Dub Modal Posted April 1, 2023 Report Posted April 1, 2023 13 hours ago, Teasing the Korean said: They are appealing to a demographic of dying white men who want moldy box sets that look, feel, and smell like 78 albums. Brutally said, but unfortunately accurate in a way. Smaller boutique labels are making money on jazz reissues, most of them via LP but still, there's a market because CDs are selling. Mosaic could get in but I guess they're not interested which I find a bit weird. Not sure why a Universal-owned line like them couldn't revisit some of the Selects for reissue (the good ones would fly off the shelf), then use that revenue to buoy some other projects. Oh well. Quote
Brad Posted April 1, 2023 Report Posted April 1, 2023 A very strange discussion but maybe TTK is just trying to get people going. My thoughts on this are closer to Lon’s. I like what and how they do it. They may be selling to white men but I’d be curious what the age group of buyers are. Perhaps a poll is needed. I have no interest in 78s so I don’t think that part holds up. Quote
John Tapscott Posted April 1, 2023 Report Posted April 1, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Brad said: A very strange discussion but maybe TTK is just trying to get people going. My thoughts on this are closer to Lon’s. I like what and how they do it. They may be selling to white men but I’d be curious what the age group of buyers are. Perhaps a poll is needed. I have no interest in 78s so I don’t think that part holds up. I agree. I may be a dying white man (we're all dying), but as someone said years ago here, listening to jazz helps keep us young. Listening to my Mosaic sets (among others), and jazz in general keeps me alert, interested, and looking forward to tomorrow. And there's nothing wrong with that. Is Mosaic perfect? No, but it's pretty darn good IMHO. And I am thankful. Edited April 1, 2023 by John Tapscott Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted April 1, 2023 Report Posted April 1, 2023 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Dub Modal said: Brutally said, but unfortunately accurate in a way. Smaller boutique labels are making money on jazz reissues, most of them via LP but still, there's a market because CDs are selling. Mosaic could get in but I guess they're not interested which I find a bit weird. Not sure why a Universal-owned line like them couldn't revisit some of the Selects for reissue (the good ones would fly off the shelf), then use that revenue to buoy some other projects. Oh well. I probably would have supported Mosaic if they had released more individual rare albums, with bonus cuts when available. Mosaic could have tried to grow the jazz audience - and the Mosaic customer base - with affordable, limited-edition single- or double-disc releases of rare sessions. Instead, they only reinforced the exclusivity of the existing jazz audience by releasing pricey box sets aimed at people with significant disposable income, who are likely on the older half of the spectrum. Their approach to certain box sets is perplexing: If we already have most of an artist's catalog from a particular label or era, are we really going to repurchase it all in a pricey box just to get one or two unreleased sessions? And I really don't like tracks presented chronologically. (I realize not all Mosaic box sets took this approach.) If an artist records, say, a ballad first, as a warm-up, does that ballad necessarily make a good album opener? Mosaic could learn from the film score boutique labels. While they sometimes release pricey box sets, like the complete music from the original Star Trek, they do lots of limited-edition releases of single unreleased or out-of-print scores, often combining the film and album recordings on one or two discs. At $20 or $25 a throw, these are more affordable. Considering how much I spent on these limited film score releases, I may have bought more Mosaics if they had taken this approach. Real Gone Music, Numero, and Light in the Attic also offer examples of what Mosaic could have been as a jazz label. Oh well. Edited April 1, 2023 by Teasing the Korean Quote
John L Posted April 1, 2023 Report Posted April 1, 2023 (edited) On 3/30/2023 at 10:40 PM, Joe said: What would you all say to an Andy Kirk set? Or a John Kirby Sextet set? On 3/30/2023 at 11:51 PM, Chuck Nessa said: Both worthwhile but finding a sufficient audience would be a challenge. I think that an early recordings of Mary Lou Williams set that includes everything with Andy Kirk would work in that regard. It could also include her 1940s recordings on Asch that are not widely known. Edited April 1, 2023 by John L Quote
Joe Posted April 1, 2023 Report Posted April 1, 2023 20 minutes ago, John L said: I think that an early recordings of Mary Lou Williams set that includes everything with Andy Kirk would work in that regard. It could also include her 1940s recordings on Asch that are not widely known. Yes, I think of this as a de factor Mary Lou Williams set. Honestly, Mosaic would be wise to consider a set focused on women instrumentalists. Not sure how you could work the parameters of that, but there's got to be some way to do that. Maybe starting with bop/the modern era. I mean, it would never happen, but I'd love a set focused on Barbara Donald's work. Quote
miles65 Posted April 1, 2023 Report Posted April 1, 2023 (edited) On 3/31/2023 at 4:56 PM, Mark Stryker said: Off the top: 1. Frankie Newton across a zillion labels and his whole career as a leader and sideman -- anything where he has solo space or makes a significant ensemble contribution. There's a 3 CD set on Acrobat that kinda does this but it's by no means complete and there are no notes/context etc. on a remarkably individual music and life. I went through the Frankie Newton disco on the JazzArcheology.com - Your Guide to the Treasures of Vintage Jazz | JazzArcheology.com site. Frankie recorded for a lot of labels. Between 1929-1939 he recorded 85 sides (including 9 without a FN solo) for labels now owned by Sony. The rest is scattered over Decca, Blue Note, Commodore, Asch, Savoy, National and Disc. I'm afraid not much chance for a Mosaic. Edited April 1, 2023 by miles65 forgot something Quote
danasgoodstuff Posted April 1, 2023 Report Posted April 1, 2023 I have the perfect set for Mosaic, gather all the officially unissued (and/or rejected) Blue Note for which decent sources still exist and put it in a box with that pic of Hank & Lee laughing their guts out at Slugs on the cover. Won't make Cuscuna happy but I think their audience would eat it up. I would buy it and I haven't bought anything from Mosaic in years, maybe decades if we mean bought new directly from them. Off the top of my head - Lee, Hank, 3 Sounds, Rueben Wilson, Lou D, Jimmy Shirley, who else? Assuming that most of this actually exists. Quote
J.A.W. Posted April 1, 2023 Report Posted April 1, 2023 On 3/30/2023 at 5:49 AM, Chuck Nessa said: Once again, I'd kill for an expanded edition of Columbia/Sony's "The Okeh Ellington" to include the Pathe/Cameo/Romeo sides. Forget about the Victor sides, they've been done and no reason to include them just because "corporate" has access to them.. Seconded. I suggested something like that to Scott some time ago, and I wouldn't be suprised if we'd see an Ellington set with those recordings someday. On 3/29/2023 at 10:40 PM, Larry Kart said: Bryant? Fine man in a section, much respected, big rich sound, but IMO not a tremendously distinctive solo voice. I'd compare him to, say, Benny Bailey, who I don't think quite meets the Mosaic standard either, though he might have if he'd gotten a good deal more chances on record to show what he could do. There's the Candid that Nat Hentoff set up for him and two nice British label albums with Tony Coe, one with each of them as leader. Anything else? In terms of quality and amount of material, I think of Fathead Newman, but most of that material is/has been readily available. Lucky Thompson's name comes up often, and he's a major player, but I've managed to acquire just about all the LT I'm aware of, and I'd bet that other LT fans have too. In my book, Al Haig and Jimmy Raney are major figures, but in both cases, is there much that hasn't been available in recent times? Scott told me years ago they were planning to release a Lucky Thompson Select, and then thought of releasing a "regular" set. Nothing came of it, if I remember correctly the licensing problems couldn't be solved. Quote
