JSngry Posted June 2, 2023 Report Posted June 2, 2023 Wow indeed. Jack Parnell was MD for that show. Was he hip enough to actually orchestrate all (sorta) the tape effects and backwards guitar solos! If not, who would have had on staff to do that? Not just who, but WHY???? Quote
Big Beat Steve Posted June 3, 2023 Report Posted June 3, 2023 Juliet Prowse - a name probably best-known in many circles for her co-star role in Elvis' "G.I. Blues". Quote
sidewinder Posted June 3, 2023 Report Posted June 3, 2023 13 hours ago, JSngry said: Wow indeed. Jack Parnell was MD for that show. Was he hip enough to actually orchestrate all (sorta) the tape effects and backwards guitar solos! If not, who would have had on staff to do that? Not just who, but WHY???? Jack Parnell - now there’s a blast from the past. He and his orchestra used to appear on pretty well all ITV (independent TV) shows in the 70s in particular. His band had people from the Ted Heath organisation and was also the backing band on The Muppets ! Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted June 3, 2023 Author Report Posted June 3, 2023 8 hours ago, Big Beat Steve said: Juliet Prowse - a name probably best-known in many circles for her co-star role in Elvis' "G.I. Blues". And let's not forget Who Killed Teddy Bear! Quote
JSngry Posted June 3, 2023 Report Posted June 3, 2023 I remember her for her dancer's legs on variety shows. Quote
GA Russell Posted June 3, 2023 Report Posted June 3, 2023 Regardless of her talent, etc., I think she was best known as Frank Sinatra's girlfriend. Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted June 3, 2023 Author Report Posted June 3, 2023 I wonder if it's awkward to just sit there on camera for three minutes with someone singing to you. Quote
GA Russell Posted June 3, 2023 Report Posted June 3, 2023 I remember seeing Sonny & Cher for the first time. It was American Bandstand, probably June, 1965. Cher lip-synched All I Really Want to Do to Sonny, while he just stood there! 20 minutes ago, Teasing the Korean said: I wonder if it's awkward to just sit there on camera for three minutes with someone singing to you. I think this is it. Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted June 3, 2023 Author Report Posted June 3, 2023 16 minutes ago, GA Russell said: Cher lip-synched All I Really Want to Do to Sonny, while he just stood there! I wonder if this experience inspired Sonny's psychedelic masterpiece "I Just Sit There?!?" Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted June 3, 2023 Author Report Posted June 3, 2023 On 6/2/2023 at 2:24 PM, JSngry said: Wow indeed. Jack Parnell was MD for that show. Jack Parnell's cover of Lalo Schifrin's Enter the Dragon theme is badass. Quote
sgcim Posted July 3, 2024 Report Posted July 3, 2024 On 6/3/2023 at 10:51 AM, Teasing the Korean said: And let's not forget Who Killed Teddy Bear! I just saw Who Killed Teddy Bear last night, and couldn't believe the score! Charlie Calello threw everything he could into it, but it overwhelmed every scene. He went on to become The Hit Man, but what a wild score. Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted July 3, 2024 Author Report Posted July 3, 2024 42 minutes ago, sgcim said: I just saw Who Killed Teddy Bear last night, and couldn't believe the score! Charlie Calello threw everything he could into it, but it overwhelmed every scene. He went on to become The Hit Man, but what a wild score. None of the cover versions of the theme are as good as the film version. I don't think that version was ever commercially released, and the singer may not have been correctly identified either. Quote
JSngry Posted July 3, 2024 Report Posted July 3, 2024 Charlie Calello went over to the dark side, but before he did, those Lou Christie hits of his were tight. Maybe even genius, to get normal human adults to make those sounds like they did, put together like that. That track should be studied. 43 minutes ago, Teasing the Korean said: None of the cover versions of the theme are as good as the film version. I don't think that version was ever commercially released, and the singer may not have been correctly identified either. Rita Dyson pet a YT post. Not correct? Also interesting to see the intersection of Calello and Bob Gaudio on that song. Gaudio was another one who would do some offbeat shit in the backing tracks Quote
sgcim Posted July 4, 2024 Report Posted July 4, 2024 3 hours ago, JSngry said: Charlie Calello went over to the dark side, but before he did, those Lou Christie hits of his were tight. Maybe even genius, to get normal human adults to make those sounds like they did, put together like that. That track should be studied. Rita Dyson pet a YT post. Not correct? Also interesting to see the intersection of Calello and Bob Gaudio on that song. Gaudio was another one who would do some offbeat shit in the backing tracks There was an interview with him by 3 You Tube bozos, and he said that his father was a club date trumpet player. His father had a gig where they needed to play some new tune, and he asked CC if he had the sheet music to it, and CC said no, but he just heard it on the radio, and he'd write it out for him. So his father plays the tune on the gig and he said that the piano player said that CC did something with the changes that was much deeper than what was on the record. It was then that CC realized he had a different understanding of harmony than most people. He also claimed that it took him one or two hours to write charts for any tune he ever got recorded. A friend of mine went to MS of M with him , Donald Byrd and Chris Dedrick, but my friend can' remember what he did an hour ago, so... But he said CC had something to do with some group in the mold of BS&T. I didn't know CC had anything to do with Lightnin' Strikes, but he did play bass, so maybe it him on the record playing that great bass line. Here's my fave use of that song in a movie: Quote
JSngry Posted July 4, 2024 Report Posted July 4, 2024 Calello was the producer on Lou Christie s MGM hits and their B-sides. This one is more interesting than it has to be: Some people will say oh, that's just a bad song, just musically incoherent, and ok, maybe. But maybe not. Maybe it's simply som interesting choices. And who were those female singers? What did he tell them in order to get that crazy ensemble timbre? Attention should be paid. All things relative to their own size of course, but Lou Christie did some not uninteresting work. Quote
JSngry Posted July 4, 2024 Report Posted July 4, 2024 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightnin'_Strikes#:~:text=Ralph Casale's "stuttering" guitar solo was an overdub. https://www.songfacts.com/blog/interviews/ralph-casale-session-pro Ok, this is all falling together now. Avant-Garde as fuck. In its own world, of course. Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted July 4, 2024 Author Report Posted July 4, 2024 17 hours ago, JSngry said: Rita Dyson pet a YT post. Not correct? That may be correct, but for quite a while, people were attributing the theme to various singers who covered it. There were a few contemporaneous 45s, one by Leslie Uggams IIRC! Quote
JSngry Posted July 4, 2024 Report Posted July 4, 2024 The credit to Rita Dyson is said to have come from Jet Magazine. 21 minutes ago, Teasing the Korean said: That may be correct, but for quite a while, people were attributing the theme to various singers who covered it. There were a few contemporaneous 45s, one by Leslie Uggams IIRC! Do any of those 45s have producer's credits on the label? Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted July 4, 2024 Author Report Posted July 4, 2024 1 hour ago, JSngry said: The credit to Rita Dyson is said to have come from Jet Magazine. Do any of those 45s have producer's credits on the label? I don't have them, but they are/were on YouTube. One pet peeve was that two of the contemporaneous covers miss my favorite chord in the tune. There was a cover by a female British singer from more recent decades, and I liked her version. Here is the film version, by Rita Dyson, apparently released on a promotional EP. It's the Leslie Uggams version that misses my favorite chord. Quote
JSngry Posted July 4, 2024 Report Posted July 4, 2024 Jan Murray? What did he play in the movie? Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted July 4, 2024 Author Report Posted July 4, 2024 (edited) 8 minutes ago, JSngry said: Jan Murray? What did he play in the movie? I think he plays some kind of a cop or quasi-father figure to the little girl, I can't remember. It's been a while. Incidentally, it is difficult, it not impossible, to find the original, complete version of this film. We have a grainy DVR burned for us from a friend who was a film freak, and it is purportedly complete, or at least the most complete version available. Since then, we got the Blu-ray from Network - which may or may not work with most US players - and it is apparently the most complete commercially available version. I have not yet carefully compared the two, but that is on my to-do list. I always remember Jan Murray from Hollywood Squares, with the hippy beads and medallions in his chest hair. Even as a little kid, I knew instinctively that there was something terribly wrong about this. Edited July 4, 2024 by Teasing the Korean Quote
GA Russell Posted July 4, 2024 Report Posted July 4, 2024 I remember Jan Murray from Treasure Hunt. Quote
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