-2 [CD]
3148	God bless the child (2 solo)	Prest PR7382, P24070, OJC CD-673-2 [CD]
3149	Agression (2)	Prest PR7294, PR34002, OJC 247, Prestige
		088072313392 [CD]
3150	Like someone in love (3)	Prest PR7294, PR34002, OJC 247, Prestige
		088072313392 [CD]
3151	Fire waltz (1)	Prest PR7611, New Jazz NJLP8260, OJC 133, Prestige
		PRCD-5708-2 [CD], Prestige/New Jazz 088807230656
		[CD], Avid (E)AMSC1112 [CD]
3152	Bee vamp (2)	Prest PR7611, New Jazz NJLP8260, OJC 133,
		Prestige/New Jazz 088807230656 [CD], Avid
		(E)AMSC1112 [CD]
3152	Bee vamp (alt) (2)	Prest MPP2517, Prestige/New Jazz 088807230656 [CD]
3153	The prophet (1)	Prest PR7611, New Jazz NJLP8260, OJC 133,
		Prestige/New Jazz 088807230656 [CD], Avid
		(E)AMSC1112 [CD]
3154	Number eight [Potsa lotsa] (1)	Prest PR7334, OJC CD353 [CD], Prestige
		088072313392 [CD]
3155	Booker's waltz (2)	Prest PR7334, OJC CD353 [CD], Prestige PRCD-5708-2
		[CD], Prestige 088072313392 [CD]

Note:

Prestige PR7294 = Prestige 7826. OJC CD353 [CD] also titled "Memorial album". Prestige/New Jazz 088807230656 [CD] titled "Eric Dolphy At The Five Spot". Prestige 088072313392 [CD] titled "Eric Dolphy At The Five Spot, Vol. 2". All issued titles also on Prestige P34002, PR7334 titled "Memorial album"; these are triple LPs. All issued titles also on Essential Jazz Classics (Sp)EJC55537 [CD] titled "Eric Dolphy/Booker Little Quintet - At The Five Spot, Complete Edition"; a 2 CD set. All issued titles also on Prestige 9PRCD-4418-2 [CD].

 

Worthy candidate indeed ....

[mhatta]

14 hours ago, hbbfam said:

Turns out this box has all of the Five Spot tracks.

From memory, the standalone CD of Vol. 1 has a relatively long tuning, club buzz and laughter before the opening Fire Waltz, while the box set track starts abruptly (I only have the box set now). Maybe it's just me, but I like it better when there is club noise for a while and then the performance.

[gmonahan]

On 4/23/2024 at 1:52 PM, jazzbo said:

Look above in this thread, this was just offered with membership in the LA Jazz Institute and that opportunity has apparently ended.

Thanks Lon. I had seen that but hoped there might be another way. Oh well, it'll come up for sale some way some day!

 

[medjuck]

On 4/23/2024 at 7:31 AM, Ron S said:

I was thinking of posting this one, but figured that someone else would eventually get to it.  👍

IIRC it's not really complete, but rather a collection of what had been previously released as individual albums put into chronological order.  If I do remember correctly I wonder if there is more unreleased material.   ( just looked at the liner notes and they claim that this is "all known" recordings from the date but I doubt that they had access to the Contemporary vaults.)

Nevertheless a great set and I'm just being greedy. 

[Larry Kart]

Best outburst of applause on a claasical album. At the end of Horenstein's live recording of the Mahler 7th (BBC).Sudden,fierce, spontaneous.

[Ron S]

16 hours ago, medjuck said:

IIRC it's not really complete, but rather a collection of what had been previously released as individual albums put into chronological order.  If I do remember correctly I wonder if there is more unreleased material.   ( just looked at the liner notes and they claim that this is "all known" recordings from the date but I doubt that they had access to the Contemporary vaults.)

Nevertheless a great set and I'm just being greedy. 

Yeah, I was actually thinking of the 5 separate CDs designated volumes 1-5 and issued by Contemporary/Fanatasy as part of the old OJC series, so technically not a box set.  I never bought that PD box set, since I already had the 5 original Contemporary CDs.

[mikeweil]

On 4/20/2024 at 4:56 PM, JSngry said:

I was thinking about that one, too.

[soulpope]

14 hours ago, Larry Kart said:

Best outburst of applause on a claasical album. At the end of Horenstein's live recording of the Mahler 7th (BBC).Sudden,fierce, spontaneous.

True ....

[jazzcorner]

On 4/23/2024 at 9:44 PM, gmonahan said:

Where do I go to buy this? Discogs lists it as existing but has no copies for sale.

 

It was a special prepaid "limited edition"  Item for LAJ members announced last year.

Some tracks have appeared on  a vinyl " The Chet Baker tracks" on Cpontemporary. The rest is as far as I see it 'unissued'

[jazzcorner]

17 hours ago, Ron S said:

Yeah, I was actually thinking of the 5 separate CDs designated volumes 1-5 and issued by Contemporary/Fanatasy as part of the old OJC series, so technically not a box set.  I never bought that PD box set, since I already had the 5 original Contemporary CDs.

