Teasing the Korean Posted September 16, 2023 Report Posted September 16, 2023 Anyone familiar with this LP? I have the Verve VSOP reissue, titled Little David's Fugue, which reshuffles the tracks, but appears to include the entire thing. Sadly, my copy is electronically reprocessed stereo. Any thoughts on this album? Quote
JSngry Posted September 17, 2023 Report Posted September 17, 2023 I remember hearing it once, finding it interesting, and then never bothering with it again. But at least that one time was interesting? Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted September 17, 2023 Author Report Posted September 17, 2023 19 minutes ago, JSngry said: I remember hearing it once, finding it interesting, and then never bothering with it again. But at least that one time was interesting? Thanks. It has been sitting in the massive "to be cleaned" section forever. That's changing tomorrow. I'll report back. Quote
sgcim Posted September 17, 2023 Report Posted September 17, 2023 Aaron Sachs was on that album, so I asked him about it. He said he was sitting there practicing Bach on the flute, and everyone else was getting high or something on the break. Then John Lewis asked him what he was doing, and he told him. John Lewis thought about it for a second and said, "Yeah, maybe I should try that some time!", as if it never occurred to him before... Quote
B. Clugston Posted September 17, 2023 Report Posted September 17, 2023 I really like this album. Nice solos from Tony Scott, Lucky Thompson and Stan Getz. Some great writing and arranging, but just enough jazz and swing not to scare everyone away. The Verve Elite Edition CD has some interesting alternates and extras. Quote
mikeweil Posted September 17, 2023 Report Posted September 17, 2023 For a John Lewis fan, essential stuff. The notes in the VSOP reissue booklet are enlightening for the context of this music. Quote
Peter Friedman Posted September 17, 2023 Report Posted September 17, 2023 A good album with interesting arrangements by John Lewis and fine solos by Lucky Thompson and Stan Getz.. Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted September 17, 2023 Author Report Posted September 17, 2023 Thanks, all! This is getting a scrub on the Nitty Gritty today, and will get spun, probably while preparing linguine with white clam sauce, with trumpet mushrooms in the role of the clams. (I'm veg.) I'll report back. Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted September 17, 2023 Author Report Posted September 17, 2023 Listening now. The stereo re-channeling is not bad, as these things go. "Little David's Fugue" is really nice. Quote
Guy Berger Posted September 18, 2023 Report Posted September 18, 2023 This is an enjoyable one. I picked it up because of Getz! Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted September 18, 2023 Report Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) Amazing ... I just checked and noticed I actually own a Verve original of this very LP (MG V 8131). Don't remember where and when I bought it but I must have bought it not only because it was very affordable (vinyl is fine and shiny but cover has pretty bad water staining) but also for Stan Getz, above all, and in fact everyone EXCEPT John Lewis. Will put it on my "spin next" stack now. So thanks for bringing this up, TTK! But this ... "Aaron Sachs was on that album, so I asked him about it. He said he was sitting there practicing Bach on the flute, and everyone else was getting high or something on the break. Then John Lewis asked him what he was doing, and he told him. John Lewis thought about it for a second and said, "Yeah, maybe I should try that some time!", as if it never occurred to him before..." ... OUCH! Edited September 18, 2023 by Big Beat Steve Quote
Peter Friedman Posted September 18, 2023 Report Posted September 18, 2023 I purchased the LP of this music in the 1950's. Disposed of the LP when I picked up the CD (with 3 extra tracks) in 1999. According to Gunther Schuller, this is the first recording of "Third Stream Music". It was Schuller and John Lewis who are regarded as the initiators of "Third Stream Music". Just Listened to my CD of this music after not playing it for quite a few years. Particularly impressive, to me, were the wonderful solos(on some of the tracks) by Lucky Thompson. It seems that the arrangements of the music on the album have never been performed again. It was a pleasure for me to listen to this album after a number of years. Quote
ghost of miles Posted September 18, 2023 Report Posted September 18, 2023 I have the Verve Elite reissue, but I haven't listened to it in many years. Thanks for bringing it up--I'll dust it off and give it a spin. Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted September 18, 2023 Report Posted September 18, 2023 (edited) My impressions after a first re-listen (by one who has never found much in Third Stream as I still consider it a dead end of in the long run incompatible genres if your preference is to see the full vitality and swing of jazz preserved, even in its coolest forms): It's an interesting exercise but the horn men (as opposed to woodwinds) really make the difference and bring it off. (And yes, Lucky Thompson is impressive in this setting. And Little David's Fugue is nice.) These soloists may well have triggered my buying decision: "Let's give it a shot and see what John Lewis does if he has to accommodate jazz horns" Otherwise I find some of the classical/third-streamish sections a bit lengthy (though if you take them as somewhat special mood pieces ... ). And the "Swenglish" Midsömmer title is and remains silly (or should I say inept, particularly for an erudite composer?) if the composer wants to convey that "Swedish holiday" feeling as per the liner notes. It's either "midsommar" (Swedish) or "midsummer". Edited September 18, 2023 by Big Beat Steve Quote
Peter Friedman Posted September 18, 2023 Report Posted September 18, 2023 I am generally not a fan of Third Stream Music, but this strikes me as far more a jazz recording than some of the other Third Stream albums I have heard. As for the title of"Midsommer", what you said seems to me, both much too picky and actually "who cares". Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted September 19, 2023 Report Posted September 19, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, Peter Friedman said: As for the title of "Midsommer", what you said seems to me, both much too picky and actually "who cares". I know and I understand. But as always - if you do it, why not do it right? BTW, according to the jacket - and yes, contrary to contemporary reviews - the title IS "Midsömmer", as if Lewis figured an "umlaut" makes it look more "foreign". Why, I wonder ... But I realize this picky criticism comes from a non-Anglosaxon angle. Edited September 19, 2023 by Big Beat Steve Quote
mjzee Posted September 19, 2023 Report Posted September 19, 2023 Re "Midsömmer," John Lewis's liner notes state: "The title and inspiration is from the Swedish summer holiday and festival." Quote
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