Hardbopjazz Posted March 28, 2004 Report Posted March 28, 2004 I have to select and vote for Armstrong. I believe every artists owes his or her playing to Pops. He was, if not the first soloist. Quote
Hardbopjazz Posted March 28, 2004 Author Report Posted March 28, 2004 These are the jazz musicians that are currently in the jazz hall of fame. These more that should already be in there. taken from http://www.jazzhall.org/ 1978 Louis Armstrong Duke Ellington Benny Goodman Glenn Miller Ella Fitzgerald 1979 Charlie Parker Bix Beiderbecke Fletcher Henderson Miles Davis Billie Holiday 1980 John Coltrane James P. Johnson Thelonious Monk Earl Hines Lester Young Frank Sinatra 1981 Count Basie Tommy Dorsey Charlie Christian Woody Herman Buddy Rich Billy Strayhorn W. C. Handy Bessie Smith 1982 Jelly Roll Morton Stan Kenton Art Blakey Charles Mingus Coleman Hawkins Dizzy Gillespie Bill Evans Sarah Vaughan 1983 Sidney Bechet Ben Webster Wes Montgomery Harry James Stan Getz Gene Krupa Eddie Condon Jimmy Dorsey Eubie Blake Ma Rainey 1984 King Oliver Charlie Barnet Claude Thornhill Eric Dolphy Chu Berry Gerry Mulligan Django Reinhardt Fats Navarro Chick Webb Carmen McRae 1985 Art Tatum Roy Eldridge Mary Lou Williams C. Adderley Bunny Berigan Jay McShann Clifford Brown Jack Teagarden Illinois Jacquet Billy Eckstine 1986 Red Nichols Bunk Johnson Lil Armstrong Dave Brubeck Kenny Clarke Kid Ory Gil Evans Eddie Lang Lionel Hampton Johnny Hartman 1987 Pee Wee Russell Willie Smith Bennie Moten Cab Calloway Ray Noble Sun Ra Chet Baker Jimmie Lunceford Scott Joplin Jimmie Noone Dinah Washington 1988 Quincy Jones J. J. Johnson Dexter Gordon Johnny Dodds Buddy Tate Billy May Buddy Bolden Benny Carter Jimmy Rushing 1989 Ornette Coleman Fats Waller Frankie Carle Milt Jackson Shorty Rogers Sonny Stitt Isham Jones Lawrence Welk Mildred Bailey 1990 Artie Shaw Buck Clayton Kenny Burrell Johnny Hodges Don Redman Jo Jones Les Paul Mel Torme 1991 Horace Silver Clarence Williams Paul Desmond Andy Kirk Baby Dodds Bud Powell Max Roach Red Norvo Lena Horne 1992 Ben Pollack Jimmy McPartland Hal Kemp Bud Freeman Zoot Sims Oscar Pettiford Pops Foster Sammy Kaye Guy Lombardo Peggy Lee 1993 James Moody Budd Johnson Louie Bellson Meade Lux Lewis Paul Whiteman John Kirby Cootie Williams Erroll Garner Louis Prima Teddy Wilson Nat King Cole 1994 Clark Terry Freddie Hubbard Sweets Edison Paul Chambers Stuff Smith Raymond Scott Jimmy Blanton Wynton Kelly Rex Stewart Betty Carter 1995 Don Cherry Oscar Peterson Herbie Hancock Red Allen Thad Jones Joe Pass Tito Puete Stephane Grappelli Joe Williams 1996 Wynton Marsalis Tal Farlow Doc Cheatham Sid Catlett Tex Beneke Lucky Millinder Al Cohn Jess Stacy Milt Hinton Alberta Hunter 1997 Wild Bill Davison Bobby Hackett Pete Fountain Ray Brown Tony Williams Freddie Keppard Mel Powell Muggsy Spanier Charlie Shavers Tony Bennett 1998 Eddie Miller Dorothy Donegan Wayne Shorter Yank Lawson Claude Hopkins Adrian Rollini Art Hodes Will Bradley Louis Jordan Maxine Sullivan 1999 Sonny Rollins Barney Kessel Billy Taylor Jonah Jones Tommy Flanagan Barry Harris Marian McPartland Nancy Wilson Les Brown Stanley Dance 2000 Joe Venuti Harry Carney Dave Tough Sy Oliver Hank Jones Freddie Green Chubby Jackson McCoy Tyner Ron Carter Shirley Horn 2001 Art Farmer Lawrence Brown Lennie Tristano Tadd Dameron Jimmy Rowles John Lewis Terry Gibbs Toshiko Akiyoshi Gerald Wilson Helen Forrest 2002 John Lewis Buddy DeFranco Lennie Tristano Lawrence Brown Ralph Sutton Shelly Manne Art Pepper Bing Crosby Nina Simone T-Bone Walker Glen Gray's Casa Loma Orchestra George T. Simon 2003 Bob Brookmeyer Jim Hall Toshiko Akiyoshi Jimmy Rowles Ray Nance Scott LaFaro Howard McGhee JC Higginbotham Bob Eberly Jo Stafford Eddie Sauder B. B. King Ted Weems Norman Granz 2004 these were entered. Mundell Lowe Specs Powell Paul Tanner Gerald Wilson Terry Gibbs Tadd Dameron Paul Gonsalves Trummy Young Perry Como Martha Tilton Sammy Nestico Ray Charles William McKinney Helen Dance Irving Berlin Quote
Popper Lou Posted March 28, 2004 Report Posted March 28, 2004 I don't know how to choose anyone. They all deserve to be in the jazz hall of fame. Quote
A Lark Ascending Posted March 28, 2004 Report Posted March 28, 2004 Do we have to have a jazz hall of fame? Quote
Jazzmoose Posted March 28, 2004 Report Posted March 28, 2004 Do we have to have a jazz hall of fame? Well of course, we have to market this stuff! Quote
John L Posted March 28, 2004 Report Posted March 28, 2004 Do we have to have a jazz hall of fame? Do mean to suggest that great jazz artists are not worthy of the same enshrinement bestowed on sports heroes? Quote
