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Ted Daniel Quintet - Tapestry


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Listening to this one now trough Spotify and I am fascinated by it. Sound is pretty bad. Does anyone know if the 2008 cd reissue was an improvement over the original LP?
 

For those unfamiliar with it: it’s with Jerome Cooper, Khan Jamal and some lesser know but excellent musicians:

 

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I have that 2008 Porter CD and consider the sound pretty decent. Granted I'm not an audiophile, and Ted Daniel didn't record for big-budget labels so expectations have to be managed. I never heard the original release. It's an excellent album.

I have quite a few Ted Daniel CDs. In my experience, the ones on Ujamaa with the black covers (I own the "Sextet" and "Loft Years" but not the solo release from Italy) have dodgy, even outright bad sound but others are OK.

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Ujamaa is Ted's own label. I'm sure the source tapes aren't always pristine. The extra tracks on Sextet make it a worthwhile pickup, in addition to the original LP (which is still reasonably priced according to Discogs).

I have the Sun LP of Tapestry and the sound is far from crisp, but it is a very cool record.

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Okay thanks guys. Really like what I am hearing and bad sound isn’t a show stopper for me but like to hear it in the best way possible at least. Khan Jamal is also on fire in this one

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8 hours ago, clifford_thornton said:

Ujamaa is Ted's own label. I'm sure the source tapes aren't always pristine. The extra tracks on Sextet make it a worthwhile pickup, in addition to the original LP (which is still reasonably priced according to Discogs).

I have the Sun LP of Tapestry and the sound is far from crisp, but it is a very cool record.

Yes, Sextet is very good despite rather distant sound quality due to source tapes. The Loft Years impresses me less despite high expectations, but I'll spin it again soon. Probably should pick up the Solo...Italy album but some other things took priority recently.

In the Beginning is good if you can find it. Ted Daniel is on some recommendable "Andrew Cyrille's Maono" albums.

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1 hour ago, barnaba.siegel said:

Not so long ago there was this archival album released. Has anybody heard it? The line-up and all sounds like a treat, but I'm not sure about the sound quality and overall feelings :)

https://teddanielmusic.com/ted-daniel%2C-with-energy

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There's a very positive review here  that doesn't mention sound quality.

The Dusty Groove blurb  mentions that "...The tape of this performance that survived is a bit thin, [but the magic of the music really comes through as you let your ears open up]...", which is no surprise, based both on my experience with other Ujamaa recordings and on general principles re. surviving loft-era tapes.

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I looked for Ted Daniel on my shelf and found him on this LP: Dewey Redman – The Ear Of The Behearer. Impulse AS-9250 [1973]

 

Redman Dewey (Copy).jpg

Ted Daniel (tp, Moroccan bugle), Dewey Redman (ts, as, musette), Jane Robertson (cello), Sirone (b, wood flute), Eddie Moore (dr, tympany, gong, saw), Danny Johnson (perc)

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I found a copy of this earlier in 2024..."The Bastards" had a lot of Ted Daniel recordings in stock for a while.

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It's pretty cool, though different from the other recordings mentioned in the thread.

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On 7/5/2024 at 1:25 AM, T.D. said:

There's a very positive review here  that doesn't mention sound quality.

 

 

On 7/7/2024 at 6:17 PM, clifford_thornton said:

Excellent session, sound quality is fine.

Dammit, I'm buying it 😄

It will be my first from Dusty Grooves. Any experience with tax paying for LP for EU residents?

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On 7/8/2024 at 1:01 AM, optatio said:

I looked for Ted Daniel on my shelf and found him on this LP: Dewey Redman – The Ear Of The Behearer. Impulse AS-9250 [1973]

 

Redman Dewey (Copy).jpg

Ted Daniel (tp, Moroccan bugle), Dewey Redman (ts, as, musette), Jane Robertson (cello), Sirone (b, wood flute), Eddie Moore (dr, tympany, gong, saw), Danny Johnson (perc)

❤️👌👍 ....

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2 hours ago, barnaba.siegel said:

Any experience with tax paying for LP for EU residents?

Most likely you will have to pay Polish VAT + "processing fee". If the order is more than €150 there will be import tariffs as well.   

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38 minutes ago, Д.Д. said:

Most likely you will have to pay Polish VAT + "processing fee". If the order is more than €150 there will be import tariffs as well.   

Within the EU only the applicable VAT is due (and probably a handling fee) when importing CDs from outside the EU, and NO import tariffs when the total value of the order exceeds 150 euros. I checked the Dutch tax authority's site but it applies throughout the EU - scroll down to "BTW (VAT) en invoerrechten (tariffs) voor veel gekochte producten" - go to CDs, and there the tariff is 0.

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On 7/7/2024 at 6:16 PM, T.D. said:

I found a copy of this earlier in 2024..."The Bastards" had a lot of Ted Daniel recordings in stock for a while.

daniel_ted~_zulusball_101b.jpg

It's pretty cool, though different from the other recordings mentioned in the thread.

I have that someplace. Will see if I can find it.

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5 hours ago, barnaba.siegel said:

Thanks. Recently I got new Mosaic box set and there was no customs fee at all, so I was pleasantly surprised.

I don’t want to temper you’re joy but there are post companies that send a bill afterwards…. 

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19 hours ago, Pim said:

I don’t want to temper you’re joy but there are post companies that send a bill afterwards…. 

Correct. If the set was delivered by FedEx they will send a VAT bill (plus handling fee) some time after delivery.

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