Don Byas Mosaic set available for pre-order

[porcy62]

49 minutes ago, EKE BBB said:

I am afraid I was too optimistic. 😔

The package arrived yesterday, with a notice to pay VAT under a very odd procedure: the guy from FedEx left a bank current account number (without any bank account holder reference), written by hand on a piece of paper, so that I can make a bank transfer of €40-something to pay VAT. He also provided a phone number to send the bank transfer document via WhatsApp.

I wasn't at home when the parcel arrived, so I could not make any of the obvious questions. If I had not received the parcel with the set as well (still unopened from my side), I would have thought this was scam.

Are you sure it isn’t a scam? I got several email from FedEx with a direct link to their website where I payed the fee with PayPal, the procedure you described isn’t clear at all.

[EKE BBB]

11 minutes ago, porcy62 said:

Are you sure it isn’t a scam? I got several email from FedEx with a direct link to their website where I payed the fee with PayPal, the procedure you described isn’t clear at all.

Thanks for the alert! Of course, I haven't sent the bank transfer yet. I had planned to make a call to that phone number to get the needed clarifications. No additional emails from FedEx yet. In the tracking feature of their website, the package is shown as "delivered" and the process closed. So strange! 

Edited December 21, 2023 by EKE BBB

[porcy62]

Just now, EKE BBB said:

Thanks for the alert! Of course, I haven't sent the bank transfer yet. I had planned to make a call to that phone number to get the needed clarifications. No additional emails from FedEx yet. In the tracking feature of their website, the package is shown as the delivered and the process closed. So strange! 

Usually after paying I got a physical invoice in my mail box after two weeks. Strange you don’t have any email.

[king ubu]

I had my bill from Fedex (ca. 35€) in the mailbox today, about 2 weeks after delivery of the box ... as usual. Also I hate that Mosaic are using Fedex, as they have no delivery options other than you have to be home (which luckily I was on that day ... but I've had a few ridiculous Fedex deliveries in the past year - they're basically operating without any of the usual service option, no depositing when I'm not there, no pick-up other than about 5 points in the entire country, all around airports or freight hubs ... no option if you don't drive, and even then that would be a hassle).

So far only played through semi-attentively the first two discs from the middle block (Rosenkrantz plus a bit of live material) - and loved what I heard.

Edited December 21, 2023 by king ubu

[John L]

12 hours ago, JSngry said:

It's "Candy" that has been elusive to me for far too long. Not even the old Atlantic 2-fers had it. But maybe I just missed it? 

For me too.  A lot of reissues included either I Got Rhythm or Indiana.   But Candy is scarce.  

[Д.Д.]

7 hours ago, EKE BBB said:

Thanks for the alert! Of course, I haven't sent the bank transfer yet. I had planned to make a call to that phone number to get the needed clarifications. No additional emails from FedEx yet. In the tracking feature of their website, the package is shown as "delivered" and the process closed. So strange! 

Well, physical delivery and VAT payments are different things, no contradiction here. If you google that IBAN you will probably see if it belongs to FedEx, tax authorities or somebody else. 

Don't know how FedEx does it here, but DHL sends you an email with import declaration and payment link before the package is delivered. For this to work, Mosaic has to provide them with your email, which they probably do not! If Mosaic really gave a fuck had more resources they could actually arrange collecting VAT at the moment of purchase - this can be arranged in cooperation with couriers. This simplifies the process for the customer and there are no rip-off courier "processing" fees upon delivery of the goods. 

Anyway, I am getting my set from Jazz Messengers, shipped the same day I ordered it (which is today), good service as always.          

Edited December 21, 2023 by Д.Д.

[Clunky]

20 hours ago, Д.Д. said:

Well, physical delivery and VAT payments are different things, no contradiction here. If you google that IBAN you will probably see if it belongs to FedEx, tax authorities or somebody else. 

Don't know how FedEx does it here, but DHL sends you an email with import declaration and payment link before the package is delivered. For this to work, Mosaic has to provide them with your email, which they probably do not! If Mosaic really gave a fuck had more resources they could actually arrange collecting VAT at the moment of purchase - this can be arranged in cooperation with couriers. This simplifies the process for the customer and there are no rip-off courier "processing" fees upon delivery of the goods. 

Anyway, I am getting my set from Jazz Messengers, shipped the same day I ordered it (which is today), good service as always.          

another curse of Brexit ... I recently paid VAT twice  on ordering and to get DHL to deliver. It was darkroom materials from Dublin. Over a month later I'm still waiting to see if I'll get the second set of VAT back. 

[EKE BBB]

20 hours ago, Д.Д. said:

Well, physical delivery and VAT payments are different things, no contradiction here. If you google that IBAN you will probably see if it belongs to FedEx, tax authorities or somebody else. 

