Horace Tapscott & Pan Afrikan People Arkestra - Live at IUCC 11/2678 2CD

[sidewinder]

How about the ‘Pure Pleasure’ releases. Presumably these are legit?

[T.D.]

Dusty Groove now shows the 2-cd on their "Coming soon" page, expected release 15 April.

https://www.dustygroove.com/item/141973/Pan-Afrikan-People-s-Arkestra:Live-At-IUCC-11-26-78-Church-Recordings-Vol-1-2CD-set?cat=jazz&incl_cs=1&no_incl_in=1&sort_order=release_date

 

Edited March 14, 2023 by T.D.

[clifford_thornton]

1 hour ago, sidewinder said:

How about the ‘Pure Pleasure’ releases. Presumably these are legit?

I think they are licensed from various rights holders, yes.

[sidewinder]

5 minutes ago, clifford_thornton said:

I think they are licensed from various rights holders, yes.

Thanks,  Clifford.

[romualdo]

7 hours ago, T.D. said:

Dusty Groove now shows the 2-cd on their "Coming soon" page, expected release 15 April.

https://www.dustygroove.com/item/141973/Pan-Afrikan-People-s-Arkestra:Live-At-IUCC-11-26-78-Church-Recordings-Vol-1-2CD-set?cat=jazz&incl_cs=1&no_incl_in=1&sort_order=release_date

 

you won't find it under Tapscott - it's listed under Pan Afrikan People's Arkestra

[Dodo]

13 hours ago, Dub Modal said:

I'm interested but what's the ratio of instrumental excursions to vocal/choir singing?

Forgive me, but jazz choirs just aren't my thing. Asking bc some of the BFTs have had some Pan Afrikan Arkestra tracks that included choirs and well, it was all good until...

Pan Afrikan Peoples Arkestra recordings from this era are almost entirely instrumental for the most part, vocals are most prominent on Tapscott's recordings with Dwight Trible, who started collaborating with him in the early 90s I believe. If I'm remembering correctly, the vocal sections in the recordings from the 70s (Live at I.U.C.C., The Call, Flight 17, Ancestral Echoes, and Century City Playhouse) are mostly very brief relative to the length of the tunes (Some of these don't even contain tracks with singing, just spoken word). The big band sets from Tapscott where vocals are most prominent are "Moers 1995" (bootleg) and "Why Don't You Listen? LACMA 1998" (PAPA augmented with a choir). Most likely, the only vocals on this new CD will be present on "Lift Every Voice" and probably some spoken word sections here and there. 

[T.D.]

16 minutes ago, Dodo said:

Pan Afrikan Peoples Arkestra recordings from this era are almost entirely instrumental for the most part, vocals are most prominent on Tapscott's recordings with Dwight Trible, who started collaborating with him in the early 90s I believe. If I'm remembering correctly, the vocal sections in the recordings from the 70s (Live at I.U.C.C., The Call, Flight 17, Ancestral Echoes, and Century City Playhouse) are mostly very brief relative to the length of the tunes (Some of these don't even contain tracks with singing, just spoken word). The big band sets from Tapscott where vocals are most prominent are "Moers 1995" (bootleg) and "Why Don't You Listen? LACMA 1998" (PAPA augmented with a choir). Most likely, the only vocals on this new CD will be present on "Lift Every Voice" and probably some spoken word sections here and there. 

Agreed.

Looking at the booklet of the 2-CD P-APA Live at IUCC (1979), it appears that the only piece with choir is the short concluding "Lift Every Voice". By analogy, and recognizing some of the titles, I expect the same from the 1978 recording.

Don't have time to listen to "1979" tonight, may check tomorrow.

Edited March 15, 2023 by T.D.

[Guy Berger]

31 minutes ago, T.D. said:

Agreed.

Looking at the booklet of the 2-CD P-APA Live at IUCC (1979), it appears that the only piece with choir is the short concluding "Lift Every Voice". By analogy, and recognizing some of the titles, I expect the same from the 1978 recording.

Don't have time to listen to "1979" tonight, may check tomorrow.

There is at least one track with a spoken word section. But it’s brief and I like it!

[sidewinder]

14 hours ago, T.D. said:

Dusty Groove now shows the 2-cd on their "Coming soon" page, expected release 15 April.

https://www.dustygroove.com/item/141973/Pan-Afrikan-People-s-Arkestra:Live-At-IUCC-11-26-78-Church-Recordings-Vol-1-2CD-set?cat=jazz&incl_cs=1&no_incl_in=1&sort_order=release_date

 

That will reduce the numbers count, for sure !  I think there’s probably a fair chance that JazzMessengers will get it in as well.