Eric Posted April 1, 2023 Report Posted April 1, 2023 5 hours ago, Teasing the Korean said: I probably would have supported Mosaic if they had released more individual rare albums, with bonus cuts when available. Mosaic could have tried to grow the jazz audience - and the Mosaic customer base - with affordable, limited-edition single- or double-disc releases of rare sessions. Instead, they only reinforced the exclusivity of the existing jazz audience by releasing pricey box sets aimed at people with significant disposable income, who are likely on the older half of the spectrum. Their approach to certain box sets is perplexing: If we already have most of an artist's catalog from a particular label or era, are we really going to repurchase it all in a pricey box just to get one or two unreleased sessions? And I really don't like tracks presented chronologically. (I realize not all Mosaic box sets took this approach.) If an artist records, say, a ballad first, as a warm-up, does that ballad necessarily make a good album opener? Mosaic could learn from the film score boutique labels. While they sometimes release pricey box sets, like the complete music from the original Star Trek, they do lots of limited-edition releases of single unreleased or out-of-print scores, often combining the film and album recordings on one or two discs. At $20 or $25 a throw, these are more affordable. Considering how much I spent on these limited film score releases, I may have bought more Mosaics if they had taken this approach. Real Gone Music, Numero, and Light in the Attic also offer examples of what Mosaic could have been as a jazz label. Oh well. #101 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Thelonious Monk (4 LPs) #102 The Complete Pacific Jazz and Capitol Recordings of the Original Gerry Mulligan Quartet and Tentette with Chet Baker (3 CDs or 5 LPs) #103 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Albert Ammons and Meade Lux Lewis (2 CDs or 3 LPs) #104 The Complete Blue Note and Pacific Jazz Recordings of Clifford Brown (5 LPs) #105 The Complete Pacific Jazz Small Group Recordings of Art Pepper (3 LPs) #106 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of the Tina Brooks Quintet (4 LPs) #107 The Complete Blue Note Forties Recordings of Ike Quebec and John Hardee (3 CDs or 4 LPs) #108 The Complete Recordings of The Port of Harlem Jazzmen (1 LP) #109 The Complete Edmond Hall/James P. Johnson/Sidney De Paris/Vic Dickenson Blue Note Sessions (4 CDs or 6 LPs) #110 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Sidney Bechet (4 CDs or 6 LPs) #111 The Complete Candid Recordings of Charles Mingus (3 CDs or 4 LPs) #112 The Complete Black Lion Vogue Recordings of Thelonious Monk (3 CDs or 4 LPs) #113 The Complete Pacific Jazz Live Recordings of the Chet Baker Quartet with Russ Freeman (3 CDs or 4 LPs) #114 The Complete Art Hodes Blue Note Sessions (4 CDs or 5 LPs) #115 The Benny Morton/Jimmy Hamilton Blue Note Swingtets (1 LP) #116 The Complete Bud Powell Blue Note Recordings (1949-1958) (5 LPs) #117 The Complete Verve Recordings of the Buddy De Franco Quartet/Quintet with Sonny Clark (4 CDs or 5 LPs) #118 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Herbie Nichols (3 CDs or 5 LPs) #119 The Pete Johnson/Earl Hines/Teddy Bunn Blue Note Sessions (1 LP) #120 The Complete Recordings of the Paul Desmond Quartet with Jim Hall (4 CDs or 6 LPs) #121 The Complete Blue Note 45 Sessions of Ike Quebec (2 CDs or 3 LPs) #122 The Complete Pacific Jazz Studio Recordings of the Chet Baker Quartet with Russ Freeman (3 CDs or 4 LPs) #123 The Complete Commodore Jazz Recordings, Volume I (23 LPs) #124 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Freddie Redd (2 CDs or 3 LPs) #125 The Complete Atlantic and EMI Jazz Recordings of Shorty Rogers (4 CDs or 6 LPs) #126 The Complete Johnny Hodges Recordings 1951-1955 (6 LPs) #127 The Complete Candid Recordings of Cecil Taylor and Buell Neidlinger (4 CDs or 6 LPs) #128 The Complete Commodore Jazz Recordings, Volume II (23 LPs) #130 The Complete Recordings of T-Bone Walker 1940-1954 (6 CDs or 9 LPs) #131 The Complete Recordings of the Stan Getz Quintet with Jimmy Raney (3 CDs or 4 LPs) #132 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of George Lewis (3 CDs or 5 LPs) #133 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Grant Green with Sonny Clark (4 CDs or 5 LPs) #134 The Complete Commodore Jazz Recordings, Volume III (20 LPs) #135 The Complete Roulette Live Recordings of Count Basie and His Orchestra (1959-1962) (8 CDs or 12 LPs) #136 Stan Kenton: The Complete Capitol Recordings of the Holman & Russo Charts (4 CDs or 6 LPs) #137 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Larry Young (6 CDs or 9 LPs) #138 The Complete Capitol Recordings of the Nat King Cole Trio (18 CDs or 27 LPs) #139 The Complete Candid Otis Spann/Lightnin’ Hopkins Sessions (3 CDs or 5 LPs) #140 The Complete Master Jazz Piano Series (4 CDs or 6 LPs) #141 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Art Blakey’s 1960 Jazz Messengers (6 CDs or 10 LPs) #142 The Complete CBS Studio Recordings of Woody Shaw (3 CDs or 4 LPs) #143 The Complete 1959 CBS Charles Mingus Sessions (4 Q-LPs) #144 The Complete CBS Buck Clayton Jam Sessions (6 CDs or 8 Q-LPs) #145 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Don Cherry (2 CDs or 3 Q-LPs) #146 The Complete Decca Studio Recordings of Louis Armstrong and the All Stars (6 CDs or 8 Q-LPs) #147 The Complete Serge Chaloff Sessions (4 CDs or 5 Q-LPs) #148 The Complete Capitol Small Group Recordings of Benny Goodman 1944-1955 (4 CDs or 6 Q-LPs) #149 The Complete Roulette Studio Recordings of Count Basie and His Orchestra (10 CDs or 15 Q-LPs) #150 The Complete Blue Note 1964-66 Jackie McLean Sessions (4 CDs or 6 Q-LPs) #151 The Complete Solid State Recordings of the Thad Jones/Mel Lewis Orchestra (5 CDs or 7 Q-LPs) #152 The Complete CBS Recording of Eddie Condon and His All Stars (5 CDs or 7 Q-LPs) #153 The Complete Aladdin Recordings of Charles Brown (5 CDs or 7 Q-LPs) #154 The Complete February 1957 Jimmy Smith Blue Note Sessions (3CDs or 5 Q-LP) #155 The Complete Aladdin Recordings of Amos Milburn (7 CDs or 10 Q-LPs) #156 The Complete Roulette Recordings of the Maynard Ferguson Orchestra (10 CDs or 14 Q-LPs) #157 The Complete Capitol Recordings Of George Shearing (5 CDs or 7 Q-LPs) #158 Miles Davis: The Complete Plugged Nickel Sessions (10 Q-LPs) #159 The Phil Woods Quartet/Quintet 20th Anniversary Set (5 CDs or 7 Q-LPs) #160 The Complete Capitol Recordings Of Duke Ellington (5 CDs or 7 Q-LPs) #161 – The Complete Blue Note Andrew Hill Sessions (1963-66) (7 CDs or 10 LPs) #162 The Complete Blue Note Lee Morgan Fifties Sessions (4 CDs or 6 LPs) #163 The Complete Capitol Studio Recordings of Stan Kenton 1943-47 (7 CDs or 10 Q-LPs) #164 Miles Davis/Gil Evans: The Complete Columbia Studio Recordings (11 LPs) #165 The Complete Illinois Jacquet Sessions 1945-50 (4 CDs or 6 LPs) #166 The Complete Blue Note/UA Curtis Fuller Sessions (3 CDs or 5 LPs) #167 The Complete Blue Note Sam Rivers Sessions (3 CDs or 5 LPs) #168 The Complete Capitol Fifties Jack Teagarden Sessions (4 CDs or 6 LPs) #169 The Complete Columbia J.J. Johnson Small Group Sessions (7 CDs or 11 LPs) #170 Classic Capitol Jazz Sessions (12 CDs or 19 LPs) #171 Bill Evans: The Final Village Vanguard Sessions-June 1980 (10 LPs) #172 The Complete Blue Note/UA/Roulette Recordings of Thad Jones (3 CDs or 5 Q-LPs) #173 The Complete Verve Recordings of the Teddy Wilson Trio (5 CDs or 8 Q-LPs) #174 The Complete Atlantic Recordings of Lennie Tristano, Lee Konitz & Warne Marsh (6 CDs or 10 Q-LPs) #175 The Complete Pacific Jazz Recordings of the Chico Hamilton Quintet (6 CDs or 9 Q-LPs) #176 The Complete Capitol & Atlantic Recordings of Jimmy Giuffre (6 CDs or 10 Q-LPs) #177 The Complete Studio Recordings Of The Miles Davis Quintet 1965 – June 1968 (10 Q-LPs) #178 The Complete Blue Note Blue Mitchell Sessions (1963-67) (4 CDs or 6 Q-LPs) #179 The Atlantic New Orleans Jazz Sessions ( 4 CDs or 6 LPs) #180 The Pacific Jazz Bud Shank Studio Sessions (1956-61) (5 CDs or 7 LPs) #181 The Complete Blue Note Hank Mobley Fifties Sessions (6 CDs or 10 LPs) #182 The Complete Verve/Clef Charlie Ventura/Flip Philips Studio Sessions (6 CDs or 9 Q-LPs) #183 Miles Davis: The Complete Bitches Brew (6 Q-LPs) #184 The Complete Peggy Lee & June Christy Capitol Transcription Sessions (5 CDs) #185 Kenton Presents: Bob Cooper, Bill Holman & Frank Rosolino (4 CDs) #186 The Complete Verve Stuff Smith Sessions (4 CDs) #187 The Complete H.R.S. Sessions (6 CDs) #188 The Complete Anita O’Day Verve/Clef Sessions (9 CDs) #189 The Complete Kid Ory Verve Sessions (8 CDs) #190 The Complete Django Reinhardt & Quintet Of The Hot Club of France Swing/HMV Sessions (1936-1948) (6 CDs) #191 The Complete Columbia Recordings Of Miles Davis With