mjzee Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 Similar to Ellington In Order, Sony has begun releasing their owned recordings of Cab Calloway. Volume 1 is now available on Qobuz, covering 1932-33: https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/album/chronological-calloway-vol-1-1932-33-cab-calloway/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Steve Gray Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 Basie next please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 That would be great but a lot of important Basie is not on Columbia or RCA ( though a lot is). Is it possible on any of the streaming services to make a public playlist that takes from the existing ones and adds to them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 On Spotify, you could do just that provided that everything you need is on there... (I guess it's the same on other services) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 Listening to this now. First impression is that the band swings nicely, but the sound is, so far, very tinny. Is this the best it can be? Oh, where can I get personnel details for these sessions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 3 hours ago, Niko said: On Spotify, you could do just that provided that everything you need is on there... (I guess it's the same on other services) So you could do that with the Decca Ellingtons since Early Ellington seems to be there. I think they also have some grey area European issues that might have some of the Pathes etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Duckworth Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 2 hours ago, JSngry said: Listening to this now. First impression is that the band swings nicely, but the sound is, so far, very tinny. Is this the best it can be? Oh, where can I get personnel details for these sessions? Personnel and recording dates are essential for me. However if this is the way of the world, it would seem an opportune time to get the Benny Goodman (RCA and Columbia) catalogue remastered and released. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 3 Report Share Posted February 3 Sound quality improves as the set goes on, but...what label(s) did the first have or so of this collection? I would like to know who was in this early Calloway band. I only know of the later band with Chu, Hinton, and all them. This band here is pretty solid in its own right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stompin at the Savoy Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 (edited) Presto mentions these musicians for vol 1: Cab Calloway & His Orchestra, Charles L. Granata (director), Howard Fritzson (director), Cab Calloway & his Orchestra featuring Roy Smeck & Chuck Bullock, Roy Smeck, Chick Bullock, Arville Harris (alto saxophone, clarinet), Doc Cheatham (trumpet), Lammar Wright (trumpet), Edwin Swayzee (trumpet), Walter "Foots" Thomas (tenor saxophone, clarinet), Andrew Brown (bass clarinet, baritone saxophone, alto saxophone), Eddie Barefield (clarinet, baritone saxophone, alto saxophone), Cab Calloway (vocal, bandleader & vocals), Bennie Payne (piano), LeRoy Maxey (drums), Harry White (trombone), Morris White (banjo), De Priest Wheeler (trombone), The Mills Brothers & Cab Calloway with Don Redman & His Orchestra, The Mills Brothers, Cab Calloway and His Cotton Club Orchestra https://adp.library.ucsb.edu/index.php/mastertalent/detail/103488/Calloway_Cab Somebody will probably produce some notes for this pretty soon. Edited February 4 by Stompin at the Savoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 7 minutes ago, Stompin at the Savoy said: Presto mentions these musicians for vol 1: Cab Calloway & His Orchestra, Charles L. Granata (director), Howard Fritzson (director), Cab Calloway & his Orchestra featuring Roy Smeck & Chuck Bullock, Roy Smeck, Chick Bullock, Arville Harris (alto saxophone, clarinet), Doc Cheatham (trumpet), Lammar Wright (trumpet), Edwin Swayzee (trumpet), Walter "Foots" Thomas (tenor saxophone, clarinet), Andrew Brown (bass clarinet, baritone saxophone, alto saxophone), Eddie Barefield (clarinet, baritone saxophone, alto saxophone), Cab Calloway (vocal, bandleader & vocals), Bennie Payne (piano), LeRoy Maxey (drums), Harry White (trombone), Morris White (banjo), De Priest Wheeler (trombone), The Mills Brothers & Cab Calloway with Don Redman & His Orchestra, The Mills Brothers, Cab Calloway and His Cotton Club Orchestra Somebody will probably produce some otes for this pretty soon. Ok, thanks! Foots Thomas is a known, as are Barefield, Cheatham and Wright. No bassist listed though, which is a shame. Whoever this is deserves full credit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stompin at the Savoy Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 (edited) Some info here: https://musicbrainz.org/release/e7dc7e05-e4a0-4c51-a4c0-49356351abf1 https://musicbrainz.org/release/0f0affd0-c188-4ab2-bd65-6faedd76ff8d https://musicbrainz.org/release/82691ba5-937b-4ccd-ac1a-4f6db6ed6bd1 https://musicbrainz.org/release/fc5cf04e-820c-408a-a60c-f61b44502dbc (note: in the above entries from Chronological Classics and the JSP release, check the cover art, which often has very detailed discography) Al Morgan plays bass on probably all of it. Another player named Jimmy Smith may be on a few tracks. Edited February 4 by Stompin at the Savoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 Al Morgan is a new name to me, and slap bass of that sort might not(?) have been spectacular by the standards of the day, but that one just leaped out at me for whatever reason. Al Morgan!