Tjazz Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 cards in 5 games vs astros ss1 Best out of 7? You're only giving the Astro's 1 game? I'll give them 2. Can't go against the Yankees. Still think the Red Soxs are underdogs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BERIGAN Posted October 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 (edited) Not to toot my own horn or anything, but I haven't done too badly...Did anyone bet money based on these predictions? Dan, I swear I am for the Sox, and nothing would give me more pleasure than to be wrong about them!!!! I am already wrong about Pedro in the 7th game, unless Terry gets some great idea to use him in relief! Go Sox!!!! "Yanks Vs. Twins... Yanks in 4, they will lose the first one, and come from behind once again.... Boston Vs. Angels, Boston in 5, Shilling is why! Walk Vlad every time, but it won't be easy. Yanks Vs. Sox, Yanks in 7 games. John Flaherty will be the designated hero to hit a Pedro 88 MPH fastball in the 7th, after Pedro has given up a walk and 2 hits... Pedro will have Yankee's bitch tattoed on his forhead. Cards, Vs Dodgers. Cards in 4. Top to bottom, Cards are best team in baseball. Dodgers have a sore armed Gagne , and only 2 hitters with more than 85 RBI's (well, Steve Finley as well, but not there all year) Astros Vs. Braves. Astros in 5. Clemons will start twice. They were 36 and 10 with Phil Garner I just heard. Braves are great in the regular season, but Bobby Cox gets dumb come October. He wasn't really resting players either, wanting the home field advantage, but you would think failing 12 out of 13 times would make you want a rested team for the playoffs! Cards Vs. Astros. Cards win it in 6, BTB. (Best team in baseball) Yanks Vs. Cards, Cards in 7" Edited October 12, 2004 by BERIGAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BERIGAN Posted October 12, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Dan,(Or any other die hard sox fan) do you feel that IF the Sox get past the Yanks, that in a way that is almost as good as winning the Series? That if the sox lost in the world series, at least the Damn Yankees didn't win it this year? Hope no one loses site of the big picture, and writes off the NL, who'd a thunk the Marlins could beat the Yankees last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted October 12, 2004 Report Share Posted October 12, 2004 Dan,(Or any other die hard sox fan) do you feel that IF the Sox get past the Yanks, that in a way that is almost as good as winning the Series? That if the sox lost in the world series, at least the Damn Yankees didn't win it this year? I just posed that question to my wife (as die hard a fan as I am). She said she wants them to win it all, but we agreed that beating the Yanks and ruining Steinbrenner's winter would be at least somewhat satisfying. The problem is, with all the turnover this team is likely to see, this is our best shot imaginable, in all likelihood. With Varitek, Pedro and Lowe as free agents, and a big whole to fill at shortstop, I'm not sure how soon we come together so well as a team again. You can bet they'll spend big bucks, but who is in and who is out is too up in the air. We gotta do it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim McG Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Hey! The [hated] dodgers actually won one whole game in 16 years. I mean...WOW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BERIGAN Posted October 13, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 (edited) Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 6 to zip! Shilling must be hurt, no fastball. Matsui(SP?) hits a ball 2 inches off the ground to drive in 2 , then a 3 run double....Perhaps the Yankees won't know what to do winning the first game of a series! EDIT! Matsui only drove in one run with the first double, but did eventually drive in 5. Edited October 13, 2004 by BERIGAN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheldonm Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 (edited) Man, the Sox are off to a rocky start, down a touchdown into the fourth inning ; Boston with no hits yet. I hope they can rally......I really don't want the Yankees to win! Edited October 13, 2004 by sheldonm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim McG Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Ooo. What a shock. The Red Sox are losing [once AGAIN] to the rich-boy's Yankees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 It's a long game and a long series. Just out of curiosity, did Rivera make it back? (I'm at work and following it only on the Internet.) Looks like they might not need him tonight--I hope Mussina can go 7 or even 8 and let the bullpen have a night off, but 6 runs ain't enough for me against the Bosox lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheldonm Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Man, the Sox are off to a rocky start, down a touchdown into the fourth inning ; Boston with no hits yet. I hope they can rally......I really don't want the Yankees to win! ....damn, no hits through 6 ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Man, the Sox are off to a rocky start, down a touchdown into the fourth inning ; Boston with no hits yet. I hope they can rally......I really don't want the Yankees to win! ....damn, no hits through 6 ! You said that deliberately, didn't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheldonm Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 You know I love you like a brother.....but it's the Yankees every damn year!!!!! Go Cardinals!