John Coltrane (9 Q-LPs) #192 The Complete Capitol Recordings of Gene Krupa & Harry James (7 CDs) #193 Duke Ellington: The Reprise Studio Recordings (5 CDs) #194 The Complete Blue Note Donald Byrd/Pepper Adams Studio Sessions (4 CDs) #195 The Complete Blue Note Elvin Jones Sessions (8 CDs) #196 The Complete Capitol Recordings of Woody Herman (6 CDs) #197 The Complete Blue Note Horace Parlan Session (5 CDs or 8 Q-LPs) #198 The Complete Pacific Jazz Recordings of Gerald Wilson and His Orchestra (5 CDs) #199 The Columbia Jazz Piano Moods Sessions (7 CDs) #200 The Complete Verve Johnny Hodges Small Group Sessions 1956-61 (6 CDs) #201 The Complete Mercury Max Roach Plus Four Sessions (7 CDs) #202 The Complete Vee Jay Lee Morgan & Wayne Shorter Sessions (6 CDs) #203 The Complete Capitol Four Freshmen Fifties Sessions (9 CDs) #204 The Complete Columbia Recordings of Mildred Bailey (10 CDs) #205 The Complete Vee Jay Paul Chambers & Wynton Kelly Sessions 1959-61 #206 Classic Columbia Condon Mob Sessions (8 CDs) #207 The Complete Pacific Jazz Joe Pass Quartet Sessions (5 CDs) #208 The Complete Roost Sonny Stitt Studio Sessions (9 CDs) #209 Miles Davis: The Complete In A Silent Way Sessions (5 Q-LPs) #210 The Complete Capitol Bobby Hackett Solo Sessions (5 CDs) #211 The Complete OKeh & Brunswick Bix Beiderbecke, Frank Trumbauer & Jack Teagarden Sessions 1924-1936 (7 CDs) #212 Blue Note Stanley Turrentine Qt./Sxt. Sessions (5 CDs) #213 Classic Columbia And OKeh Joe Venuti And Eddie Lang Sessions (8 CDs) #214 The Complete Roulette Sarah Vaughan Studio Sessions (8 CDs) #215 The Complete Blue Note Lou Donaldson Sessions 1957-1960 (6 CDs) #216 The Complete Johnny Smith Roost Sessions (8 CDs) #217 The Complete Brunswick & Vocalion Recordings Of Louis Prima And Wingy Manone 1924-1937 (6 CDs) #218 The Complete Roulette Jack Teagarden Sessions (4 CDs) #219 The Complete Bruswick, Parlophone and Vocalion Bunny Berigan Sessions (7 CDs) #220 Miles Davis: The Complete Blackhawk Sessions (6 Q-LPs) #221 The Complete Verve Gerry Mulligan Concert Band Sessions (4 CDs) #222 The Complete Verve Roy Eldridge Studio Sessions (7 CDs) #223 The Complete Columbia Recordings of Woody Herman And His Orchestra & Woodchoppers (1945-1947) (7 CDs) #224 The Complete Verve Tal Farlow Sessions (7 CDs) #225 The Complete Argo/Mercury Art Farmer/Benny Golson/Jazztet Sessions (7 CDs) #226 Miles Davis: The Complete 1963-1964 Columbia Recordings (10 Q-LPs) #227 The Complete Roulette Dinah Washington Sessions (5 CDs) #228 Columbia Small Group Swing Sessions 1953-1962 (8 CDs) #229 The Complete Clef/Verve Count Basie Fifties Studio Recordings (8 CDs) #230 The Jazz Crusaders: The Pacific Jazz Quintet Studio Sessions (6 CDs) #231 Thelonious Monk & John Coltrane At Carnegie Hall (1 LP) #232 The Classic Argo, Emarcy & Verve Small Group Buddy Rich Session (7 CDs) #233 The Oliver Nelson Verve/Impulse Big Band Sessions (6 CDs) #234 The Verve/Philips Dizzy Gillespie Small Group Sessions (7 CDs) #235 Duke Ellington: The Complete 1936-1940 Variety, Vocaliaon & OKeh Small Group Reordings (7 CDs) #236 Classic Chu Berry Columbia And Victor Sessions (7 CDs) #237 The Quincy Jones ABC/Mercury Big Band Jazz Sessions (5 CDs) #238 The Complete Lionel Hampton Victor Sessions 1937-41 (5 CDs) #239 The Lester Young Count Basie Sessions 1936-1940 (4 CDs) #240 The Columbia and OKeh Benny Goodman Orchestra Sessions (7 CDs) #241 The Complete Clef/Mercury Studio Recordings of tThe Oscar Peterson Trio (1951-1953) (7 CDs) #242 The Complete Arista Recordings of Anthony Braxton (8 CDs) #243 The Complete Louis Armstrong Decca Sessions 1935-1946 (7 CDs) #244 Classic Artie Shaw Bluebird And Victor Sessions (7 CDs) #245 The Bing Crosby CBS Radio Recordings 1954-56 (7 CDs) #246 The Complete Ahmad Jamal Trio Argo Sessions (8 CDs) #247 The Novus & Columbia Recordings of Henry Threadgill & Air (8 CDs) #248 The Complete 1932-1940 Bruns./Col./Master Rec. of Ellington and His Famous Orchestra (11 CDs) #249 Complete Atlantic Studio Modern Jazz Quartet 1956-64 (7 CDs) #250 The Complete Jimmie Lunceford Decca Sessions (7 CDs) #251 Classic Coleman Hawkins Sessions 1922-1947 (8 CDs) #252 Chick Webb & Ella Fitzgerald Decca Sessions (1934-41) (8 CDs) #253 Charles Mingus – The Jazz Workshop Concerts 1964-65 (7 CDs) #254 Classic Earl Hines Sessions 1928-1945 (7 CDs) #255 Woody Shaw: The Complete Muse Sessions (7 CDs) #256 The Complete Clifford Jordan Strata-East Sessions (7 CDs) #257 The Columbia and RCA Victor Live Recordings of Louis Armstrong and the All Stars (9 CDs) #258 The Rosemary Clooney CBS Radio Recordings 1955-61 (5 CDs) #259 Eddie Condon & Bud Freeman: Complete Commodore & Decca Sessions (8 CDs) #260 The Complete Dial Modern Jazz Sessions (9 CDs) #261 The Complete Bee Hive Sessions (12 CDs) #262 Classic James P. Johnson Sessions (6 CDs) #263 Classic Columbia, OKeh and Vocalion Lester Young With Count Basie 1936-1947 (8 CDs) #264 Classic Savoy Be-Bop Sessions 1945-49 (10 CDs) #265 Classic Brunswick & Columbia Teddy Wilson Sessions 1934-1942 (7 CDs) #267 The Complete Woody Herman Decca, Mars and MGM Sessions (1943-1954) (7 CDs) #268 The Complete Hank Mobley Blue Note Sessions 1963-70 (7 CDs) #269 Paul Desmond: The Complete 1975 Toronto Recordings (7 CDs) Vinyl Set Series #3001 The Complete Thelonious Monk At The It Club (4 LPs) #3002 Ella & Duke at the Cote D’Azur (3 LPs) #3003 Stan Getz:The 1953-54 Norgran Studio Sessions (4 LPs) #3004 The Clifford Brown & Max Roach Emarcy Albums (4 LPs) #3005 John Coltrane: The Complete Sun Ship Session (3 LPs) #3006 Roland Kirk: The Limelight/Verve Albums (4 LPs) #3007 Louis Armstrong & The All Stars: Newport 1956 & 1958 (4 LPs) #3008 Gerry Mulligan: The Emarcy Sextet Recordings(5 LPs) Mosaic Selects: Limited Edition 3 CD sets MS-001 Mosaic Select: Grachan Moncur MS-002 Mosaic Select: Carmell Jones MS-003 Mosaic Select: Bennie Green MS-004 Mosaic Select: Randy Weston MS-005 Mosaic Select: Paul Chambers MS-006 Mosaic Select: John Patton MS-007 Mosaic Select: Curtis Amy MS-008 Mosaic Select: Duke Pearson MS-009 Mosaic Select: Bob Brookmeyer MS-010 Mosaic Select: Bud Shank/Bob Cooper MS-011 Mosaic Select: Dizzy Reece MS-012 Mosaic Select: Dave Liebman/Richie Beirach MS-013 Mosaic Select: Don Pullen MS-014 Mosaic Select: Dexter Gordon MS-015 Mosaic Select: Art Pepper MS-016 Mosaic Select: Andrew Hill MS-017 Mosaic Select: Johnny Richards MS-018 Mosaic Select: Freddie Slack MS-019 Mosaic Select: Pacific Jazz Piano Trios MS-020 Mosaic Select: Charles Tolliver MS-021 Mosaic Select: Gerry Mulligan MS-022 Mosaic Select: Sidney Bechet MS-023 Mosaic Select: Andrew Hill: Solo MS-024 Mosaic Select: Tony Williams MS-025 Mosaic Select: McCoy Tyner MS-026 Mosaic Select: Bobby Hutcherson MS-027 Mosaic Select: Al Cohn, Joe Newman & Freddie Green MS-028 Mosaic Select: Johnny Mercer MS-029 Mosaic Select: Onzy Matthews MS-030 Mosaic Select: Boogie Woogie MS-031 Mosaic Select: Woody Herman MS-032 Mosaic Select: Pendulum MS-033 Mosaic Select: Toshiko Akiyoshi-Lew Tabackin Big Band MS-034 Mosaic Select: Denny Zeitlin MS-035 Mosaic Select: John Handy MS-036 Mosaic Select: John Carter & Bobby Bradford MS-037 Mosaic Select: Charles Tolliver Big Band MS-038 Mosaic Select: Sam Rivers Rivbea Orchestra Mosaic Singles MCD-1001 Duke Ellington: Cosmic Scene MCD-1003 Al Cohn/Bill Perkins/Richie Kamuca: The Brothers! MCD-1004 J.J. Johnson: J.J.! MCD-1005 Art Blakey: Hard Bop! MCD-1006 Charles Lloyd: Of Course, Of Course MCD-1008 Lee Wiley: West Of The Moon MCD-1009 Buddy Rich: Rich In London MCD-1009 Art Farmer: A Time And A Place MCD-1011 Jimmy Witherspoon: Goin’To Kansas City MCD-1012 Various: The Jazz Piano MCD-1013 Woody Herman: Woody’s Winners MCD-1014 Duke Eington: Newport 1958 MCD-1015 J.J. Johnson & Kai Winding: Trombone For Two MCD-1017 Jonah Jones: At The Embers MCD-1018 George Wein: IS Alive And Well MCD-1019 The Helen Merrill/Dick Katz Sessions MCD-1020 Helen Merrill: Casa Forte Yeah, they have struggled to figure things out. Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted April 1, 2023 Report Posted April 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Eric said: Yeah, they have struggled to figure things out. Completely agree. Most of those are pricey box sets, and hardly any of them are singles. Quote
