Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Posted
On 13-8-2022 at 8:43 PM, bresna said:

So this is one of those "almost embarrassed to say" posts. :)

I was reading a review of one of Art Tatum's group sessions recordings - the one with DeFranco - when I realized that I never got around to buying those group sessions. I've onwed and enjoyed the one with Ben Webster for years (on the XRCD) and I always planned to pick up the box set but never got around to it. So yesterday, I finally grabbed 4 or 5 of the group sessions. I'm actually looking forward to finally hearing them.

They are great, all of them. My favorites are the one with Webster, Benny Carter and Eldridge. But the one that tops them all for me is the trio session with Callender and Jones. Would loved to have heard Tatum play more in this kind of setting with bass and drums.

  • Replies 9.2k
  • Created
  • Last Reply

Top Posters In This Topic

Posted

I'm digging into Cleo Laine's back-catalog:

NC5qcGVn.jpeg

Cleo-Laine-Soliloquy.jpg

OTgtNDczNi5qcGVn.jpeg

Ny5qcGVn.jpeg

I think Laine and her husband, John Dankworth, made some interesting and unique music.  I like how they often used poetry as a jumping-off point.  Of course, that's been done many times before, but not exactly with their combination of ingredients.  Their music is not exactly jazz.  It's not exactly art songs.  It's not exactly theater singing or cabaret.  It's not exactly pop.  It's an odd-but-pleasing mix of all of them, particularly during their peak years. (And what exactly were those 'peak years'?  The 60s and early-70s, I think -- but I'm not sure.  That's something I'm figuring out now.)  Anyway, as someone who's just discovering their music, it's sideways and unexpected.  Good fun.

All of these LP were very inexpensive.  Apparently, Laine's stock isn't on the rise with others as much as it is with me. 

 

Posted
15 minutes ago, HutchFan said:

I'm digging into Cleo Laine's back-catalog:

NC5qcGVn.jpeg

Cleo-Laine-Soliloquy.jpg

OTgtNDczNi5qcGVn.jpeg

Ny5qcGVn.jpeg

I think Laine and her husband, John Dankworth, made some interesting and unique music.  I like how they often used poetry as a jumping-off point.  Of course, that's been done many times before, but not exactly with their combination of ingredients.  Their music is not exactly jazz.  It's not exactly art songs.  It's not exactly theater singing or cabaret.  It's not exactly pop.  It's an odd-but-pleasing mix of all of them, particularly during their peak years. (And what exactly were those 'peak years'?  The 60s and early-70s, I think -- but I'm not sure.  That's something I'm figuring out now.)  Anyway, as someone who's just discovering their music, it's sideways and unexpected.  Good fun.

All of these LP were very inexpensive.  Apparently, Laine's stock isn't on the rise with others as much as it is with me. 

 

Re your comment "their music is not exactly jazz", Dankworth and Laine had a big following in this country in the 60s. A colleague who heard me playing this

Cannonball_Adderley_Quintet_in_Chicago.j

remarked, "I don't like this neurotic jazz. I prefer Cleo Laine and John Dankworth". :lol:

Posted
2 hours ago, BillF said:

Re your comment "their music is not exactly jazz", Dankworth and Laine had a big following in this country in the 60s. A colleague who heard me playing this remarked, "I don't like this neurotic jazz. I prefer Cleo Laine and John Dankworth". :lol:

That's funny!  I never in a million years could imagine Cannonball's music as "neurotic"!  

 

Posted
20 minutes ago, HutchFan said:

That's funny!  I never in a million years could imagine Cannonball's music as "neurotic"!  

 

There's a deep and recurring undercurrent of class/race/etc conflicts/unfamilarities/insecurities/etc. in the "neurotic" comments such as that one, and it is still very much alive and well, not just in jazz, but everywhere we go here in the 21st Century. Sometimes there's even hostility attached to it, unwittingly or otherwise. And it goes the other way too.

Humans are their own worst enemies.

Posted
9 minutes ago, JSngry said:

There's a deep and recurring undercurrent of class/race/etc conflicts/unfamilarities/insecurities/etc. in the "neurotic" comments such as that one, and it is still very much alive and well, not just in jazz, but everywhere we go here in the 21st Century. Sometimes there's even hostility attached to it, unwittingly or otherwise. And it goes the other way too.

You'll get no disagreement from me on that.  But I would suggest that there's an element of laziness involved too.

It's like going to eat at restaurant specializing in a cuisine that's new to you.  It's different; therefore, it tastes "bad" -- even though you have no real understanding of it.  It's a sort of parochialism, and it's lazy.

By the way, I'm not suggesting that everyone should like everything.  I'm only suggesting that it's better to make informed judgments, approach things with an element of openness and curiosity.  Some things will "take," and some things won't.  But, in either case, we won't be making judgments based on complete ignorance.