[Dub Modal]

7 hours ago, Dodo said:

Pan Afrikan Peoples Arkestra recordings from this era are almost entirely instrumental for the most part, vocals are most prominent on Tapscott's recordings with Dwight Trible, who started collaborating with him in the early 90s I believe. If I'm remembering correctly, the vocal sections in the recordings from the 70s (Live at I.U.C.C., The Call, Flight 17, Ancestral Echoes, and Century City Playhouse) are mostly very brief relative to the length of the tunes (Some of these don't even contain tracks with singing, just spoken word). The big band sets from Tapscott where vocals are most prominent are "Moers 1995" (bootleg) and "Why Don't You Listen? LACMA 1998" (PAPA augmented with a choir). Most likely, the only vocals on this new CD will be present on "Lift Every Voice" and probably some spoken word sections here and there. 

Great info. Thanks! 

[Pim]

Not a huge vocals fan here either but must say that with Tapscott it mostly really adds something special to the music plus the singers could actually sing.

I experience the opposite with some of the records of another fave of mine: Hannibal. On his records the, imo sometimes awful singing, really annoys me though never enough to fully skip a record of him.

[T.D.]

4 minutes ago, Pim said:

Not a huge vocals fan here either but must say that with Tapscott it mostly really adds something special to the music plus the singers could actually sing.

+1. I'm not big on vocals, but they work with the Tapscott material. And Dwight Trible is really excellent, I enjoy the other Nimbus West (and Build an Ark) albums on which he appears, and am considering purchasing his recordings as leader.

[Pim]

8 minutes ago, T.D. said:

+1. I'm not big on vocals, but they work with the Tapscott material. And Dwight Trible is really excellent, I enjoy the other Nimbus West (and Build an Ark) albums on which he appears, and am considering purchasing his recordings as leader.

Yeah Trible is an excellent singer. And I actually LOVE Adele Sebastian’s singing on The Call!

[Dodo]

14 hours ago, T.D. said:

Agreed.

Looking at the booklet of the 2-CD P-APA Live at IUCC (1979), it appears that the only piece with choir is the short concluding "Lift Every Voice". By analogy, and recognizing some of the titles, I expect the same from the 1978 recording.

Don't have time to listen to "1979" tonight, may check tomorrow.

I wholeheartedly recommend the 1979 I.U.C.C. recording, it's probably my very favorite of Tapscott's big band recordings, which is saying a lot because I really love every single one of them. The track McKowsky's First Fifth (which was cut from the original LP, either because of space limitations or maybe because of a brief section where the band loses sync with each other) includes a spoken word section BTW, which is in tribute to Eric Dolphy, and it's wonderful.

I'm really curious about the recording quality on this upcoming CD; Nimbus West likened the quality of some of Albach's documentations of the I.U.C.C. performances to field recordings, but I'm not sure about this recording specifically. Wish Nimbus included samples on their store page.

[Pim]

Anyone with a shipping notice yet?

[T.D.]

33 minutes ago, Pim said:

Anyone with a shipping notice yet?

I was a pretty early order, no notice of any kind yet. The website says "SOLD OUT". Dusty Groove shows estimated availability 4/15 FWIW.

[sidewinder]

36 minutes ago, Pim said:

Anyone with a shipping notice yet?

No word received here yet.

[mjazzg]

No, nothing yet.

Website said shipping from 31/3 when I last looked so we're a bit late by that.  

The 3LP Tapscott was delayed quite a bit I think I'm correct in remembering 

[Pim]

Oh yes that one was more than half a year too late if I remember correctly. Hope this one is faster. Really looking forward to it.

[jlhoots]

I have it "preordered" at Dusty Groove. We'll see what happens.

[T.D.]

Shipped today from the label!

[felser]

1 hour ago, T.D. said:

Shipped today from the label!

Same here.

[Pim]

Any international customers with a shipping notice yet?

[mjazzg]

No but i contacted them and they had received the stock on Monday last week and were hoping to ship later this week, not quite fulfilled that hope it would seem

Edited April 15, 2023 by mjazzg

[sidewinder]

18 minutes ago, mjazzg said:

No but i contacted them and they had received the stock on Monday last week and were hoping to ship later this week, not quite fulfilled that hope it would seem

Thanks for the update - I was wondering how things were.