clifford_thornton Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 I am inclined to say I have heard of it before but never seen a copy. Does it actually exist? https://www.discogs.com/release/15827956-Charlie-Mariano-Meets-Anthony-Braxton-Elegy-For-A-Goose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 News to me. Kind of intriguing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.D. Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 (edited) 24 minutes ago, clifford_thornton said: I am inclined to say I have heard of it before but never seen a copy. Does it actually exist? https://www.discogs.com/release/15827956-Charlie-Mariano-Meets-Anthony-Braxton-Elegy-For-A-Goose Joe Fonda was on this recording (if it exists 😉). He's (at least semi-) local, you could probably ask him. I've communicated with Joe before via his website. Edited April 14, 2023 by T.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 I loved this credit - "Recorded live on November 31,1981 by Konrad Lorenz at Foie Gras, Paris, France". Someone's goose was cooked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmce Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 I have never seen nor heard of this. I'd wonder if it's even real myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.D. Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Chuck Nessa said: I loved this credit - "Recorded live on November 31,1981 by Konrad Lorenz at Foie Gras, Paris, France". Someone's goose was cooked. Good catch! Took me a while to notice the 31 Nov. 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted April 14, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 yeah, good catch on the date. My buddy knows Fonda and is asking him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 "Konrad Lorenz" and "geese" isn't a random combination of words either... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ep1str0phy Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 This band is absolutely stacked, and I have my doubts that Braxton would pen something and name it "Geese Suite" (unless these are random track titles assigned by a bootleg producer). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted April 14, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 yeah, there's no way he would've called pieces by those titles. I suspect it is a boot of some sort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 On the other hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 Any foie gras fans here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontooneous Posted April 14, 2023 Report Share Posted April 14, 2023 (edited) The goose was flattered and came back for more. Edited April 18, 2023 by Spontooneous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted April 15, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2023 The goose got diverted: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onxidlib Posted April 17, 2023 Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 (edited) On 4/14/2023 at 6:32 PM, colinmce said: I have never seen nor heard of this. I'd wonder if it's even real myself. This LP most probably does not exist. Discovered this at Discogs almost three years ago. I've asked Günter Sommer. He even went into his archive and he is 100% sure that he never was part of this recording. The same question was asked to Aki Takase by the original submitter. She is sure never to have played let alone recorded in this line-up. The original submitter found this "release" (it would have been rather a double LP - tt 62:14) at the former website of Charlie Mariano's daughter. She insisted that this LP does exist but never saw it by herself. I strongly tend to believe Günter Sommer and Aki Takase.  Edited April 17, 2023 by Onxidlib Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted April 17, 2023 Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 There is a club in Paris named New Morning, and Braxton played there on September 8, 9, 10 & 11, 1981. Â Hoping this is helpful. https://www.newmorning.com/tags/3311-anthony-braxton.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 17, 2023 Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 Which daughter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onxidlib Posted April 17, 2023 Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, JSngry said: Which daughter? I do not know - the original submitter of "Elegy for a Goose" contacted one of Mariano's daughters after I've mailed him wether he has this LP. He did not have it. He made a web-submission - culled data from the "Charlie Mariano Tribute" website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted April 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 All right, so as an LP or a CD it is probably fake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.D. Posted April 17, 2023 Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 Looks like a hoax / joke to me. If so, chapeau to the perpetrator  , rather cleverly done IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 17, 2023 Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 29 minutes ago, clifford_thornton said: All right, so as an LP or a CD it is probably fake. So, cassette only, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted April 17, 2023 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 HA! too late for an 8-track I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 17, 2023 Report Share Posted April 17, 2023 NEVER!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppy T. Frog Posted August 6, 2023 Report Share Posted August 6, 2023 Someone on Discogs commented that they asked Joe Fonda in person about this and that no such recording took place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel A Posted August 6, 2023 Report Share Posted August 6, 2023 On 4/17/2023 at 5:38 PM, Onxidlib said: I do not know - the original submitter of "Elegy for a Goose" contacted one of Mariano's daughters after I've mailed him wether he has this LP. He did not have it. He made a web-submission - culled data from the "Charlie Mariano Tribute" website. Isn't this against Discogs submission guidelines? You got to have a copy in hand to make a submission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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