Have these too and that  seems all which is released.

  Manne,Shelly         ...and his men at the Black Hawk Vol 2 1959   Contemporary        7578

Manne,Shelly         ...and his men at the Black Hawk Vol 3 1959    Contemporary        7579

 Manne,Shelly         ...and his men at the Black Hawk Vol 4 1959   Contemporary        7580

CD  Manne,Shelly     ..and his men at the Black Hawk Vol 5 1959  Contemporary      660-2

Manne,Shelly         ...and his men at the Black Hawk,Vol 1 1959    Contemporary        7577

      

[porcy62]

6 hours ago, jazzcorner said:

Have these too and that  seems all which is released.

  Manne,Shelly         ...and his men at the Black Hawk Vol 2 1959   Contemporary        7578

Manne,Shelly         ...and his men at the Black Hawk Vol 3 1959    Contemporary        7579

 Manne,Shelly         ...and his men at the Black Hawk Vol 4 1959   Contemporary        7580

CD  Manne,Shelly     ..and his men at the Black Hawk Vol 5 1959  Contemporary      660-2

Manne,Shelly         ...and his men at the Black Hawk,Vol 1 1959    Contemporary        7577

      

I have the original vinyls, up to vol 4. Among the best sounding live recordings in my collection. 

[sidewinder]

57 minutes ago, porcy62 said:

I have the original vinyls, up to vol 4. Among the best sounding live recordings in my collection. 

Yes, same here. I have early stereo copies and can't think of anything that sounds better than them for live recordings.

[porcy62]

16 minutes ago, sidewinder said:

Yes, same here. I have early stereo copies and can't think of anything that sounds better than them for live recordings.

Surprisingly all the instruments has a perfect balance and the illusion of being there is overwhelming. Definitely a great recording.

[sidewinder]

Indeed - hard to believe that you are not there, facing the stage. My copies are the green deep-groove pressing.

[porcy62]

First time I listened to them I thought it was a Du Nann work, but it wasn’t. Guess Contemporary had a good vibe whoever was behind the console. I don’t have a bad sounding Contemporary.

[jazzcorner]

4 hours ago, porcy62 said:

I have the original vinyls, up to vol 4. Among the best sounding live recordings in my collection. 

Yes indeed. Contemporary had excellent live recordings. Its a favorite label I have colleted for many years beside Pacific Jazz/World Pacific

[Stonewall15]

The photo of the session seems to be reversed from the music. 

[Ron S]

7 hours ago, porcy62 said:

I have the original vinyls, up to vol 4. Among the best sounding live recordings in my collection. 

As I recall, the first 4 volumes of the CD editions matches the contents of the 4 volumes of the original LPs, and CD volume 5 consists of takes that were not included on the original LPs.  And agreeing with everyone else here, the recording quality is simply stunning.  Close your eyes, and you are back there in the Black Hawk in 1959--like having a time machine.

Edited April 28 by Ron S

[Chuck Nessa]

5 minutes ago, Ron S said:

As I recall, the first 4 volumes of the CD editions matches the contents of the 4 volumes of the original LPs, and CD volume 5 consists of takes that were not included on the original LPs.  And agreeing with everyone else here, the recording quality is simply stunning.  Close your eyes, and you are back there in the Black Hawk in 1959--like having a time machine.

Each of the first 4 volumes (on cd) has a bonus track.

[Ron S]

Most of you have probably already seen this article about and interview of legendary Contemporary engineer Roy DuNann concerning the origins of the Contemporary "sound," but for those who haven't yet seen it:

https://www.stereophile.com/interviews/402roy/index.html

As porcy62 pointed out, the Black Hawk sessions weren't recorded by DuNann--it was Howard Holzer--but this article helps to explain how Contemporary got such phenomenal sound.

 

13 minutes ago, Chuck Nessa said:

Each of the first 4 volumes (on cd) has a bonus track.

Thanks!  I should have taken the time to actually pull them off the shelf to refresh my memory.

 

Edited April 28 by Ron S

[romualdo]

17 hours ago, jazzcorner said:

It was a special prepaid "limited edition"  Item for LAJ members announced last year.

Some tracks have appeared on  a vinyl " The Chet Baker tracks" on Cpontemporary. The rest is as far as I see it 'unissued'

AFAIK there were only 100 sets issued

Of the 60 tracks covering the 6CD set only 11 had been previously released (including one from an earlier LAJI CD)

[Kevin Bresnahan]

10 hours ago, romualdo said:

AFAIK there were only 100 sets issued

Of the 60 tracks covering the 6CD set only 11 had been previously released (including one from an earlier LAJI CD)

Which makes absolutely no sense for a fundraiser. If you have a fundraiser and find that there is demand for the item, make more and raise more money. Limiting it is just limiting your own ability to raise those funds. Just dumb.

And, as I said, I tried going through the process to join the LAJ just so I could buy this set but during the process, there was no way to get that set, even though it was being advertised as a membership drive "perk".

[romualdo]

The very best of Waldron/Lacy recorded live (over 4 hours worth) in Paris over 4 days in mid August '81 - spectacular music