T.D. Posted April 1, 2023 Report Posted April 1, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, Dub Modal said: Brutally said, but unfortunately accurate in a way. Smaller boutique labels are making money on jazz reissues, most of them via LP but still, there's a market because CDs are selling. Mosaic could get in but I guess they're not interested which I find a bit weird. Not sure why a Universal-owned line like them couldn't revisit some of the Selects for reissue (the good ones would fly off the shelf), then use that revenue to buoy some other projects. Oh well. Agreed with much of what you say. The party line (posted on the forum by people who communicate with Mosaic) is that the Selects did not work out financially for them. I infer that's likely true of the Mosaic singles as well. My Mosaic purchases have seriously tapered off. Much more likely to buy second-hand copies, but only if price is attractive. I agree with TTK's above post in that buying a pricey bulky box set, most of whose contents I already own, just to get one or two sessions or a handful of unreleased tracks, is of little interest. Bottom line: I've never seen Mosaic's financial books and never will. I assume that what Mosaic does reflects a time/labor commitment and financial return that works for the principals (Michael / Scott). Without seeing the books, my commentary on their business amounts to pointlessly talking out of my ass. 🤣 Edited April 1, 2023 by T.D. Quote
Larry Kart Posted April 1, 2023 Report Posted April 1, 2023 At the juncture we seem to be at, I think it would be a good idea to look back at the history of Mosaic and ask ourselves, as well as the folks that be at Mosaic, which sets and which kinds of sets (big boxes, Selects, etc.) did the best -- economically and/or in terms of satisfying strongly felt needs within the community, even if such sets didn't always generate great sales. I think that up to a point almost all the early sets were slam-dunks from one point of view or another: Muillgan/Baker; Clifford Brown; Blakey 1960s; Buck Clayton Jam Sessions; L. Hampton Victors; Hodges small groups; Blue Note Elvin; Maynard Ferguson Roulette; Thad and Mel; Lunceford Deccas, Tristano, Konitz, Marsh, Atlantics, the Armstrong sets, Basie/Lester Young, Chu Berry, etc. Two possible deviations from whatever the general Mosaic model was were Tina Brooks and Freddie Redd, and both of those were blessings in my book. Another blessing that recently just dropped from the trees was the "private" Tristano set. That said, I think that there can be little doubt that failing further such pieces of good luck, we're now hard-pressed for slam-dunks, and Mosaic without slam-dunks is ill ease to say the least. Now the old or original Mosaic model was eminently sound, I think -- both in terms of filling vital needs for the jazz community snd probably (I don't have the figures of course) economically sound as well. Can Mosaic more or less go on as it has before on what might be thought of as a reduced diet of some sort? If not what alterations to what seems to have been the Mosaic model would make sense -- -- in terms of filling community needs and significant historical gaps, etc? Notably broadening the jazz aspect of Mosaic might be/probably would be self-defeating; that this is more or less a purist endeavor seems to be of its essence. For instance, at one time I thought of Sauter-Finnegan, which might be fun, and might even do well sales-wise, but really...? I certainly don't have the answer or answers, but, again, I think that a close look at Mosaic's past might clarify matters. Quote
J.A.W. Posted April 1, 2023 Report Posted April 1, 2023 6 hours ago, Dub Modal said: Brutally said, but unfortunately accurate in a way. Smaller boutique labels are making money on jazz reissues, most of them via LP but still, there's a market because CDs are selling. Mosaic could get in but I guess they're not interested which I find a bit weird. Not sure why a Universal-owned line like them couldn't revisit some of the Selects for reissue (the good ones would fly off the shelf), then use that revenue to buoy some other projects. Oh well. Mosaic won't be releasing LPs again because of the many problems with pressings and things like that, and the financial consequences of having to replace faulty copies etc. Having seen the horror stories on another forum I can fully understand that. Quote
Larry Kart Posted April 1, 2023 Report Posted April 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Eric said: #101 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Thelonious Monk (4 LPs) #102 The Complete Pacific Jazz and Capitol Recordings of the Original Gerry Mulligan Quartet and Tentette with Chet Baker (3 CDs or 5 LPs) #103 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Albert Ammons and Meade Lux Lewis (2 CDs or 3 LPs) #104 The Complete Blue Note and Pacific Jazz Recordings of Clifford Brown (5 LPs) #105 The Complete Pacific Jazz Small Group Recordings of Art Pepper (3 LPs) #106 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of the Tina Brooks Quintet (4 LPs) #107 The Complete Blue Note Forties Recordings of Ike Quebec and John Hardee (3 CDs or 4 LPs) #108 The Complete Recordings of The Port of Harlem Jazzmen (1 LP) #109 The Complete Edmond Hall/James P. Johnson/Sidney De Paris/Vic Dickenson Blue Note Sessions (4 CDs or 6 LPs) #110 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Sidney Bechet (4 CDs or 6 LPs) #111 The Complete Candid Recordings of Charles Mingus (3 CDs or 4 LPs) #112 The Complete Black Lion Vogue Recordings of Thelonious Monk (3 CDs or 4 LPs) #113 The Complete Pacific Jazz Live Recordings of the Chet Baker Quartet with Russ Freeman (3 CDs or 4 LPs) #114 The Complete Art Hodes Blue Note Sessions (4 CDs or 5 LPs) #115 The Benny Morton/Jimmy Hamilton Blue Note Swingtets (1 LP) #116 The Complete Bud Powell Blue Note Recordings (1949-1958) (5 LPs) #117 The Complete Verve Recordings of the Buddy De Franco Quartet/Quintet with Sonny Clark (4 CDs or 5 LPs) #118 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Herbie Nichols (3 CDs or 5 LPs) #119 The Pete Johnson/Earl Hines/Teddy Bunn Blue Note Sessions (1 LP) #120 The Complete Recordings of the Paul Desmond Quartet with Jim Hall (4 CDs or 6 LPs) #121 The Complete Blue Note 45 Sessions of Ike Quebec (2 CDs or 3 LPs) #122 The Complete Pacific Jazz Studio Recordings of the Chet Baker Quartet with Russ Freeman (3 CDs or 4 LPs) #123 The Complete Commodore Jazz Recordings, Volume I (23 LPs) #124 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Freddie Redd (2 CDs or 3 LPs) #125 The Complete Atlantic and EMI Jazz Recordings of Shorty Rogers (4 CDs or 6 LPs) #126 The Complete Johnny Hodges Recordings 1951-1955 (6 LPs) #127 The Complete Candid Recordings of Cecil Taylor and Buell Neidlinger (4 CDs or 6 LPs) #128 The Complete Commodore Jazz Recordings, Volume II (23 LPs) #130 The Complete Recordings of T-Bone Walker 1940-1954 (6 CDs or 9 LPs) #131 The Complete Recordings of the Stan Getz Quintet with Jimmy Raney (3 CDs or 4 LPs) #132 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of George Lewis (3 CDs or 5 LPs) #133 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Grant Green with Sonny Clark (4 CDs or 5 LPs) #134 The Complete Commodore Jazz Recordings, Volume III (20 LPs) #135 The Complete Roulette Live Recordings of Count Basie and His Orchestra (1959-1962) (8 CDs or 12 LPs) #136 Stan Kenton: The Complete Capitol Recordings of the Holman & Russo Charts (4 CDs or 6 LPs) #137 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Larry Young (6 CDs or 9 LPs) #138 The Complete Capitol Recordings of the Nat King Cole Trio (18 CDs or 27 LPs) #139 The Complete Candid Otis Spann/Lightnin’ Hopkins Sessions (3 CDs or 5 LPs) #140 The Complete Master Jazz Piano Series (4 CDs or 6 LPs) #141 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Art Blakey’s 1960 Jazz Messengers (6 CDs or 10 LPs) #142 The Complete CBS Studio Recordings of Woody Shaw (3 CDs or 4 LPs) #143 The Complete 1959 CBS Charles Mingus Sessions (4 Q-LPs) #144 The Complete CBS Buck Clayton Jam Sessions (6 CDs or 8 Q-LPs) #145 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Don Cherry (2 CDs or 3 Q-LPs) #146 The Complete Decca Studio Recordings of Louis Armstrong and the All Stars (6 CDs or 8 Q-LPs) #147 The Complete Serge Chaloff Sessions (4 CDs or 5 Q-LPs) #148 The Complete Capitol Small Group Recordings of Benny Goodman 1944-1955 (4 CDs or 6 Q-LPs) #149 The Complete Roulette Studio Recordings of Count Basie and His Orchestra (10 CDs or 15 Q-LPs) #150 The Complete Blue Note 1964-66 Jackie McLean Sessions (4 CDs or 6 Q-LPs) #151 The Complete Solid State Recordings of the Thad Jones/Mel Lewis Orchestra (5 CDs or 7 Q-LPs) #152 The Complete CBS Recording of Eddie Condon and His All Stars (5 CDs or 7 Q-LPs) #153 The Complete Aladdin Recordings of Charles Brown (5 CDs or 7 Q-LPs) #154 The Complete February 1957 Jimmy Smith Blue Note Sessions (3CDs or 5 Q-LP) #155 The Complete Aladdin Recordings of Amos Milburn (7 CDs or 10 Q-LPs) #156 The Complete Roulette