Don't know how FedEx does it here, but DHL sends you an email with import declaration and payment link before the package is delivered. For this to work, Mosaic has to provide them with your email, which they probably do not! If Mosaic really gave a fuck had more resources they could actually arrange collecting VAT at the moment of purchase - this can be arranged in cooperation with couriers. This simplifies the process for the customer and there are no rip-off courier "processing" fees upon delivery of the goods. 

Anyway, I am getting my set from Jazz Messengers, shipped the same day I ordered it (which is today), good service as always.          

Clarified. VAT payed to FedEx. Last time I order directly from Mosaic.

[sidewinder]

1 hour ago, Clunky said:

another curse of Brexit ... I recently paid VAT twice  on ordering and to get DHL to deliver. It was darkroom materials from Dublin. Over a month later I'm still waiting to see if I'll get the second set of VAT back. 

Surely in the case of the Byas set you pay VAT and handling charges in the EU and the UK, irrespective of Brexit?

Edited December 22, 2023 by sidewinder

[OliverM]

Got this through jazzmessengers, should be here next week!

[mjzee]

There's an interesting tension between the booklet (where the sessions are listed in chronological order) and the discs (which are separated by licensing source: Savoy, Timme Rosenkrantz archive, other labels).  After I listen to the whole box (I just finished disc 2), I'm thinking of rearranging the discs to conform to strict chronological order, just to see if that gives a more satisfying or illuminating listen.

[John L]

14 hours ago, mjzee said:

There's an interesting tension between the booklet (where the sessions are listed in chronological order) and the discs (which are separated by licensing source: Savoy, Timme Rosenkrantz archive, other labels).  After I listen to the whole box (I just finished disc 2), I'm thinking of rearranging the discs to conform to strict chronological order, just to see if that gives a more satisfying or illuminating listen.

Yes, I was a bit surprised in how they organized it.  I can certainly understand separating the Rosenkrantz material from the commercial recordings, particularly as the vast majority of the former are from mid-late 1944.   But why separate Savoy and other labels in the ordering?  

Edited December 27, 2023 by John L

[mikeweil]

The companies owning the rights are afraid of losing their corporate identity when material they own is intermingled with that of other companies. Mosaic had the same problem with the Lester Young /Count Basie box - they had to place all the SONY/BMG material on one separate disc. 

3 hours ago, John L said:

Yes, I was a bit surprised in how they organized it.  I can certainly understand separating the Rosenkrantz material from the commercial recordings, particularly as the vast majority of the former are from mid-late 1944.   But why separate Savoy and other labels in the ordering?  

 

[jazzbo]

Similar presentation in the Illinois Jacquet box if I am not mistaken. It has never really been off-putting for me.

[mjzee]

1 hour ago, mikeweil said:

The companies owning the rights are afraid of losing their corporate identity when material they own is intermingled with that of other companies. Mosaic had the same problem with the Lester Young /Count Basie box - they had to place all the SONY/BMG material on one separate disc. 

 

It’s possible Mosaic pays the licensor per disc.  It’s even possible the licensor presses their discs and ships them to Mosaic.

[Fred]

I'm the only one who don't see a new post from dec., 27?

[Niko]

I see six posts from December 27, the first from OliverM, the last from mjzee... no idea what you see or if you're special in that regard

[Brad]

There are no new posts after December 27. 

[Niko]

2 minutes ago, Brad said:

There are no new posts after December 27. 

Russell's antinomy right there... (I count three posts after December 27, or four if I include this one)

[Brad]

3 hours ago, Niko said:

Russell's antinomy right there... (I count three posts after December 27, or four if I include this one)

Discounting the ones in 2024.

[OliverM]

Just received. Most exciting release for me perhaps since the Coleman Hawkins box set, for the anticipation part. On to listening, and perfect, the week-end is here!

Edited January 5 by OliverM

[Jazzcat28]

I believe someone said they had called Mosaic to place an order since it is showing as out of stock on the website. When you called were you able to place an order over the phone? I'm interested in the set and would like to get the discount that is available on the set. Any insight would be appreciated.

[RiRiIII]

My #0731 set just arrived from Barcelona. I am playing the 1st disc. Magnificent.

[Stompin at the Savoy]

7 hours ago, Jazzcat28 said:

I believe someone said they had called Mosaic to place an order since it is showing as out of stock on the website. When you called were you able to place an order over the phone? I'm interested in the set and would like to get the discount that is available on the set. Any insight would be appreciated.

The website says:

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We expect back in stock after the New Year
and we will offer at sale price for a limited time.

https://www.mosaicrecords.com/product/classic-don-byas-sessions/

So keep an eye on the website and order when the next batch becomes available.  Maybe create an id on the mosaic shop and sign up for email notifications...

[medjuck]

Anyone have any idea how many were in the first pressing?