medjuck Posted June 17, 2023 Report Posted June 17, 2023 I can't find the original announcement online but I've read references to Sony releasing every take of every Ellington recording they control (including the RCAs) to streaming services with a new volume each month. The first one ("Ellington in Order, vol.1") is already up. Anyone here have more or better information? Quote
hopkins Posted June 17, 2023 Report Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) I could not find more information. I find it's a nice idea, as it is convenient to have these early dates with different labels in one compilation. I just wish they had the dates in the track titles. The credits on Qobuz give the musicians per track, but not the dates. I quickly compared the sound quality on a few tracks, and it sounds identical to the Centennial box set. Edited June 17, 2023 by hopkins Quote
hopkins Posted June 17, 2023 Report Posted June 17, 2023 (edited) Yes, also on Spotify (minus some credits) https://open.spotify.com/album/4ornuDeqxrpKPMnh5zKxNN?si=zDdZcksuSK-JpZOnlaDwyA&context=spotify%3Aalbum%3A4ornuDeqxrpKPMnh5zKxNN Steven Lasker is credited as the reissue producer. Perhaps someone can reach out to him for more specifics. Edited June 17, 2023 by hopkins Quote
miles65 Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 This compilation covers CD 1 and 2 up to track 4 of the big RCA box and CD 1tracks 1-19 of the Okeh Ellington. Leaving out the alternate take of Black and Tan Fantasy. Also the Pathé and Plaza group sessions are missing. In total 15 tracks are missing. Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 (edited) I wonder if releasing these tracks to streaming services and therefore to a potentially new audience will increase the ultimate appeal of "tangible product" of the Ellington recordings as well. I've found Ellington secondhand vinyl is among the slower sellers of jazz from the Swing era. Not only in my own crate of LP duplicates but also in secondhand shops. Sometimes extremely so: The other day I perused the "budget of the budget" sale corner (each LP priced at 1 EUR only) in our preferred local record shop, and in the midst of a random assortment of LPs from all genres there sits (and has been sitting for some time) what must be virtually the complete 24-LP series of the "The Works of the Duke" Duke Ellington LP series on French RCA (probably the equivalent of what was referred to above as the "big RCA box"). A steal at that price for the vinyl-minded ... As they are scattered across several crates I've half a mind of arranging them in their proper order inside one of these crates next time I drop by there - just to increase possible awareness of other browsers ... Edited June 18, 2023 by Big Beat Steve Quote
Stompin at the Savoy Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 It's kind of an interesting development. Qobuz claims these are hi resolution files. Presumably that means more detailed than cd quality. Quote
Dub Modal Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 Great news. Been streaming for a while now and Ellington’s digital catalog on those platforms is an absolute mess. This will help at least a little bit. Quote
Jim Duckworth Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 7 hours ago, miles65 said: This compilation covers CD 1 and 2 up to track 4 of the big RCA box and CD 1tracks 1-19 of the Okeh Ellington. Leaving out the alternate take of Black and Tan Fantasy. Also the Pathé and Plaza group sessions are missing. In total 15 tracks are missing. Is the Okeh material remastered? That would be quite welcome. Quote
mikeweil Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 If there isn't anything that was not on the OKeh twofer or the Centennial box, I'll pass. Quote
JSngry Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 There's nothing to pass on. It's streaming, for free, like a radio station, only you pick the records. Quote
Stompin at the Savoy Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 1 hour ago, JSngry said: There's nothing to pass on. It's streaming, for free, like a radio station, only you pick the records. Well not really free, except in lower res on Spotify or similar. On a site like Qobuz, you can stream if you have some sort of paid membership or you can download for a price. Quote
Daniel A Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 26 minutes ago, Stompin at the Savoy said: Well not really free, except in lower res on Spotify or similar. On a site like Qobuz, you can stream if you have some sort of paid membership or you can download for a price. To me, the "lo-res" is definitely enough for recordings from the 1920s. Thanks for the tip! Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 7 hours ago, Big Beat Steve said: I wonder if releasing these tracks to streaming services and therefore to a potentially new audience will increase the ultimate appeal of "tangible product" of the Ellington recordings as well. I think anything recorded prior to the hi-fi era has a big strike against it at the outset, regardless of musical/cultural/historical value. Quote
JSngry Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 I play Spotify on my TV, with commercials. Like a radio station. If I want/need a deeper level of engagement/examination, I go elsewhere. Options abound. Works for me. Quote
hopkins Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 4 hours ago, Dub Modal said: Great news. Been streaming for a while now and Ellington’s digital catalog on those platforms is an absolute mess. This will help at least a little bit. Not just Ellington's catalog unfortunately. Quote
Stompin at the Savoy Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 2 hours ago, JSngry said: I play Spotify on my TV, with commercials. Like a radio station. If I want/need a deeper level of engagement/examination, I go elsewhere. Options abound. Works for me. I listen on Spotify sometimes (when I can't find anything else basically) but the ads can be really jarring! You're listening to some jazz and suddenly there is some commercial pop at a much higher volume. Quote
JSngry Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 I grew up with commercials. They were a fact if life, the reason why everything was free If I don't want them, again, other options are available. Quote
Stompin at the Savoy Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 Just now, JSngry said: I grew up with commercials. They were a fact if life, the reason why everything was free If I don't want them, again, other options are available. Me too. I guess I've gotten spoiled with 10-disk Mosaic sets and no commercials. Quote
JSngry Posted June 18, 2023 Report Posted June 18, 2023 Mosaic killed commercial jazz radio!!! 🤪 Quote
Dub Modal Posted June 19, 2023 Report Posted June 19, 2023 17 hours ago, hopkins said: Not just Ellington's catalog unfortunately. Tell me about it. Quote
JSngry Posted July 2, 2023 Report Posted July 2, 2023 Ready for more. The Guy/Braud/Greer rhythm section was NASTY!!! Quote
jazzbo Posted July 2, 2023 Report Posted July 2, 2023 Some info: https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/duke-ellington-ellington-in-order-volume-1-1927-28.1177390/page-3#post-32335546 Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted July 15, 2023 Report Posted July 15, 2023 At this rate, how long until we get to Afro Eurasion Eclipse? Quote
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