Recordings of the Maynard Ferguson Orchestra (10 CDs or 14 Q-LPs) #157 The Complete Capitol Recordings Of George Shearing (5 CDs or 7 Q-LPs) #158 Miles Davis: The Complete Plugged Nickel Sessions (10 Q-LPs) #159 The Phil Woods Quartet/Quintet 20th Anniversary Set (5 CDs or 7 Q-LPs) #160 The Complete Capitol Recordings Of Duke Ellington (5 CDs or 7 Q-LPs) #161 – The Complete Blue Note Andrew Hill Sessions (1963-66) (7 CDs or 10 LPs) #162 The Complete Blue Note Lee Morgan Fifties Sessions (4 CDs or 6 LPs) #163 The Complete Capitol Studio Recordings of Stan Kenton 1943-47 (7 CDs or 10 Q-LPs) #164 Miles Davis/Gil Evans: The Complete Columbia Studio Recordings (11 LPs) #165 The Complete Illinois Jacquet Sessions 1945-50 (4 CDs or 6 LPs) #166 The Complete Blue Note/UA Curtis Fuller Sessions (3 CDs or 5 LPs) #167 The Complete Blue Note Sam Rivers Sessions (3 CDs or 5 LPs) #168 The Complete Capitol Fifties Jack Teagarden Sessions (4 CDs or 6 LPs) #169 The Complete Columbia J.J. Johnson Small Group Sessions (7 CDs or 11 LPs) #170 Classic Capitol Jazz Sessions (12 CDs or 19 LPs) #171 Bill Evans: The Final Village Vanguard Sessions-June 1980 (10 LPs) #172 The Complete Blue Note/UA/Roulette Recordings of Thad Jones (3 CDs or 5 Q-LPs) #173 The Complete Verve Recordings of the Teddy Wilson Trio (5 CDs or 8 Q-LPs) #174 The Complete Atlantic Recordings of Lennie Tristano, Lee Konitz & Warne Marsh (6 CDs or 10 Q-LPs) #175 The Complete Pacific Jazz Recordings of the Chico Hamilton Quintet (6 CDs or 9 Q-LPs) #176 The Complete Capitol & Atlantic Recordings of Jimmy Giuffre (6 CDs or 10 Q-LPs) #177 The Complete Studio Recordings Of The Miles Davis Quintet 1965 – June 1968 (10 Q-LPs) #178 The Complete Blue Note Blue Mitchell Sessions (1963-67) (4 CDs or 6 Q-LPs) #179 The Atlantic New Orleans Jazz Sessions ( 4 CDs or 6 LPs) #180 The Pacific Jazz Bud Shank Studio Sessions (1956-61) (5 CDs or 7 LPs) #181 The Complete Blue Note Hank Mobley Fifties Sessions (6 CDs or 10 LPs) #182 The Complete Verve/Clef Charlie Ventura/Flip Philips Studio Sessions (6 CDs or 9 Q-LPs) #183 Miles Davis: The Complete Bitches Brew (6 Q-LPs) #184 The Complete Peggy Lee & June Christy Capitol Transcription Sessions (5 CDs) #185 Kenton Presents: Bob Cooper, Bill Holman & Frank Rosolino (4 CDs) #186 The Complete Verve Stuff Smith Sessions (4 CDs) #187 The Complete H.R.S. Sessions (6 CDs) #188 The Complete Anita O’Day Verve/Clef Sessions (9 CDs) #189 The Complete Kid Ory Verve Sessions (8 CDs) #190 The Complete Django Reinhardt & Quintet Of The Hot Club of France Swing/HMV Sessions (1936-1948) (6 CDs) #191 The Complete Columbia Recordings Of Miles Davis With John Coltrane (9 Q-LPs) #192 The Complete Capitol Recordings of Gene Krupa & Harry James (7 CDs) #193 Duke Ellington: The Reprise Studio Recordings (5 CDs) #194 The Complete Blue Note Donald Byrd/Pepper Adams Studio Sessions (4 CDs) #195 The Complete Blue Note Elvin Jones Sessions (8 CDs) #196 The Complete Capitol Recordings of Woody Herman (6 CDs) #197 The Complete Blue Note Horace Parlan Session (5 CDs or 8 Q-LPs) #198 The Complete Pacific Jazz Recordings of Gerald Wilson and His Orchestra (5 CDs) #199 The Columbia Jazz Piano Moods Sessions (7 CDs) #200 The Complete Verve Johnny Hodges Small Group Sessions 1956-61 (6 CDs) #201 The Complete Mercury Max Roach Plus Four Sessions (7 CDs) #202 The Complete Vee Jay Lee Morgan & Wayne Shorter Sessions (6 CDs) #203 The Complete Capitol Four Freshmen Fifties Sessions (9 CDs) #204 The Complete Columbia Recordings of Mildred Bailey (10 CDs) #205 The Complete Vee Jay Paul Chambers & Wynton Kelly Sessions 1959-61 #206 Classic Columbia Condon Mob Sessions (8 CDs) #207 The Complete Pacific Jazz Joe Pass Quartet Sessions (5 CDs) #208 The Complete Roost Sonny Stitt Studio Sessions (9 CDs) #209 Miles Davis: The Complete In A Silent Way Sessions (5 Q-LPs) #210 The Complete Capitol Bobby Hackett Solo Sessions (5 CDs) #211 The Complete OKeh & Brunswick Bix Beiderbecke, Frank Trumbauer & Jack Teagarden Sessions 1924-1936 (7 CDs) #212 Blue Note Stanley Turrentine Qt./Sxt. Sessions (5 CDs) #213 Classic Columbia And OKeh Joe Venuti And Eddie Lang Sessions (8 CDs) #214 The Complete Roulette Sarah Vaughan Studio Sessions (8 CDs) #215 The Complete Blue Note Lou Donaldson Sessions 1957-1960 (6 CDs) #216 The Complete Johnny Smith Roost Sessions (8 CDs) #217 The Complete Brunswick & Vocalion Recordings Of Louis Prima And Wingy Manone 1924-1937 (6 CDs) #218 The Complete Roulette Jack Teagarden Sessions (4 CDs) #219 The Complete Bruswick, Parlophone and Vocalion Bunny Berigan Sessions (7 CDs) #220 Miles Davis: The Complete Blackhawk Sessions (6 Q-LPs) #221 The Complete Verve Gerry Mulligan Concert Band Sessions (4 CDs) #222 The Complete Verve Roy Eldridge Studio Sessions (7 CDs) #223 The Complete Columbia Recordings of Woody Herman And His Orchestra & Woodchoppers (1945-1947) (7 CDs) #224 The Complete Verve Tal Farlow Sessions (7 CDs) #225 The Complete Argo/Mercury Art Farmer/Benny Golson/Jazztet Sessions (7 CDs) #226 Miles Davis: The Complete 1963-1964 Columbia Recordings (10 Q-LPs) #227 The Complete Roulette Dinah Washington Sessions (5 CDs) #228 Columbia Small Group Swing Sessions 1953-1962 (8 CDs) #229 The Complete Clef/Verve Count Basie Fifties Studio Recordings (8 CDs) #230 The Jazz Crusaders: The Pacific Jazz Quintet Studio Sessions (6 CDs) #231 Thelonious Monk & John Coltrane At Carnegie Hall (1 LP) #232 The Classic Argo, Emarcy & Verve Small Group Buddy Rich Session (7 CDs) #233 The Oliver Nelson Verve/Impulse Big Band Sessions (6 CDs) #234 The Verve/Philips Dizzy Gillespie Small Group Sessions (7 CDs) #235 Duke Ellington: The Complete 1936-1940 Variety, Vocaliaon & OKeh Small Group Reordings (7 CDs) #236 Classic Chu Berry Columbia And Victor Sessions (7 CDs) #237 The Quincy Jones ABC/Mercury Big Band Jazz Sessions (5 CDs) #238 The Complete Lionel Hampton Victor Sessions 1937-41 (5 CDs) #239 The Lester Young Count Basie Sessions 1936-1940 (4 CDs) #240 The Columbia and OKeh Benny Goodman Orchestra Sessions (7 CDs) #241 The Complete Clef/Mercury Studio Recordings of tThe Oscar Peterson Trio (1951-1953) (7 CDs) #242 The Complete Arista Recordings of Anthony Braxton (8 CDs) #243 The Complete Louis Armstrong Decca Sessions 1935-1946 (7 CDs) #244 Classic Artie Shaw Bluebird And Victor Sessions (7 CDs) #245 The Bing Crosby CBS Radio Recordings 1954-56 (7 CDs) #246 The Complete Ahmad Jamal Trio Argo Sessions (8 CDs) #247 The Novus & Columbia Recordings of Henry Threadgill & Air (8 CDs) #248 The Complete 1932-1940 Bruns./Col./Master Rec. of Ellington and His Famous Orchestra (11 CDs) #249 Complete Atlantic Studio Modern Jazz Quartet 1956-64 (7 CDs) #250 The Complete Jimmie Lunceford Decca Sessions (7 CDs) #251 Classic Coleman Hawkins Sessions 1922-1947 (8 CDs) #252 Chick Webb & Ella Fitzgerald Decca Sessions (1934-41) (8 CDs) #253 Charles Mingus – The Jazz Workshop Concerts 1964-65 (7 CDs) #254 Classic Earl Hines Sessions 1928-1945 (7 CDs) #255 Woody Shaw: The Complete Muse Sessions (7 CDs) #256 The Complete Clifford Jordan Strata-East Sessions (7 CDs) #257 The Columbia and RCA Victor Live Recordings of Louis Armstrong and the All Stars (9 CDs) #258 The Rosemary Clooney CBS Radio Recordings 1955-61 (5 CDs) #259 Eddie Condon & Bud Freeman: Complete Commodore & Decca Sessions (8 CDs) #260 The Complete Dial Modern Jazz Sessions (9 CDs) #261 The Complete Bee Hive Sessions (12 CDs) #262 Classic James P. Johnson Sessions (6 CDs) #263 Classic Columbia, OKeh and Vocalion Lester Young With Count Basie 1936-1947 (8 CDs) #264 Classic Savoy Be-Bop Sessions 1945-49 (10 CDs) #265 Classic Brunswick & Columbia Teddy Wilson Sessions 1934-1942 (7 CDs) #267 The Complete Woody Herman Decca, Mars and MGM Sessions (1943-1954) (7 CDs) #268 The Complete Hank Mobley Blue Note Sessions 1963-70 (7 CDs) #269 Paul Desmond: The Complete 1975 Toronto Recordings (7 CDs) Vinyl Set Series #3001 The Complete Thelonious Monk At The It Club (4 LPs) #3002 Ella & Duke at the Cote D’Azur (3 LPs) #3003 Stan Getz:The 1953-54 Norgran Studio Sessions (4 LPs) #3004 The Clifford Brown & Max Roach Emarcy Albums (4 LPs) #3005 John Coltrane: The Complete Sun Ship Session (3 LPs) #3006 Roland Kirk: The Limelight/Verve Albums (4 LPs) #3007 Louis Armstrong & The All Stars: Newport 1956 & 1958 (4 LPs) #3008 Gerry Mulligan: The Emarcy Sextet Recordings(5 LPs) Mosaic Selects: Limited Edition 3 CD sets MS-001 Mosaic Select: Grachan Moncur MS-002 Mosaic Select: Carmell Jones MS-003 Mosaic Select: Bennie Green MS-004 Mosaic Select: Randy Weston MS-005 Mosaic Select: Paul Chambers MS-006 Mosaic Select: John Patton MS-007 Mosaic Select: Curtis Amy MS-008 Mosaic Select: Duke Pearson MS-009 