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 You know I love you like a brother..... I had two brothers... I know all about that "love" business! B-) FWIW I would love to see the Cardinals gain the series. And Boston just scored 3 runs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Make that 5 runs. Like I said, 6 ain't enough... looks like NY may need Gordon & Rivera after all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 They did... and Gordon wasn't much help tonight. Man, that turned into a real nailbiter. Yanks should have blown them out & ended up needing to go to the ace. Good to beat Schilling, though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleM Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Man, what an offensive outpour by the Yanks. I just watched the last 3 innings in a sports bar, and I was one of two Yankees fans (to 100 or so BoSox fans). I had to contain myself there near the end, when inside I was giggling with glee!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 I'm less concerned about Pedro tonite than whether Schilling can pitch again or be effective. If he can't, or isn't, we're done. He's the whole f-ing reason we're favored. The other key is Damon doing his thing. The statistics are simple enough that even "idiots" can understand them: Damon scores once, the winning percentage is like .600+. Damon scores more than once, the winning percentage has got to be over .700. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave James Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Talk about running the full gamut of emotions. Up 8-0 and I'm higher than a kite. Up 8-7 and I'm close to cardiac arrest. Then the mini-comeback, 4 outs from Rivera and that's that. Props to the Sox for making a game of it...have you ever seen a pitcher pitch that well and then lose it faster than Mussina did last night...but don't forget to give the Yanks credit for tacking on two keys runs late to put it away. Poor play across the board in left field, but I can forgive some fielding gaffes when my guy is plating five. Manny, on the other hand, looked as bad as I've ever seen him look both offensively and defensively. One quick comment about Shilling. Next time you bring your mouth to Yankee Stadium, better make sure you bring your arm with it. Watching him bite the dust after popping off like he did was immensely satisfying. Dan, I agree with you, if he's not 100%, your hill just got a lot steeper. It's going to be a long series. And, if last night's game is any indication, a nail biter of Brodbinagian proportion. Not sure I can handle it. Up over and Harold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyJazz Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Talk about running the full gamut of emotions. Up 8-0 and I'm higher than a kite. Up 8-7 and I'm close to cardiac arrest. Then the mini-comeback, 4 outs from Rivera and that's that. Props to the Sox for making a game of it...have you ever seen a pitcher pitch that well and then lose it faster than Mussina did last night...but don't forget to give the Yanks credit for tacking on two keys runs late to put it away. Poor play across the board in left field, but I can forgive some fielding gaffes when my guy is plating five. Manny, on the other hand, looked as bad as I've ever seen him look both offensively and defensively. One quick comment about Shilling. Next time you bring your mouth to Yankee Stadium, better make sure you bring your arm with it. Watching him bite the dust after popping off like he did was immensely satisfying. Dan, I agree with you, if he's not 100%, your hill just got a lot steeper. It's going to be a long series. And, if last night's game is any indication, a nail biter of Brodbinagian proportion. Not sure I can handle it. Up over and Harold. Here I am rooting for a perfect game and the Sox get 10 hits and plate 7 runs in the last 3 innings! I guess the only good that comes out of that is that the Sox have the aggravation of losing a close one rather than shrugging off a laugher. Either way, the Sox are very tough, but certainly much less so if Schilling doesn't sufficiently recover from his bad ankle. I expect Martinez to be extremely tough tonight especially because he will be ready to overcome that foolish "they're my daddy" comment. For me, the most frustrating moment of last night's game was Tanyon Sturtze serving a meatball to Varitek on an 0-2 pitch. That is my pet peeve. In the last decade or so, pitchers are far more willing to throw hittable pitches on 0-2 counts than when I first started watching baseball nearly 50 years ago. An 0-2 pitch should never be a strike, period! Ideally, it should be close enough so that the hitter might go after it in his eagerness to protect the plate. I can't fathom what the reasons are for a high strike fastball on 0-2 which is what Sturtze threw Varitek. I stormed around the house for a good 5 minutes after I saw that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Man with the Golden Arm Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Damn! that one was a complete montage of the Red Sox History and why the poor folks here in Boston weep. So how bad is Schilling's ankle? That was a nasty turn last week and who knows what he was pumped up on and how that might have affected his head that he so completely lost after the first. And I think Pedro is much more hated in NY than he is loved in Fenway at this point so putting him up away in the Bronx might fuel his ire more than a group hug. I hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 From today's Dallas Morning News, sure to piss off Red Sox fans of all... er, stripe: Forget curse: Red Sox can't beat Yankees by Gerry Fraley, staff writer for the Dallas Morning News 11:26 AM CDT on Wednesday, October 13, 2004 NEW YORK – The Boston Red Sox and their over-hyped "Curse of The Bambino" are the most annoying item in sports. More annoying than NBA public-address announcers. More annoying than players in any sport who point to the heavens when things go their way. A cottage industry has sprung up around the Red Sox and their