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2 hours ago, Steve Gray said:

Volume 8 is available. now, on Amazon music at least and I assume another platforms

I am so glad  that the series  hasn't been abandoned

Very happy about this too.  One thing puzzles me: the previous volumes were available as either cd quality or hi res.  But volume 8 seems to be only cd quality.  I guess I will wait a bit and see if the hi res files become available.

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On 7/5/2024 at 6:57 AM, Stompin at the Savoy said:

Very happy about this too.  One thing puzzles me: the previous volumes were available as either cd quality or hi res.  But volume 8 seems to be only cd quality.  I guess I will wait a bit and see if the hi res files become available.

There's now an interesting posting about this on the Hoffman boards.  CraigVC posted this:

Somehow I'd not been aware of Volumes 1-7 of that series (all of which appear on Qobuz in high-resolution, so it's odd that Volume 8 is "only" 44.1/16). Ellington is one of the giants; I have a lot of catching up to do.
 
 

And Simon A just replied:

Hi Craig,

I've asked Tim about this. Here's his reply:

"As we move deeper into the Duke catalog - at this point - we can rely exclusively on the original 16 bit Mosaic digital sources - with just a touch of ‘cleanup’. 

Perhaps down the line we can look to delivering in Hi-Rez - but for now - it’s the exercise of simply making them available officially in good sonic condition."



The Discogs page for the release gives us these credits for the 2006 Mosaic set.

Mastered By – Kurt Lundvall
Transferred By – Steven Lasker
Restoration – Steven Lasker

 

This begs an interesting question: Does Sony own Mosaic's mastering work for Mosaic's box?  Or did Mosaic, in effect, contract with Sony to do the mastering for Mosaic's box?

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1 hour ago, mjzee said:

There's now an interesting posting about this on the Hoffman boards.  CraigVC posted this:

Somehow I'd not been aware of Volumes 1-7 of that series (all of which appear on Qobuz in high-resolution, so it's odd that Volume 8 is "only" 44.1/16). Ellington is one of the giants; I have a lot of catching up to do.
 
 

And Simon A just replied:

Hi Craig,

I've asked Tim about this. Here's his reply:

"As we move deeper into the Duke catalog - at this point - we can rely exclusively on the original 16 bit Mosaic digital sources - with just a touch of ‘cleanup’. 

Perhaps down the line we can look to delivering in Hi-Rez - but for now - it’s the exercise of simply making them available officially in good sonic condition."



The Discogs page for the release gives us these credits for the 2006 Mosaic set.

Mastered By – Kurt Lundvall
Transferred By – Steven Lasker
Restoration – Steven Lasker

 

This begs an interesting question: Does Sony own Mosaic's mastering work for Mosaic's box?  Or did Mosaic, in effect, contract with Sony to do the mastering for Mosaic's box?

The Mosaic masters appear to always revert to the owners of the works.  Quite a few from different companies have been issued as digital releases.

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On 7/5/2024 at 4:57 AM, Stompin at the Savoy said:

Very happy about this too.  One thing puzzles me: the previous volumes were available as either cd quality or hi res.  But volume 8 seems to be only cd quality.  I guess I will wait a bit and see if the hi res files become available.

They're downloadable!?  I didn't realize that.  

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41 minutes ago, medjuck said:

They're downloadable!?  I didn't realize that.  

Amazon sells them as mp3's.  I understand Qobuz has them with higher fidelity, but I find the mp3's are just fine.

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Volume 8 is all items covered by the two Mosaic 30's Ellington sets. I understand Volume 8 is basically the same masters as the Mosaics.  So instead of buying volume 8 I made a playlist from the Mosaics to simulate vol 8. 

Here is a cross reference between the two.

small = Duke Ellington - Complete 36-40 small group 
orch  = Duke Ellington - The Complete 1932-1940 Brunswick-Columbia Master   Recordings of Duke Ellington and His Famous Orchestra

Numerals = disk# . track#


orch 7.7-8

Caravan        
Azure


small 2.18-26

Foolin' Myself (Take 2) vBCk       
Foolin' Myself (Take 1) vBCk       
A Sailboat In The Moonlight (Take 2) vBCk      
A Sailboat In The Moonlight (Take 1) vBCk      
You'll Never Go To Heaven (Take 2) vBCk       
You'll Never Go To Heaven (Take 1) vBCk       
Peckin' (Take 3) vCW         
Peckin' (Take 2) vCW         
Peckin' (Take 3) vCW         


orch 7.9-11, 7.19-21

All God's Chillun Got Rhythm (Take 2)
All God's Chillun Got Rhythm (Take 1)
All God's Chillun Got Rhythm (Take 2) vIA, RS, HC, HA        
All God's Chillun Got Rhythm (Take 1) vIA, RS, HC, HA        
Alabamy Home (Take 2) vIA         
Alabamy Home (Take 1) vIA         

 

small 3.1-8

Get It Southern Style (Alternate Take) vSMi      
Get It Southern Style vSMi            
Moonlight Fiesta     
Moonlight Fiesta (Alternate Take)           
Sponge Cake And Spinach (Alternate Take)    
Sponge Cake And Spinach          
If You're Ever In My Arms Again (Alternate Take) vSMi        
If You're Ever In My Arms Again vSMi  


small 3.9-17


Back Room Romp (Alternate Take)        
Back Room Romp  
Swing, Baby, Swing (Love In My Heart) (Alternate Take)     
Swing, Baby, Swing (Love In My Heart)
Sugar Hill Shim-Sham (Alternate Take)
Sugar Hill Shim-Sham       
Tea And Trumpets (Alternate Take)
Tea And Trumpets (Alternate Take 2)
Tea And Trumpets


orch 7.12-13, 8.1-4, 8.16-20


Chatterbox   
Jubilesta       
Diminuendo In Blue (Alternate Take)      
Diminuendo In Blue            
Crescendo In Blue (Alternate Take)        
Crescendo In Blue
Harmony In Harlem (Rehearsal Take)  
Harmony In Harlem           
Harmony In Harlem (Alternate Take)     
Dusk On The Desert          
Dusk On The Desert (Alternate Take)    

 
small 3.18-20


Jubilesta       
Watchin' vJK            
Pigeons And Peppers       
I Can't Give You Anything But Love     

 

Ian has once again created a discography for vol 8:  https://ellingtonlive.blogspot.com/2024/07/discography-ellington-in-order-volume-8.html

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