Mosaic Select: Bob Brookmeyer MS-010 Mosaic Select: Bud Shank/Bob Cooper MS-011 Mosaic Select: Dizzy Reece MS-012 Mosaic Select: Dave Liebman/Richie Beirach MS-013 Mosaic Select: Don Pullen MS-014 Mosaic Select: Dexter Gordon MS-015 Mosaic Select: Art Pepper MS-016 Mosaic Select: Andrew Hill MS-017 Mosaic Select: Johnny Richards MS-018 Mosaic Select: Freddie Slack MS-019 Mosaic Select: Pacific Jazz Piano Trios MS-020 Mosaic Select: Charles Tolliver MS-021 Mosaic Select: Gerry Mulligan MS-022 Mosaic Select: Sidney Bechet MS-023 Mosaic Select: Andrew Hill: Solo MS-024 Mosaic Select: Tony Williams MS-025 Mosaic Select: McCoy Tyner MS-026 Mosaic Select: Bobby Hutcherson MS-027 Mosaic Select: Al Cohn, Joe Newman & Freddie Green MS-028 Mosaic Select: Johnny Mercer MS-029 Mosaic Select: Onzy Matthews MS-030 Mosaic Select: Boogie Woogie MS-031 Mosaic Select: Woody Herman MS-032 Mosaic Select: Pendulum MS-033 Mosaic Select: Toshiko Akiyoshi-Lew Tabackin Big Band MS-034 Mosaic Select: Denny Zeitlin MS-035 Mosaic Select: John Handy MS-036 Mosaic Select: John Carter & Bobby Bradford MS-037 Mosaic Select: Charles Tolliver Big Band MS-038 Mosaic Select: Sam Rivers Rivbea Orchestra Mosaic Singles MCD-1001 Duke Ellington: Cosmic Scene MCD-1003 Al Cohn/Bill Perkins/Richie Kamuca: The Brothers! MCD-1004 J.J. Johnson: J.J.! MCD-1005 Art Blakey: Hard Bop! MCD-1006 Charles Lloyd: Of Course, Of Course MCD-1008 Lee Wiley: West Of The Moon MCD-1009 Buddy Rich: Rich In London MCD-1009 Art Farmer: A Time And A Place MCD-1011 Jimmy Witherspoon: Goin’To Kansas City MCD-1012 Various: The Jazz Piano MCD-1013 Woody Herman: Woody’s Winners MCD-1014 Duke Eington: Newport 1958 MCD-1015 J.J. Johnson & Kai Winding: Trombone For Two MCD-1017 Jonah Jones: At The Embers MCD-1018 George Wein: IS Alive And Well MCD-1019 The Helen Merrill/Dick Katz Sessions MCD-1020 Helen Merrill: Casa Forte Yeah, they have struggled to figure things out. I bought the Monk and Mulllgan/Baker sets right off (don't know what year that was, but if you do, tell me; I'm 80 now and can do the math.) Another slam dunk for me was Herbie Nichols. Lord knows how many Mosaics I have now, but a lot. Quote
JSngry Posted April 1, 2023 Report Posted April 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Eric said: #101 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Thelonious Monk (4 LPs) #102 The Complete Pacific Jazz and Capitol Recordings of the Original Gerry Mulligan Quartet and Tentette with Chet Baker (3 CDs or 5 LPs) #103 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Albert Ammons and Meade Lux Lewis (2 CDs or 3 LPs) #104 The Complete Blue Note and Pacific Jazz Recordings of Clifford Brown (5 LPs) #105 The Complete Pacific Jazz Small Group Recordings of Art Pepper (3 LPs) #106 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of the Tina Brooks Quintet (4 LPs) #107 The Complete Blue Note Forties Recordings of Ike Quebec and John Hardee (3 CDs or 4 LPs) #108 The Complete Recordings of The Port of Harlem Jazzmen (1 LP) #109 The Complete Edmond Hall/James P. Johnson/Sidney De Paris/Vic Dickenson Blue Note Sessions (4 CDs or 6 LPs) #110 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Sidney Bechet (4 CDs or 6 LPs) #111 The Complete Candid Recordings of Charles Mingus (3 CDs or 4 LPs) #112 The Complete Black Lion Vogue Recordings of Thelonious Monk (3 CDs or 4 LPs) #113 The Complete Pacific Jazz Live Recordings of the Chet Baker Quartet with Russ Freeman (3 CDs or 4 LPs) #114 The Complete Art Hodes Blue Note Sessions (4 CDs or 5 LPs) #115 The Benny Morton/Jimmy Hamilton Blue Note Swingtets (1 LP) #116 The Complete Bud Powell Blue Note Recordings (1949-1958) (5 LPs) #117 The Complete Verve Recordings of the Buddy De Franco Quartet/Quintet with Sonny Clark (4 CDs or 5 LPs) #118 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Herbie Nichols (3 CDs or 5 LPs) #119 The Pete Johnson/Earl Hines/Teddy Bunn Blue Note Sessions (1 LP) #120 The Complete Recordings of the Paul Desmond Quartet with Jim Hall (4 CDs or 6 LPs) #121 The Complete Blue Note 45 Sessions of Ike Quebec (2 CDs or 3 LPs) #122 The Complete Pacific Jazz Studio Recordings of the Chet Baker Quartet with Russ Freeman (3 CDs or 4 LPs) #123 The Complete Commodore Jazz Recordings, Volume I (23 LPs) #124 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Freddie Redd (2 CDs or 3 LPs) #125 The Complete Atlantic and EMI Jazz Recordings of Shorty Rogers (4 CDs or 6 LPs) #126 The Complete Johnny Hodges Recordings 1951-1955 (6 LPs) #127 The Complete Candid Recordings of Cecil Taylor and Buell Neidlinger (4 CDs or 6 LPs) #128 The Complete Commodore Jazz Recordings, Volume II (23 LPs) #130 The Complete Recordings of T-Bone Walker 1940-1954 (6 CDs or 9 LPs) #131 The Complete Recordings of the Stan Getz Quintet with Jimmy Raney (3 CDs or 4 LPs) #132 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of George Lewis (3 CDs or 5 LPs) #133 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Grant Green with Sonny Clark (4 CDs or 5 LPs) #134 The Complete Commodore Jazz Recordings, Volume III (20 LPs) #135 The Complete Roulette Live Recordings of Count Basie and His Orchestra (1959-1962) (8 CDs or 12 LPs) #136 Stan Kenton: The Complete Capitol Recordings of the Holman & Russo Charts (4 CDs or 6 LPs) #137 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Larry Young (6 CDs or 9 LPs) #138 The Complete Capitol Recordings of the Nat King Cole Trio (18 CDs or 27 LPs) #139 The Complete Candid Otis Spann/Lightnin’ Hopkins Sessions (3 CDs or 5 LPs) #140 The Complete Master Jazz Piano Series (4 CDs or 6 LPs) #141 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Art Blakey’s 1960 Jazz Messengers (6 CDs or 10 LPs) #142 The Complete CBS Studio Recordings of Woody Shaw (3 CDs or 4 LPs) #143 The Complete 1959 CBS Charles Mingus Sessions (4 Q-LPs) #144 The Complete CBS Buck Clayton Jam Sessions (6 CDs or 8 Q-LPs) #145 The Complete Blue Note Recordings of Don Cherry (2 CDs or 3 Q-LPs) #146 The Complete Decca Studio Recordings of Louis Armstrong and the All Stars (6 CDs or 8 Q-LPs) #147 The Complete Serge Chaloff Sessions (4 CDs or 5 Q-LPs) #148 The Complete Capitol Small Group Recordings of Benny Goodman 1944-1955 (4 CDs or 6 Q-LPs) #149 The Complete Roulette Studio Recordings of Count Basie and His Orchestra (10 CDs or 15 Q-LPs) #150 The Complete Blue Note 1964-66 Jackie McLean Sessions (4 CDs or 6 Q-LPs) #151 The Complete Solid State Recordings of the Thad Jones/Mel Lewis Orchestra (5 CDs or 7 Q-LPs) #152 The Complete CBS Recording of Eddie Condon and His All Stars (5 CDs or 7 Q-LPs) #153 The Complete Aladdin Recordings of Charles Brown (5 CDs or 7 Q-LPs) #154 The Complete February 1957 Jimmy Smith Blue Note Sessions (3CDs or 5 Q-LP) #155 The Complete Aladdin Recordings of Amos Milburn (7 CDs or 10 Q-LPs) #156 The Complete Roulette Recordings of the Maynard Ferguson Orchestra (10 CDs or 14 Q-LPs) #157 The Complete Capitol Recordings Of George Shearing (5 CDs or 7 Q-LPs) #158 Miles Davis: The Complete Plugged Nickel Sessions (10 Q-LPs) #159 The Phil Woods Quartet/Quintet 20th Anniversary Set (5 CDs or 7 Q-LPs) #160 The Complete Capitol Recordings Of Duke Ellington (5 CDs or 7 Q-LPs) #161 – The Complete Blue Note Andrew Hill Sessions (1963-66) (7 CDs or 10 LPs) #162 The Complete Blue Note Lee Morgan Fifties Sessions (4 CDs or 6 LPs) #163 The Complete Capitol Studio Recordings of Stan Kenton 1943-47 (7 CDs or 10 Q-LPs) #164 Miles Davis/Gil Evans: The Complete Columbia Studio Recordings (11 LPs) #165 The Complete Illinois Jacquet Sessions 1945-50 (4 CDs or 6 LPs) #166 The Complete Blue Note/UA Curtis Fuller Sessions (3 CDs or 5 LPs) #167 The Complete Blue Note Sam Rivers Sessions (3 CDs or 5 LPs) #168 The Complete Capitol Fifties Jack Teagarden Sessions (4 CDs or 6 LPs) #169 The Complete Columbia J.J. Johnson Small Group Sessions (7 CDs or 11 LPs) #170 Classic Capitol Jazz Sessions (12 CDs or 19 LPs) #171 Bill Evans: The Final Village Vanguard Sessions-June 1980 (10 LPs) #172 The Complete Blue Note/UA/Roulette Recordings of Thad Jones (3 CDs or 5 Q-LPs) #173 The Complete Verve Recordings of the Teddy Wilson Trio (5 CDs or 8 Q-LPs) #174 The Complete Atlantic Recordings of Lennie Tristano, Lee Konitz & Warne Marsh (6 CDs or 10 Q-LPs) #175 The Complete Pacific Jazz Recordings of the Chico Hamilton Quintet (6 CDs or 9 Q-LPs) #176 The Complete Capitol & Atlantic Recordings of Jimmy Giuffre (6 CDs or 10 Q-LPs) #177 The Complete Studio Recordings Of The Miles Davis Quintet 1965 – June 1968 (10 Q-LPs) #178 The Complete Blue Note Blue Mitchell Sessions (1963-67) (4 CDs or 6 Q-LPs) #179 The Atlantic New Orleans Jazz Sessions ( 4 CDs or 6 LPs) #180 The Pacific Jazz