failure to win the World Series since 1918. Intellectuals like to rhapsodize about the poor Red Sox still reeling from the trade of Babe Ruth to the evil empire known as the New York Yankees nearly 90 years ago. There have been sappy books and sappier cable television specials detailing how the fates have conspired against the beloved Red Sox. Business could be brisk again this winter. The Red Sox made a late challenge Tuesday night but lost, 10-7, to the Yankees in the opener of the American League Championship Series. That is nine losses for the Red Sox in 13 postseason games against the Yankees. More grist for the myth-making mill. Poor little Red Sox against the evil-empire Yankees. It's a snow job. Boston is in the playoffs for the eighth time since 1986. The Red Sox have been to the World Series twice since 1975. Tell Rangers backers that the Red Sox are cursed. The Rangers have won one playoff game in franchise history. Tell Chicago White Sox fans that the Red Sox are cursed. The White Sox have not been to the World Series since 1959. Tell Chicago Cubs fans ... well, forget about that. The Cubs have their own problems. This generation's Red Sox are a team that Texas football coach Mack Brown can get his arms around. The Red Sox have lots of talent and a penchant for falling apart when the big moment arrives. That self-destructive habit, which speaks to confidence rather than curses, showed itself again in the ALCS opener. Boston was in an ideal spot. The Red Sox started their World Series-tested ace, Curt Schilling. They stormed into Yankee Stadium with the momentum of a three-game sweep of Anaheim in an AL Division Series. The Yankees had the extra uncertainty of not knowing where their human security blanket, closer Mariano Rivera, was. He had returned, with permission, to his home in Panama for the funeral of two family members who were electrocuted Saturday and was flying back when the game began. Rivera walked into the bullpen during the fifth inning. Schilling lasted only three innings, allowing six runs. Before tiring in the seventh, Mussina sliced up a lineup that hit .302 with 25 runs in the sweep of the Angels. A curse had nothing to do with this. The Yankees still respond to the spotlight better than Boston. The Yankees play the big game better than Boston. The Red Sox know that. "The Yankees are a balanced ballclub," Boston first baseman Kevin Millar said. "They have phenomenal players, big-game players. People ask if we are the favorites. We're not the favorite. The New York Yankees are the team to beat." Millar said the Red Sox believe they have closed the gap by having Schilling and closer Keith Foulke. Neither was with the Red Sox last season, which ended in a loss to the Yankees in Game 7 of the ALCS. (As a proper reminder of that series, Boston's Tim Wakefield entered in the sixth inning and immediately allowed a homer by Kenny Lofton. Wakefield concluded last season's playoff series in this park by giving up a game-winning homer by Aaron "Bleeping" Boone.) The Yankees with Rivera still have a huge advantage at closer over any team. Schilling's performance was far below what he did for Arizona against the Yankees in the 2001 World Series. Schilling aggravated a sore right ankle in the Anaheim series, and the condition bothered his performance. He could not stay balanced in his delivery, and he lacked the lower-body drive needed to generate velocity. Boston manager Terry Francona started Schilling in the opener to avoid putting extra pressure on former ace Pedro Martinez. Like his team, Martinez tends to go to pieces against the Yankees. Since June 2000, the Yankees are 17-6 when Martinez starts against them. After another aggravating start against the Yankees in September, Martinez said to "call the Yankees my daddy." Forget "Curse of The Bambino." The catch phrase of this series is, "Who's your daddy?" For Boston, the answer remains, "the Yankees." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BERIGAN Posted October 13, 2004 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Robin Ventura is retiring...Remember when he was the hotshot rookie....just a few years back! http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2004...tory?id=1899106 Oh, and I switched the icon to a Got tired of seeing the tread look negative....I can't stay mad at baseball, that lug! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Schilling has a dislocated tendon and will require surgery. Officially, he's "doubtful" but according to Theo, if this were the regular season, he'd be in a cast. In the words of Charlton Heston, damn them all to the hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjazz Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 Talk about running the full gamut of emotions. Up 8-0 and I'm higher than a kite. Up 8-7 and I'm close to cardiac arrest. Then the mini-comeback, 4 outs from Rivera and that's that. Ya know, if Rivera didn't fly back, the Yankees probably would have lost that game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILLYQ Posted October 13, 2004 Report Share Posted October 13, 2004 I was watching the game last night, and I stayed up(I have to get up veeeery early for work) because Mussina was working on a perfect game. So I see he gives up a few hits, two runs, no biggie, it is 8-2. Wake up this morning, no radio, I buy the newspaper on the way to work, and 10-7? I nearly fell over. I think Schilling is done. He was only able to take the mound last night because he was shot up and his ankle was numb, but he's a power pitcher who needs his legs. His pitches were up a lot higher than usual, resulting in that poor outing last night. If it's a dislocated tendon, I don't think it will heal quickly so that he's close to normal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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