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stompin at the Savoy Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 (edited) There's good stuff on there, actually quite a bit better than I expected. Edited February 4 by Stompin at the Savoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Duckworth Posted February 4 Report Share Posted February 4 Cab Calloway started his orchestra by taking over the St. Louis band The Missourians who were an outstanding band and made some really good records on their own. I recommend them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 5 Report Share Posted February 5 1 hour ago, Jim Duckworth said: Cab Calloway started his orchestra by taking over the St. Louis band The Missourians who were an outstanding band and made some really good records on their own. I recommend them. Ah, that probably explains the already deep group feel! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmonahan Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 The JSPs remastered by Davies are more than good enough for me, and they start with pre-Columbia owned things in 1930. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 Are the tinny at all? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Beat Steve Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 (edited) On 2/4/2024 at 3:27 AM, JSngry said: Al Morgan is a new name to me, and slap bass of that sort might not(?) have been spectacular by the standards of the day, but that one just leaped out at me for whatever reason. Al Morgan!!! Putting a face to a name: 😉 Al Morgan was with the Condonites on various occasions in the early 40s (probably because he was a member of the Zutty Singleton trio at that time - Singleton is on drums in the first of the two C. Peterson pics below): Edited February 6 by Big Beat Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub Modal Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 On 2/3/2024 at 1:47 PM, medjuck said: That would be great but a lot of important Basie is not on Columbia or RCA ( though a lot is). Is it possible on any of the streaming services to make a public playlist that takes from the existing ones and adds to them? If I didn’t have to work for a living I’d absolutely make an effort to do this. These digital discographies of most jazz legends are a near complete clusterfuck and a lot of clean up is necessary. Good luck to anyone that makes the attempt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 17 hours ago, gmonahan said: The JSPs remastered by Davies are more than good enough for me, and they start with pre-Columbia owned things in 1930. I have those two JSP boxes as well... this thread may well inspire me to revisit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverM Posted February 6 Report Share Posted February 6 3 hours ago, ghost of miles said: this thread may well inspire me to revisit. It did for me (first JSP set), such great music and pretty good sound for music recorded 90 years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 (edited) On 2/4/2024 at 5:28 PM, Jim Duckworth said: Cab Calloway started his orchestra by taking over the St. Louis band The Missourians who were an outstanding band and made some really good records on their own. I recommend them. I thought I had those Missourians sides on CD… but apparently not? Has Frog or Jazz Oracle or Retrieval or some such ever tackled that material? Edited February 7 by ghost of miles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Beat Steve Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 (edited) 2 hours ago, ghost of miles said: I thought I had those Missourians sides on CD… but apparently not? Has Frog or Jazz Oracle or Retrieval or some such ever tackled that material? Discogs is your (tentative) friend: https://www.discogs.com/artist/1678801-The-Missourians?superFilter=Releases&subFilter=Compilations One CD on VMP, one on JSP. But with almost total overlaps. Edited February 7 by Big Beat Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Duckworth Posted February 7 Report Share Posted February 7 https://www.frog-records.co.uk/products/dgf69 This is the one you want, but I don't see it currently on Discogs. I find Frog reissues to be excellent and this one does not disappoint: it has early recordings including the most useful one they cut as Andy Preer's Cotton Club Orchestra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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