Bud Shank Studio Sessions (1956-61) (5 CDs or 7 LPs) #181 The Complete Blue Note Hank Mobley Fifties Sessions (6 CDs or 10 LPs) #182 The Complete Verve/Clef Charlie Ventura/Flip Philips Studio Sessions (6 CDs or 9 Q-LPs) #183 Miles Davis: The Complete Bitches Brew (6 Q-LPs) #184 The Complete Peggy Lee & June Christy Capitol Transcription Sessions (5 CDs) #185 Kenton Presents: Bob Cooper, Bill Holman & Frank Rosolino (4 CDs) #186 The Complete Verve Stuff Smith Sessions (4 CDs) #187 The Complete H.R.S. Sessions (6 CDs) #188 The Complete Anita O’Day Verve/Clef Sessions (9 CDs) #189 The Complete Kid Ory Verve Sessions (8 CDs) #190 The Complete Django Reinhardt & Quintet Of The Hot Club of France Swing/HMV Sessions (1936-1948) (6 CDs) #191 The Complete Columbia Recordings Of Miles Davis With John Coltrane (9 Q-LPs) #192 The Complete Capitol Recordings of Gene Krupa & Harry James (7 CDs) #193 Duke Ellington: The Reprise Studio Recordings (5 CDs) #194 The Complete Blue Note Donald Byrd/Pepper Adams Studio Sessions (4 CDs) #195 The Complete Blue Note Elvin Jones Sessions (8 CDs) #196 The Complete Capitol Recordings of Woody Herman (6 CDs) #197 The Complete Blue Note Horace Parlan Session (5 CDs or 8 Q-LPs) #198 The Complete Pacific Jazz Recordings of Gerald Wilson and His Orchestra (5 CDs) #199 The Columbia Jazz Piano Moods Sessions (7 CDs) #200 The Complete Verve Johnny Hodges Small Group Sessions 1956-61 (6 CDs) #201 The Complete Mercury Max Roach Plus Four Sessions (7 CDs) #202 The Complete Vee Jay Lee Morgan & Wayne Shorter Sessions (6 CDs) #203 The Complete Capitol Four Freshmen Fifties Sessions (9 CDs) #204 The Complete Columbia Recordings of Mildred Bailey (10 CDs) #205 The Complete Vee Jay Paul Chambers & Wynton Kelly Sessions 1959-61 #206 Classic Columbia Condon Mob Sessions (8 CDs) #207 The Complete Pacific Jazz Joe Pass Quartet Sessions (5 CDs) #208 The Complete Roost Sonny Stitt Studio Sessions (9 CDs) #209 Miles Davis: The Complete In A Silent Way Sessions (5 Q-LPs) #210 The Complete Capitol Bobby Hackett Solo Sessions (5 CDs) #211 The Complete OKeh & Brunswick Bix Beiderbecke, Frank Trumbauer & Jack Teagarden Sessions 1924-1936 (7 CDs) #212 Blue Note Stanley Turrentine Qt./Sxt. Sessions (5 CDs) #213 Classic Columbia And OKeh Joe Venuti And Eddie Lang Sessions (8 CDs) #214 The Complete Roulette Sarah Vaughan Studio Sessions (8 CDs) #215 The Complete Blue Note Lou Donaldson Sessions 1957-1960 (6 CDs) #216 The Complete Johnny Smith Roost Sessions (8 CDs) #217 The Complete Brunswick & Vocalion Recordings Of Louis Prima And Wingy Manone 1924-1937 (6 CDs) #218 The Complete Roulette Jack Teagarden Sessions (4 CDs) #219 The Complete Bruswick, Parlophone and Vocalion Bunny Berigan Sessions (7 CDs) #220 Miles Davis: The Complete Blackhawk Sessions (6 Q-LPs) #221 The Complete Verve Gerry Mulligan Concert Band Sessions (4 CDs) #222 The Complete Verve Roy Eldridge Studio Sessions (7 CDs) #223 The Complete Columbia Recordings of Woody Herman And His Orchestra & Woodchoppers (1945-1947) (7 CDs) #224 The Complete Verve Tal Farlow Sessions (7 CDs) #225 The Complete Argo/Mercury Art Farmer/Benny Golson/Jazztet Sessions (7 CDs) #226 Miles Davis: The Complete 1963-1964 Columbia Recordings (10 Q-LPs) #227 The Complete Roulette Dinah Washington Sessions (5 CDs) #228 Columbia Small Group Swing Sessions 1953-1962 (8 CDs) #229 The Complete Clef/Verve Count Basie Fifties Studio Recordings (8 CDs) #230 The Jazz Crusaders: The Pacific Jazz Quintet Studio Sessions (6 CDs) #231 Thelonious Monk & John Coltrane At Carnegie Hall (1 LP) #232 The Classic Argo, Emarcy & Verve Small Group Buddy Rich Session (7 CDs) #233 The Oliver Nelson Verve/Impulse Big Band Sessions (6 CDs) #234 The Verve/Philips Dizzy Gillespie Small Group Sessions (7 CDs) #235 Duke Ellington: The Complete 1936-1940 Variety, Vocaliaon & OKeh Small Group Reordings (7 CDs) #236 Classic Chu Berry Columbia And Victor Sessions (7 CDs) #237 The Quincy Jones ABC/Mercury Big Band Jazz Sessions (5 CDs) #238 The Complete Lionel Hampton Victor Sessions 1937-41 (5 CDs) #239 The Lester Young Count Basie Sessions 1936-1940 (4 CDs) #240 The Columbia and OKeh Benny Goodman Orchestra Sessions (7 CDs) #241 The Complete Clef/Mercury Studio Recordings of tThe Oscar Peterson Trio (1951-1953) (7 CDs) #242 The Complete Arista Recordings of Anthony Braxton (8 CDs) #243 The Complete Louis Armstrong Decca Sessions 1935-1946 (7 CDs) #244 Classic Artie Shaw Bluebird And Victor Sessions (7 CDs) #245 The Bing Crosby CBS Radio Recordings 1954-56 (7 CDs) #246 The Complete Ahmad Jamal Trio Argo Sessions (8 CDs) #247 The Novus & Columbia Recordings of Henry Threadgill & Air (8 CDs) #248 The Complete 1932-1940 Bruns./Col./Master Rec. of Ellington and His Famous Orchestra (11 CDs) #249 Complete Atlantic Studio Modern Jazz Quartet 1956-64 (7 CDs) #250 The Complete Jimmie Lunceford Decca Sessions (7 CDs) #251 Classic Coleman Hawkins Sessions 1922-1947 (8 CDs) #252 Chick Webb & Ella Fitzgerald Decca Sessions (1934-41) (8 CDs) #253 Charles Mingus – The Jazz Workshop Concerts 1964-65 (7 CDs) #254 Classic Earl Hines Sessions 1928-1945 (7 CDs) #255 Woody Shaw: The Complete Muse Sessions (7 CDs) #256 The Complete Clifford Jordan Strata-East Sessions (7 CDs) #257 The Columbia and RCA Victor Live Recordings of Louis Armstrong and the All Stars (9 CDs) #258 The Rosemary Clooney CBS Radio Recordings 1955-61 (5 CDs) #259 Eddie Condon & Bud Freeman: Complete Commodore & Decca Sessions (8 CDs) #260 The Complete Dial Modern Jazz Sessions (9 CDs) #261 The Complete Bee Hive Sessions (12 CDs) #262 Classic James P. Johnson Sessions (6 CDs) #263 Classic Columbia, OKeh and Vocalion Lester Young With Count Basie 1936-1947 (8 CDs) #264 Classic Savoy Be-Bop Sessions 1945-49 (10 CDs) #265 Classic Brunswick & Columbia Teddy Wilson Sessions 1934-1942 (7 CDs) #267 The Complete Woody Herman Decca, Mars and MGM Sessions (1943-1954) (7 CDs) #268 The Complete Hank Mobley Blue Note Sessions 1963-70 (7 CDs) #269 Paul Desmond: The Complete 1975 Toronto Recordings (7 CDs) Vinyl Set Series #3001 The Complete Thelonious Monk At The It Club (4 LPs) #3002 Ella & Duke at the Cote D’Azur (3 LPs) #3003 Stan Getz:The 1953-54 Norgran Studio Sessions (4 LPs) #3004 The Clifford Brown & Max Roach Emarcy Albums (4 LPs) #3005 John Coltrane: The Complete Sun Ship Session (3 LPs) #3006 Roland Kirk: The Limelight/Verve Albums (4 LPs) #3007 Louis Armstrong & The All Stars: Newport 1956 & 1958 (4 LPs) #3008 Gerry Mulligan: The Emarcy Sextet Recordings(5 LPs) Mosaic Selects: Limited Edition 3 CD sets MS-001 Mosaic Select: Grachan Moncur MS-002 Mosaic Select: Carmell Jones MS-003 Mosaic Select: Bennie Green MS-004 Mosaic Select: Randy Weston MS-005 Mosaic Select: Paul Chambers MS-006 Mosaic Select: John Patton MS-007 Mosaic Select: Curtis Amy MS-008 Mosaic Select: Duke Pearson MS-009 Mosaic Select: Bob Brookmeyer MS-010 Mosaic Select: Bud Shank/Bob Cooper MS-011 Mosaic Select: Dizzy Reece MS-012 Mosaic Select: Dave Liebman/Richie Beirach MS-013 Mosaic Select: Don Pullen MS-014 Mosaic Select: Dexter Gordon MS-015 Mosaic Select: Art Pepper MS-016 Mosaic Select: Andrew Hill MS-017 Mosaic Select: Johnny Richards MS-018 Mosaic Select: Freddie Slack MS-019 Mosaic Select: Pacific Jazz Piano Trios MS-020 Mosaic Select: Charles Tolliver MS-021 Mosaic Select: Gerry Mulligan MS-022 Mosaic Select: Sidney Bechet MS-023 Mosaic Select: Andrew Hill: Solo MS-024 Mosaic Select: Tony Williams MS-025 Mosaic Select: McCoy Tyner MS-026 Mosaic Select: Bobby Hutcherson MS-027 Mosaic Select: Al Cohn, Joe Newman & Freddie Green MS-028 Mosaic Select: Johnny Mercer MS-029 Mosaic Select: Onzy Matthews MS-030 Mosaic Select: Boogie Woogie MS-031 Mosaic Select: Woody Herman MS-032 Mosaic Select: Pendulum MS-033 Mosaic Select: Toshiko Akiyoshi-Lew Tabackin Big Band MS-034 Mosaic Select: Denny Zeitlin MS-035 Mosaic Select: John Handy MS-036 Mosaic Select: John Carter & Bobby Bradford MS-037 Mosaic Select: Charles Tolliver Big Band MS-038 Mosaic Select: Sam Rivers Rivbea Orchestra Mosaic Singles MCD-1001 Duke Ellington: Cosmic Scene MCD-1003 Al Cohn/Bill Perkins/Richie Kamuca: The Brothers! MCD-1004 J.J. Johnson: J.J.! MCD-1005 Art Blakey: Hard Bop! MCD-1006 Charles Lloyd: Of Course, Of Course MCD-1008 Lee Wiley: West Of The Moon MCD-1009 Buddy Rich: Rich In London MCD-1009 Art Farmer: A Time And A Place MCD-1011 Jimmy Witherspoon: Goin’To Kansas City MCD-1012 Various: The Jazz Piano MCD-1013 Woody Herman: Woody’s Winners MCD-1014 Duke Eington: Newport 1958 MCD-1015 J.J. Johnson & Kai Winding: Trombone For Two MCD-1017 Jonah Jones: At The Embers MCD-1018 George Wein: IS Alive And Well MCD-1019 The Helen Merrill/Dick Katz Sessions MCD-1020 Helen Merrill: Casa Forte Yeah, they have struggled to figure things out. You left out the ill-fated "Mosaic Contemporary" attempt. Quote
