Big Al Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 On 2/7/2024 at 3:19 PM, clifford_thornton said: Andrew Hill "Grass Roots" with the alternate session on a second LP I'd buy this and wouldn't even gripe about the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 2 hours ago, JSngry said: I wonder what they used in 1975 for the paper bag first issue of the extras? Because whatever it was, those cuts sounded boxier than the OG 1957 LP. That's neither good nor bad, because it's a boxy room. But now I'm curious, because there we no credits on that set other than originally recorded by RVG and produced for release by MC. And Rudy was certainly around then. I also wonder what Rudy used to make the 7.5 ips reels, especially tape width. And if these old OG tapes have already been used, just how "virgin" are they? Questions aside, my curiosity has gotten the best of me and I'm in on this one. I am dubious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmce Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 16 hours ago, hbbfam said: Are there any other CD or download releases from this series? Can't speak to downloads, but no CDs. They still do new releases and first-release archival items (i.e. Blakey, Elvin Jones) on CD but catalog reissues are vinyl only. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pim Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 For some reason the Village Vanguard stuff never really spoke to me. Hard to tell why as I love Newk, like this period and most other people are so damn enthustiac about it. So I decided to stream them once again but still no 'click' here. Won't give up on them yet though. 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stompin at the Savoy Posted February 11 Report Share Posted February 11 I have the 1987 cds of this. Never got the RVG version. So I might upgrade if the sound turns out dramatically better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 The strangest thing happened the other day (interestingly it happened the same day the Org board was down): this was available for streaming on YouTube Music but it only lasted for a day because it's gone now. I'm not sure how or why it happened. I'm just glad I was able to listen to it for the brief time it was available. I don't know what magic Joe Harley & Co worked on these tapes but these performances sounded phenomenal! Almost like you were there at the Vanguard! I can only imagine how good this is going to sound on the actual LP or CD (I'm planning on getting the LP). I was on the fence about this release prior to hearing this what must now be called a "sneak preview." Having heard it now is like hearing it for the first time with clean ears. Prior to this, this album had never made an impression on me; the other day, I couldn't stop listening. It all clicked tremendously! So yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to this release now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 I'm anti-box set and audiophile reissues, and I generally prefer the "original" historic LP release to any expanded version. But this is one three record set in which I might actually invest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted February 15 Report Share Posted February 15 I buy jazz vinyl once or twice a year, on average. This might well be my first 2024 LP purchase. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted February 21 Report Share Posted February 21 Bailey shows up quite a bit in those Leftbank concert listings... That thread being up and the mention of Walt Namuth made me find another recording credit for the bass playing Donald Bailey ... https://www.discogs.com/de/release/8045466-Leslie-J-Schnierer-SJ-Ted-Hawk-Trio-The-Dawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranemonk Posted February 27 Report Share Posted February 27 On 2/7/2024 at 10:58 AM, hbbfam said: Hopefully this will also be available for download. I'd be in the download category. Not doing vinyl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Д.Д. Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 Available at amazon as CD: On Spotify too: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 13 minutes ago, Д.Д. said: Available at amazon as CD: On Spotify too: Good news indeed .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted April 26 Report Share Posted April 26 Ordered the LP set through my local shop, and looking forward to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunky Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 The sound is so good on the LP edition ( presumably CD too) because they used the tapes from the Vanguard rather than dubs created by Ruby immediately after the recording. Apparently the original 7.5ips tapes haven’t been used since then. The difference is startling to my ears Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 8 minutes ago, Clunky said: The sound is so good on the LP edition ( presumably CD too) because they used the tapes from the Vanguard rather than dubs created by Ruby immediately after the recording. Apparently the original 7.5ips tapes haven’t been used since then. The difference is startling to my ears Thnx for sharing your impressions .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiRiIII Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 18 minutes ago, Clunky said: The sound is so good on the LP edition ( presumably CD too) because they used the tapes from the Vanguard rather than dubs created by Ruby immediately after the recording. Apparently the original 7.5ips tapes haven’t been used since then. The difference is startling to my ears This is great. Thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbbfam Posted April 27 Report Share Posted April 27 I have the 2013 HD download. That version is fine, and more than acceptable. This new download is a little better. Fuller with more depth. Was it worth the upgrade. Perhaps. But now that I have the new release, I won't be listening to the older one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbbfam Posted April 29 Report Share Posted April 29 Usually I find suitable scans on discogs for my HD downloads (very occasionally they come with liner notes). I cannot find a scan of the back cover of the CD version of Sonny Vanguard. If anyone wants to post one or send me a PM with the scan, I would appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 The CD is quite vivid indeed. But I'm keeping the RVG as well, because it's sequenced in recording order (or so they say). That's an interesting flow on this gig. Besides, the Uncle Don thing didn't make it to the new version (why?) and I like hearing that (why?). So I will now have two editions on my shelf. It happens sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted May 1 Report Share Posted May 1 A/B - I do think this new one has a better sound. But the RVG just flows better. It feels like sets, because it (probably) is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunky Posted May 1 Report Share Posted May 1 13 minutes ago, JSngry said: A/B - I do think this new one has a better sound. But the RVG just flows better. It feels like sets, because it (probably) is I don't quite understand the sequencing choices in the new one. In the extensive documentation it would have been nice to summarise the order of recording and what titles were on the previous issues. Not a biggie but it would have been nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted May 1 Report Share Posted May 1 The new tapes in recording order and full announcements would have a definitive package. And would have made the RVG obsolete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Bresnahan Posted May 1 Report Share Posted May 1 6 hours ago, Clunky said: I don't quite understand the sequencing choices in the new one. In the extensive documentation it would have been nice to summarise the order of recording and what titles were on the previous issues. Not a biggie but it would have been nice. Joe Harley does post here occasionally so he might be able to confirm, but someone on the Hoffman forums said that they wanted to keep the original LP's 6 tracks in their original sequence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Russell Posted May 1 Report Share Posted May 1 On 4/26/2024 at 7:21 AM, Д.Д. said: Available at amazon as CD: On Spotify too: I have found this at YT Music as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted May 1 Report Share Posted May 1 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Kevin Bresnahan said: they wanted to keep the original LP's 6 tracks in their original sequence. I agree with that sentiment, nice to have the original album reproduced, then bonus tracks, if I must chose, but nice to have it both ways. In cases like the BN Hank Mobley's (No Room For Squares, The Turnaround, Straight No Chaser) and Jimmy Smith'd (The Sermon and House Party), where the original albums mixed sessions, the original CD's issued by session, and the RVG CD's reproduced the original albums with bonus tracks, I kept both the original CD's and the RVG CD's. Edited May 1 by felser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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