gdogus Posted March 28, 2004 Report Posted March 28, 2004 I don't understand the question. Every one of the musicians listed in the poll is already in the Jazz Hall of Fame, as Harbop's second post makes clear. So... Quote
Hardbopjazz Posted March 28, 2004 Author Report Posted March 28, 2004 I don't understand the question. Every one of the musicians listed in the poll is already in the Jazz Hall of Fame, as Harbop's second post makes clear. So... How do these artists get choosen? There are so many others that don't show up on this list. Jackie McLean Andrew Hill Just to name two. Quote
A Lark Ascending Posted March 28, 2004 Report Posted March 28, 2004 Do we have to have a jazz hall of fame? Do mean to suggest that great jazz artists are not worthy of the same enshrinement bestowed on sports heroes? OK. Do sports personalities need a hall of fame? One other question. Do you have to be dead and American to be in a hall of fame? Sorry. I'm a history teacher who doesn't like museums! Quote
GA Russell Posted March 28, 2004 Report Posted March 28, 2004 I enjoy Perry Como, but I don't know why he's been nominated. Quote
BruceH Posted March 28, 2004 Report Posted March 28, 2004 All the voting choices should be in anyones Jazz Hall of Fame. Quote
LAL Posted March 29, 2004 Report Posted March 29, 2004 Frankie Trumbauer's name is missing from the list!! Quote
king ubu Posted March 29, 2004 Report Posted March 29, 2004 Do we have to have a jazz hall of fame? Well of course, we have to market this stuff! Quote
mikeweil Posted March 29, 2004 Report Posted March 29, 2004 I don't understand the question. Every one of the musicians listed in the poll is already in the Jazz Hall of Fame, as Harbop's second post makes clear. So... Same here! Besides that, I see some names of doubtful jazz value on the list: Guy Lombardo, Sammy Kaye etc. may have been great artists in their own right, but jazz??? Quote
Tom Storer Posted March 29, 2004 Report Posted March 29, 2004 Who votes on who gets into the Jazz Hall of Fame? I confess I was a little surprised to see Guy Lombardo, Lawrence Welk and Perry Como. And Martha Tilton? I'd never heard of her, but a little web research shows that she was a 40's big band singer with a fine reputation but whose career never really took off. I mean, more power to her, I'm sure she was great, but Hall of Fame? Quote
neveronfriday Posted March 29, 2004 Report Posted March 29, 2004 Hell, I voted for Basie ... just so he gets a vote. Cheers! Quote
John L Posted March 29, 2004 Report Posted March 29, 2004 (edited) Do sports personalities need a hall of fame? Of course they do! One other question. Do you have to be dead and American to be in a hall of fame? No, but it doesn't hurt. Edited March 29, 2004 by John L Quote
A Lark Ascending Posted March 29, 2004 Report Posted March 29, 2004 Do sports personalities need a hall of fame? Of course they do! One other question. Do you have to be dead and American to be in a hall of fame? No, but it doesn't hurt. Thank's John. I'm glad to know being American doesn't hurt. And even gladder to know that being dead isn't going to hurt! Quote
connoisseur series500 Posted March 30, 2004 Report Posted March 30, 2004 I didn't vote because they all belong in the Jazz Hall of Fame. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted March 30, 2004 Report Posted March 30, 2004 Of course they do. I'd add Jackie Mc, Steve Lacy, Ayler, Cecil and Herbie Nichols. Is Mal Waldron on there? He should be -- one of the most consistently underrated and important pianists (not to mention musicians) since Bud Powell. Quote
Adam Posted March 31, 2004 Report Posted March 31, 2004 Ditto to Waldron & Lacy - about time for them to get into the real Hall of Fame. Quote
Guest ariceffron Posted April 1, 2004 Report Posted April 1, 2004 THE JAZZ HALL OF FAME IS A BAD AND STUPID IDEA. RE: YOUR LIST, ALL OF THE ABOVE QUALIFY. WITH JAZZ MUSIC, TOO MANY PEOPLE HAVE HAD MAJOR IMPACTS ON THE GENRE. A TRUE HALL OF FAME WOULD READ LIKE LON ARMSTRONGS LP COLLECTION- AND WHAT WOULD THE POINT BE, IF EVERYONE IS IN IT. ON THE OTHER HAND, IF ONLY A FEW PEOPLE ARE IN IT, IT IS BAD AS WELL AS OTHERS ARE LEFT OUT. SO EITHER WAY ITS A REALLY BAD IDEA. ITS NOT LIKE ROCK WHERE THERES A SELECT NUMBER OF BANDS THAT STAND OUT ABOVE THE REST THAT CAN BE INCLUDED IN A HALL. YOU GUYS BETTER DROP THIS ISSUE SO NO ONE GETS CRAZY IDEAS. Quote
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