romualdo Posted Thursday at 03:11 AM Report Share Posted Thursday at 03:11 AM 1 hour ago, tranemonk said: Sounds like you're saying the Byas set is a better/more important/ buy than the Vanguard. Is that right? My sole hesitation is how I felt with the Chu Berry set. Rare, had to get it, only listened to it once. Definitely go for the Byas box - that was one of my most desired Mosaic sets prior to release (up there with Lucky Thompson & Wardell Gray which unfortunately havn't transpired though the Select series almost produced a Lucky set) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranemonk Posted Thursday at 12:21 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 12:21 PM 10 hours ago, JSngry said: That would be my personal assessment, yes. I think Byas was tremendously important and consistently enjoyable. And by definition, more "modern" than the Chu. Having said that those Vanguard records are certainly enjoyable or better. And there will, again by definition, have a variety of solo voices. Is it fair to say when listening to the Mosaic samples of the Byas, he does sound similar (at first listen) to Coleman Hawkins? I don't have any Byas and from what I read, there was a relationship between the two. But this will sound like a stupid question but how different do they actually sound (Byas and Hawkins)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted Thursday at 02:15 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 02:15 PM 1 hour ago, tranemonk said: Is it fair to say when listening to the Mosaic samples of the Byas, he does sound similar (at first listen) to Coleman Hawkins? I don't have any Byas and from what I read, there was a relationship between the two. But this will sound like a stupid question but how different do they actually sound (Byas and Hawkins)? I’d say that Byas hits that sweet middle spot between Hawkins and Webster - forceful like Hawkins but can modulate his tone and be more tender like Webster. He’s also more flexible, not as rhythmically dogmatic as Hawkins. I find him a more interesting player than Hawk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted Thursday at 04:28 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 04:28 PM Yeah, Byas had a more expensive flow and was right at home with the earliest "beboppers". I love all these guy, Hawk. Chu, Byas, master tenor players all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted Thursday at 05:32 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 05:32 PM 1 hour ago, JSngry said: Yeah, Byas had a more expensive flow and was right at home with the earliest "beboppers". I love all these guy, Hawk. Chu, Byas, master tenor players all. THIS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted Thursday at 06:15 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 06:15 PM 5 hours ago, tranemonk said: Is it fair to say when listening to the Mosaic samples of the Byas, he does sound similar (at first listen) to Coleman Hawkins? I don't have any Byas and from what I read, there was a relationship between the two. But this will sound like a stupid question but how different do they actually sound (Byas and Hawkins)? YouTube has a number of tracks from the Savoy twofer "Savoy Jam Party;" you can listen to those to get a taste. I believe all of the "Savoy Jam Party" twofer is on the Mosaic box. One interesting aspect of the Mosaic box is that a good part of Byas's output was in 3-minute sides; the Mosaic box gives you an opportunity to hear him stretch out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted Thursday at 06:48 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 06:48 PM This is a permanent classic: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted Thursday at 08:32 PM Report Share Posted Thursday at 08:32 PM I threw on Byas' "Ballads for Swingers" (Montmartre recordings) while eating lunch and man, what captivating solos he had at that time. Well, any time really, but 60s Byas is quite heavy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted yesterday at 12:51 AM Report Share Posted yesterday at 12:51 AM This recording (which I had a hand in) was made during a pair of shows with 3 tenors. Byas had a beef with Prestige and wouldn't let us roll tape when he played. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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