Calling Cannonball "neurotic"?  That's ignorant.

 

Posted

I put laziness and ignorance in the same taxonomy. And somewhere in there is fear.

I mean, it's one thing to not like something. It's another to not like it AND not own your dislike AND the (bonus points!!!) recognize that hey, what's behind all of this.

Adjective are too often projectiles of projections!

  • 1 month later...
Posted (edited)

FDFFABB5-A55-D-4-C24-B674-5858-B5-D74514

F9920-BEF-FF46-4-E8-E-AB7-E-2-DFC01-C45-

215-B896-A-69-B9-42-AD-850-C-CCAC7-BD587

with the ridiculous vinyl prices these days (especially in Europe) I changed my buying strategies. Buying on Discogs for quite a while I’ve noticed a few things about Japanese sellers:

1. Their prices are realistic and way lower than European sellers. Both MJQ’s and Powell cost me 5 dollars where EU sellers dare to ask 20+ euros for these records.

2. They tend to undergrade the condition instead of overgrade them. The vinyl is always in better condition then described and so are the jackets.

3. The overall quality of the pressings is great and the condition of the stuff is almost NM even if we’re talking about ‘70’s pressings. 
 

During spring and summer days I don’t listen a lot of music and the temperature in my special jazz room is way too high. What I do is set aside a small amount of money during those months. Now the days are getting darker and colder I am listening a lot of music again and I am in my room as much as possible. So ordered a big amount of LPs from a single Japanese seller. With a 50 dollar flat shipping rate, shipment costs were okay for shipping this amount of LP’s. Even including the tax and import duties, this is a way cheaper option then buying them seperately from expensive and overgrading EU sellers. So I will be saving money now again until January and make a new big order celebrating a new year :)

I already had this music on cd but these are all 4,5 and 5 star records for me and I like to have them on vinyl. 
 

Edited by Pim
  • 3 weeks later...
Posted
1 hour ago, Rabshakeh said:

PXL_20221022_192717658.jpg

A nice selection of records I've been wanting for ages. From The Little Record shop in Hornsey, which I believe is round by @mjazzg's.

It is indeed, my local.

Three crackers there, that's for sure. Just checking my shelves to make sure my copies are still there...

  • 3 weeks later...
Posted
[IMG] 
On a hug record fair in Den Bosch. Always thought it was some kind of rule that sellers would tell you if a record was severely damaged. Had a copie of Bill Evans Waltz for Debby and Cannonballs Black Messiah in hands for a pretty high price. Glad I decided to double check the vinyl as it was full of scratches.

I think I’ll listen to the JCO record first and then try get back to my senses with the Chet Baker album 
Posted
On 11/14/2022 at 12:05 AM, mjazzg said:

'Ballad Of The Fallen ' very, very special record. Enjoy

Yeah I love that record, maybe even more than the original LMO. Just had to get it on my favorite format. And for 10 euros I could not resist. 

Posted
6 minutes ago, Pim said:

Yeah I love that record, maybe even more than the original LMO. Just had to get it on my favorite format. And for 10 euros I could not resist. 

10 euros?!  That's almost a crime to sell it so cheaply 😲 Great bargain for you though, nice one!

  • 2 weeks later...
Posted (edited)

I just ordered these 12 CDs from a favorite Discogs vendor:

- Luis Bonilla - I Talking Now! (Planet Arts/Now Jazz Consortium)
- William Cepeda & Grupo Afro Boricua - Bombazo (Blue Jackel)
- Francisco Mário - Retratos / Conversa de Cordas, Couros, Palhetas e Metais (Milestone/Caju)
- Diane Moser - Birdsongs (Planet Arts)
- Milton Nascimento - Miltons (Columbia)
- Scott Tixier - Cosmic Adventure (Sunnyside)

- Bruckner: Symphony No. 7 / Bruno Walter, Columbia Symphony Orchestra (Sony Classical)
- Debussy: Images; Études / Pierre-Laurent Aimard (Warner Classics)
- Granados: Alicia De Larrocha Plays Granados and Others (MCA Classics, 2 CDs) 
- Roussel: Symphonies Nos. 1 "Le Poème De La Forêt" and 3 / Charles Dutoit, ON de France (Erato)
- Schumann: Phantasiestücke; Blumenstück; Davidsbündlertänze / Vladimir Ashkenazy (Decca)
- Strauss: Don Quixote (with P. Fournier); Hornkonzert No. 2 (with N. Hauptmann) / Herbert von Karajan, BPO (DG)
 

As the cost of used vinyl continues to rise, the cost of used CDs keep falling.  So there are some amazing deals to be had out there.  The total for all of these (including shipping & tax) was $32.  :g

 

Edited by HutchFan

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    • No registered users viewing this page.

×
×
  • Create New...