John Coltrane with Eric Dolphy - Evenings at the Village Gate (July 14th release date)

[colinmce]

I got a little inside info last year about this one (and one other one not involving John), exciting to see it finally coming.

 

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In August of 1961, the John Coltrane Quintet played an engagement at the legendary Village Gate in Greenwich Village, New York. Eighty minutes of never-before-heard music from this group were recently discovered at the New York Public Library. In addition to some well-known Coltrane material (“Impressions”), there is a breathtaking feature for Dolphy’s bass clarinet on “When Lights Are Low” and the only known non-studio recording of Coltrane’s composition “Africa”, from the Africa/Brass album.

Tracklist:

1. My Favorite Things
2. When Lights Are Low
3. Impressions
4. Greensleeves
5. Africa

 

 

https://www.npr.org/2023/05/31/1179098682/john-coltrane-eric-dolphy-village-gate-1961-lost-album

Edited May 31, 2023 by colinmce

[jazzbo]

Good news!

 

A totally different type of release coming out in July:

https://www.archeophone.com/catalogue/loren-mcmurray-moaninest-moan/

[ghost of miles]

34 minutes ago, colinmce said:

I got a little inside info last year about this one (and one other one not involving John), exciting to see it finally coming.

 

 

https://www.npr.org/2023/05/31/1179098682/john-coltrane-eric-dolphy-village-gate-1961-lost-album

Just saw Nate Chinen’s email about this. Holy moly! 

[Eric]

The NPR story has a sound clip - sound quality seems pretty decent.

Tapes were discovered by a Bob Dylan archivist at the New York Public Library for the Performing Arts.

Wish I could copy the link.  They have a pic of the album cover which to me looks freaky cool.  This is an 80 minute recording.

Edit: here we go:

Edited June 1, 2023 by Eric

[felser]

This is awesome!

[GregK]

Wow! When can I preorder this??!!

[Ken Dryden]

Automatically on my want list! Maybe someone can find the Monterey tapes of John Coltrane leading a sextet with Eric Dolphy and Wes Montgomery.

[Justin V]

Sign me up.  Every time I hear the Vanguard set, it sounds fresh.  I didn't expect more Coltrane with Dolphy to surface. 

[John L]

Wow!

[ghost of miles]

Paging Mark Stryker—remember the Detroit jazz tribute in NYC where we ascertained that the venue, (Le) Poisson Rouge, was the former site of the Village Gate?

Really excited to hear this. I’ve continued to hope that the early-1960s Showboat recordings will surface in some official-release form, but a new Coltrane-Dolphy performance will more than suffice for now. 

[Pim]

This is great. That band was incredible!

[kh1958]

It's up for pre-order on amazon, both CD and vinyl versions. Since it says 80 minutes of music, will the CD version (a single CD) have all the tracks?

Edited June 1, 2023 by kh1958

[jazzbo]

My guess is yes. CD manufacturing has put 79 to 80 minutes (and in a few cases just over 80) onto cds for some time and most players from this century will have no problem with playback.

Edited June 1, 2023 by jazzbo

[clifford_thornton]

10 hours ago, ghost of miles said:

Paging Mark Stryker—remember the Detroit jazz tribute in NYC where we ascertained that the venue, (Le) Poisson Rouge, was the former site of the Village Gate?

Really excited to hear this. I’ve continued to hope that the early-1960s Showboat recordings will surface in some official-release form, but a new Coltrane-Dolphy performance will more than suffice for now. 

yeah, well, I think the CVS next door as the underground portion is below the pharmacy.

But for all intents and purposes that's correct.

[JSngry]

The Gate had two stories, right?

I saw two "Jazz Meets Salsa" shows there in 1979 and remember it being a pretty big space. The dance floor was large - and packed. So, more space than most places. 

[clifford_thornton]

Yes, there was the Top of the Gate and the underground space.

My parents saw Miles there I believe, and that was in the big basement area.

[JSngry]

I remember being a bit surprised at how big the space was. Not exactly "intimate"!!! 

[ejp626]

Just saw the news this morning and am pre-ordering now.  😊

Discussed here in the Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2023/jun/01/john-coltrane-recordings-lost-in-new-york-public-library-will-finally-be-heard

[Dub Modal]

NPR & Guardian stories are interesting. So, Alderson set up a single mic to test his state of the art system and set this aside after recording because they were unauthorized. How do they now become authorized for official release? This also sets up the intriguing possibility that he also recorded other acts (Simone, Silver & Blakey's group) that haven't been released before - and maybe more dates of Coltrane's group. The Guardian says that Coltrane had residency at the VG, so was this just for that month of August '61? I'm also intrigued by how things get lost in the NY Library for Performing Arts archives. Was it haphazard cataloging? 

[jlhoots]

Preordered. 👍

[clifford_thornton]

20 minutes ago, Dub Modal said:

NPR & Guardian stories are interesting. So, Alderson set up a single mic to test his state of the art system and set this aside after recording because they were unauthorized. How do they now become authorized for official release? This also sets up the intriguing possibility that he also recorded other acts (Simone, Silver & Blakey's group) that haven't been released before - and maybe more dates of Coltrane's group. The Guardian says that Coltrane had residency at the VG, so was this just for that month of August '61? I'm also intrigued by how things get lost in the NY Library for Performing Arts archives. Was it haphazard cataloging? 

Not lost. My guess is that the materials were unprocessed, or perhaps a section of the archives was not given item-level cataloging. It really depends and is no fault of the archives/archivist, especially given the sheer size of the NYPL PAA collections. 

[felser]

41 minutes ago, jlhoots said:

Preordered. 👍

Same here, $13.98 on Amazon.  I generally wait and try to shop best price, but I want this one on my doorstep ASAP!

[clifford_thornton]

Like the clip I heard on NPR very much. Will definitely be picking up the CD. Hopefully not as bass-boomy as other recent Impulse! CD titles (Monk; Blue World).

[Rooster_Ties]

2 hours ago, clifford_thornton said:

Like the clip I heard on NPR very much.

The full-length track that was exclusive to that NPR story is now live on YouTube too…

 

[brownie]

This is coming put on Bastille Day.

There will be celebrations here..: