jcam_44 Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 (edited) Limited to 250 copies. Pre-order Here This 2 disc set documents a legendary concert at the Immanuel United Church of Christ - November 26th, 1978. This is the first time that Nimbus founder Tom Albach had attempted to capture the Arkestra in their own environment and boy is it a doozy! About as raw and deep as it gets. Jesse Sharps here at the peak of his powers as Bandleader and Arranger, not to mention the playing, jeez.. this is a side of the Ark that has not been properly heard- until now… disc 1 JUNGLE JUICE (30:50) BALLAD FOR SAMUEL (21:29) disc 2 LATELY’S SOLO (24:44) IF YOU COULD SEE ME NOW (8:38) TO THE GREAT HOUSE (21:49) LIFT EVERY VOICE (1:58) 2CD SET in gatefold slipcase with notes by Tom Albach and Mark Weber - this will be the first in a series of releases documenting the entirety of the I.U.C.C. recordings looks like some vinyl is on sale as well. Edited March 6, 2023 by jcam_44 Added tracklist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.D. Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 Thanks. I'm in. The 1979 Live at I.U.C.C. set released on Soul Jazz Records (UK) was really good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted March 7, 2023 Report Share Posted March 7, 2023 250 copies. Not exactly HUGE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.D. Posted March 7, 2023 Report Share Posted March 7, 2023 32 minutes ago, jlhoots said: 250 copies. Not exactly HUGE! I guess that means "Carpe Diem". Interesting, because I've bought a whole lot of Nimbus West CDs from Dusty Groove's site @$9.99 apiece. But with a pressing of 250, I pre-ordered now rather than rolling the dice on that possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pim Posted March 7, 2023 Report Share Posted March 7, 2023 International buyers have to send an email. Want to pre-order as well but Matt doesn’t respond to my emails. Also wondering if there’s going to be a vinyl version too. Their last 3lp set was amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.D. Posted March 7, 2023 Report Share Posted March 7, 2023 2 minutes ago, Pim said: International buyers have to send an email. Want to pre-order as well but Matt doesn’t respond to my emails. Also wondering if there’s going to be a vinyl version too. Their last 3lp set was amazing I trust Matt will respond. Not knowing where the company is located (turned out to be USA), I e-mailed him last night (US time) and he replied almost instantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted March 7, 2023 Report Share Posted March 7, 2023 Pre-ordered, no-brainer for me. Thanks so much for the heads-up. Great to see new activity from Nimbus West! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted March 7, 2023 Report Share Posted March 7, 2023 Emailed about the shipping to UK. Interested to see what they quote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spontooneous Posted March 7, 2023 Report Share Posted March 7, 2023 Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carville Posted March 7, 2023 Report Share Posted March 7, 2023 Ordered!! Thanks so much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
randyhersom Posted March 7, 2023 Report Share Posted March 7, 2023 I'm OK with that. Will be ripping right away. I have ordered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pim Posted March 8, 2023 Report Share Posted March 8, 2023 (edited) Just received a very friendly reply from Matt. He’s talking about a series of records to be released!!!!! So there’s probably more to come. He’s not sure about vinyl releases but definitely doesn’t rule that out. I’m buying these to be sure and might get the vinyl later then. Anyway, exciting stuff. Matt’s still calculating international shipping and will get back on that with me. Edited March 8, 2023 by Pim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Duckworth Posted March 8, 2023 Report Share Posted March 8, 2023 Thanks for the heads up! I am definitely on board for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted March 8, 2023 Report Share Posted March 8, 2023 With so few copies, is only Nimbus going to be selling this directly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted March 8, 2023 Report Share Posted March 8, 2023 26 minutes ago, jlhoots said: With so few copies, is only Nimbus going to be selling this directly? Would make sense for them to do so, not give away more of the margin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pim Posted March 8, 2023 Report Share Posted March 8, 2023 Yeah I think so. Sometimes copies pop up at Jazzmessengers or SoundOhm but wouldn’t count on it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted March 8, 2023 Report Share Posted March 8, 2023 Gripped yesterday -- if they set up a subscription, I'd gladly buy in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romualdo Posted March 9, 2023 Report Share Posted March 9, 2023 On 3/8/2023 at 8:05 AM, mjazzg said: Emailed about the shipping to UK. Interested to see what they quote ordered my copy a couple of days ago (Matt has reserved a copy for me) he just told me that there is going to be an international sales button (on the website page) when purchasing - should be up today then I'll properly purchase have you seen the warning on the Nimbus West site re the bootleg Outernational Sounds label - looks like they've been giving Tom Albach a hard time - sounds like a classic example of elder abuse Matt has also posted this message on the Outernational Sounds Discogs page https://www.discogs.com/label/1193697-Outernational-Sounds "DO NOT BUY ANY NIMBUS “REISSUES” WHICH ARE ISSUED BY outernational sounds These are unofficial BOOTLEGS, MP3 SOURCED THE SO CALLED “CONTRACTS” THAT HARV AND CO CLAIM TO HAVE , WERE OBTAINED FROM A 93 YEAR OLD TOM ALBACH BY MISLEADING AND NEFARIOUS MEANS…. THERE STILL EXISTS LAWS ABOUT EXPLOITING THE ELDERLY, AND THIS IS 100% A CASE OF GROSS MANIPULATION AND EXPLOITATION OF AN ELDERLY COUPLE.. OUR LAWYER HAS DEFINITIVELY CONFIRMED THAT THE “CONTRACTS” HAVE NO LEGAL STANDING WHATSOEVER , AND THE MEANS BY WHICH THEY WERE OBTAINED WERE FIRMLY ILLEGAL (SENDING COURIERS TO DEMAND SIGNATURES FROM A 93 YEAR OLD MAN WHO HAS NO IDEA WHAT HES SIGNING.. its pathetic -THERE ARE REASONS WHY CONTRACTS OF THIS TYPE REQUIRE NOTARIZATION AND A WITNESS, THESE SO CALLED “CONTRACTS” HAVE NEITHER).. WE HAVE ASKED MULTIPLE TIMES FOR HARV AND CO. TO “CEASE AND DESIST” TO NO AVAIL…THO THEY FINALLY STOPPED HARASSING THE ELDERLY ALBACHS VIA INCESSANT PHONE CALLS -THEY KEEP CHURNING OUT THESE ILLEGAL BOOTLEGS, AND HAVE FAILED TO EVEN LIVE UP TO THE TERMS OF THE “CONTRACTS” THEY CLAIM ARE LEGIT.. HMMM, PRETTY WEIRD… SO , IF THESE “CONTRACTS” ARE LEGIT AS THEY CLAIM, THEN WHERE IS THE COMPENSATION STIPULATED IN THE TERMS? NO ? OH AND HOW ABOUT THE MECHANICAL ROYALTIES OWED TO THE ARTISTS (as per the fake “contracts”)? NOPE, NOT PAYING THOSE EITHER?… FACT IS - HARV and his little scam label NEVER INTENDED TO PROPERLY COMPENSATE THE ARTISTS OR NIMBUS. HARV IS A CON MAN AND SINCE HE REFUSES TO CEASE REPRESSING HIS BOOTLEGS OF NIMBUS TITLES. WE WILL NOW BECOME VERY VOCAL ABOUT THIS BULLSHIT. DON’T BUY outernational sounds BOOTLEGS" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.D. Posted March 9, 2023 Report Share Posted March 9, 2023 Whoa, nasty stuff. Hoping the good guys prevail. Nimbus West might be in a transitional state these days...perhaps they're beefing up the website and operations. If you go to the Nimbus West bandcamp page https://nimbuswest.bandcamp.com/ it links to a nonexistent (domain expired?) site "nimbuswest.com" rather than nimbuswestrecords.com as given above in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted March 9, 2023 Report Share Posted March 9, 2023 Shocking - glad I managed to stay clear of anything from Outernational, mp3 sources as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pim Posted March 9, 2023 Report Share Posted March 9, 2023 I’ve got three of their reissues…. If I knew back then I would have never bought them! Boycot from now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted March 9, 2023 Report Share Posted March 9, 2023 That's interesting. I had quite a long chat with Harv about his Nimbus West reissues in Honest Jon's, where he was behind the counter, as I bought one a few years back. He told a different story of what I think I recall was a one-off payment deal to T.Albach for the permission to reissue. He was glowing in how he described his relationship with Mr. Albach. Obviously this statement puts a different perspective on things. I haven't received a response to my email about international shipping and it's still not available through the website Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted March 9, 2023 Report Share Posted March 9, 2023 Have no idea what the legal situation is or was between the parties, and we'd have to see the contracts ourselves to know what the label is talking about. A lump sum to reissue certain titles and manufacture a set number of copies is pretty normal, but I suppose if they kept pressing them it would be a problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted March 9, 2023 Report Share Posted March 9, 2023 With you there Clifford Thinking about it more I now remember that it was a lump sum and a number in the hundreds of copies of the new LP for Mr Albach to do with as he wished. It was the Jesse Sharpe's reissue. Interestingly, Nimbus W subsequently did their own reissue of the title which I also bought. Looking at Discogs now and all the Outernational Sounds Nimbus W reissues have been updated to 'Unofficial' by someone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pim Posted March 9, 2023 Report Share Posted March 9, 2023 International shipping now avaible. Total sum of 39 euros to NL. Ouch that hurts. I don’t think I’ve ever paid this amount for a cd. But I don’t want to miss it so I just bought a copy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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