Eric Posted April 1, 2023 Report Posted April 1, 2023 1 hour ago, JSngry said: You left out the ill-fated "Mosaic Contemporary" attempt. Ha-ha, yes this was a copy and paste from their web site - they must have excised it too. Having said that, I do have a couple cool George Benson CDs from the series - and didn't they re-issue Super Blue by Freddie Hubbard? And the Zawinul record? Quote
JSngry Posted April 1, 2023 Report Posted April 1, 2023 It was in no way as horrible as the reactionaries wanted everybody else to think. Quote
mjzee Posted April 2, 2023 Report Posted April 2, 2023 On 3/31/2023 at 7:52 PM, Teasing the Korean said: I prefer artfully arranged track lists, and I don't like it when the original LP sequence is replaced by chronological order of recording. And I REALLY hate it when multiple takes of the same tune are presented together. I don't think they've done this in years. They now have tracks in the order of the original albums, with strict discography relegated to the liner notes. 9 hours ago, miles65 said: I went through the Frankie Newton disco on the JazzArcheology.com - Your Guide to the Treasures of Vintage Jazz | JazzArcheology.com site. Frankie recorded for a lot of labels. Between 1929-1939 he recorded 85 sides (including 9 without a FN solo) for labels now owned by Sony. The rest is scattered over Decca, Blue Note, Commodore, Asch, Savoy, National and Disc. I'm afraid not much chance for a Mosaic. This would be perfect for a Fresh Sound release. Quote
Stompin at the Savoy Posted April 2, 2023 Report Posted April 2, 2023 5 hours ago, Teasing the Korean said: Completely agree. Most of those are pricey box sets, and hardly any of them are singles. Actually they are not all that pricey. When I first started getting them I think they were something like $15 per disk and more recently it has been something like $17 per disk. Which is less than the $20 single reissues you mentioned earlier. If you buy a bunch of those, it actually costs more than a Mosaic box. It really depends on how you feel about large sets, complete xyz, etc. Quote
Face of the Bass Posted April 2, 2023 Report Posted April 2, 2023 Genuine question: Thirty years ago, Mosaic was releasing sets from the 1960s. Is there a business reason why they can't release sets from the 1990s now? Or is it just that they want to maintain the impression that historically important jazz ended in the 1960s? 6 hours ago, Larry Kart said: At the juncture we seem to be at, I think it would be a good idea to look back at the history of Mosaic and ask ourselves, as well as the folks that be at Mosaic, which sets and which kinds of sets (big boxes, Selects, etc.) did the best -- economically and/or in terms of satisfying strongly felt needs within the community, even if such sets didn't always generate great sales. I think that up to a point almost all the early sets were slam-dunks from one point of view or another: Muillgan/Baker; Clifford Brown; Blakey 1960s; Buck Clayton Jam Sessions; L. Hampton Victors; Hodges small groups; Blue Note Elvin; Maynard Ferguson Roulette; Thad and Mel; Lunceford Deccas, Tristano, Konitz, Marsh, Atlantics, the Armstrong sets, Basie/Lester Young, Chu Berry, etc. Two possible deviations from whatever the general Mosaic model was were Tina Brooks and Freddie Redd, and both of those were blessings in my book. Another blessing that recently just dropped from the trees was the "private" Tristano set. That said, I think that there can be little doubt that failing further such pieces of good luck, we're now hard-pressed for slam-dunks, and Mosaic without slam-dunks is ill ease to say the least. Now the old or original Mosaic model was eminently sound, I think -- both in terms of filling vital needs for the jazz community snd probably (I don't have the figures of course) economically sound as well. Can Mosaic more or less go on as it has before on what might be thought of as a reduced diet of some sort? If not what alterations to what seems to have been the Mosaic model would make sense -- -- in terms of filling community needs and significant historical gaps, etc? Notably broadening the jazz aspect of Mosaic might be/probably would be self-defeating; that this is more or less a purist endeavor seems to be of its essence. For instance, at one time I thought of Sauter-Finnegan, which might be fun, and might even do well sales-wise, but really...? I certainly don't have the answer or answers, but, again, I think that a close look at Mosaic's past might clarify matters. If you look at it, the vast majority of their releases exist within a roughly forty year time span (1930-1970). Those decades have been pretty thoroughly documented, which is why these threads almost never yield any suggestions that I'd be interested in buying. Quote
Teasing the Korean Posted April 2, 2023 Report Posted April 2, 2023 1 hour ago, mjzee said: I don't think they've done this in years. They now have tracks in the order of the original albums, with strict discography relegated to the liner notes. Yes, as I mentioned in my longer, more recent post. 57 minutes ago, Stompin at the Savoy said: Actually they are not all that pricey. When I first started getting them I think they were something like $15 per disk and more recently it has been something like $17 per disk. Which is less than the $20 single reissues you mentioned earlier. If you buy a bunch of those, it actually costs more than a Mosaic box. It really depends on how you feel about large sets, complete xyz, etc. But it's cheaper to buy a single $20 disc than a bunch of $15- or $17-dollar discs at once, which is the problem with Mosaic. Quote
danasgoodstuff Posted April 2, 2023 Report Posted April 2, 2023 I think I have 10 from the main list, 4 selects and 2 singles. Mostly bought used, some new directly from them. Mostly bought awhile ago, right back to the '80s. Not sure what it would take for me to get a new one now. Quote
Larry Kart Posted April 2, 2023 Report Posted April 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Face of the Bass said: Genuine question: Thirty years ago, Mosaic was releasing sets from the 1960s. Is there a business reason why they can't release sets from the 1990s now? Or is it just that they want to maintain the impression that historically important jazz ended in the 1960s? If you look at it, the vast majority of their releases exist within a roughly forty year time span (1930-1970). Those decades have been pretty thoroughly documented, which is why these threads almost never yield any suggestions that I'd be interested in buying. I think the problem (or "problem") may be that the history of consensual connoisseurship in jazz began to slow down, even come close to grinding to a halt in the 1990s, Why that should be, if that is so, is a big question, but without such rich patterns of agreement as to what among the "recently new" is likely to be of lasting value and/or inspires strong attachments of sentiment, what is an enterprise like Mosaic supposed to do.? As to why this happened, if in fact it did, I'd point my finger at the whole ""Young Lions" episode, which in ways I can't quite quantify at the moment (I'd probably need to write a whole darn book to flesh out this intuition) may have profoundly disrupted the organic flow of the music per se, not to mention the complex of living sensibilities and deeds that have alway supported it. Quote
Stompin at the Savoy Posted April 2, 2023 Report Posted April 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Teasing the Korean said: But it's cheaper to buy a single $20 disc than a bunch of $15- or $17-dollar discs at once, which is the problem with Mosaic. I understand your point there about the immediate outlay and I don't know what the jazz buying public wants or needs; possibly you are correct about the business prospects for large box sets. The flip side of your observation - that buying a bunch of disks at once is a problem - is that some of us actually really like getting big, coherent chunks of work all at once. Recently I got interested in Chu Berry and ended up getting the Mosaic. To me this is very good when I think of all the gyrations I would have to go through to hear all this material otherwise, with varying quality masterings. You may be correct that there is an age factor at play here. Younger people are used to buying single tunes as downloads. Their music buying habits are the opposite of us geriatric hippie jazz collecting types? Quote
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