Andre Hodeir

[Teasing the Korean]

I really love Andre Hodeir's music.  I have the following four CDs, in chronological order:

• 1. The Vogue Sessions - two 10" albums from the early 1950s
• 2. Le Jazz Groupe de Paris Plays Andre Hodeir - 1956
• 3. Kenny Clarke Plays Andre Hodeir - 1956
• 4. Jazz et Jazz - 1960

How much more is there, and are the above albums the cream of the crop?

[Larry Kart]

1 hour ago, Teasing the Korean said:

I really love Andre Hodeir's music.  I have the following four CDs, in chronological order:

• 1. The Vogue Sessions - two 10" albums from the early 1950s
• 2. Le Jazz Groupe de Paris Plays Andre Hodeir - 1956
• 3. Kenny Clarke Plays Andre Hodeir - 1956
• 4. Jazz et Jazz - 1960

How much more is there, and are the above albums the cream of the crop?

Anna Livia Plurabelle

[Teasing the Korean]

7 minutes ago, Larry Kart said:

Anna Livia Plurabelle

Wow, not familiar with this one!  There is an inexpensive lossless download from Qobuz.  I may go this route.  

Many thanks!

[jazzbo]

You'll like this Savoy record.

https://www.discogs.com/master/995033-Andre-Hodeir-American-Jazzmen-Play-Andre-Hodeirs-Essais

[Teasing the Korean]

29 minutes ago, jazzbo said:

You'll like this Savoy record.

https://www.discogs.com/master/995033-Andre-Hodeir-American-Jazzmen-Play-Andre-Hodeirs-Essais

Thank you!  Most of those titles are on either the Vogue disc, or the Kenny Clarke/Jazz Group.  Any clue as to whether or not these are the same recordings, or if they are by a different group playing Hodeir's arrangements?  

The only title that I'm not seeing on the discs I have is "Alphabet."

[jazzbo]

It has been a long time since I listened to my copy. . . but. . . By the personnel I think these are not performances you have:

 

• Alto Saxophone, Bass Clarinet – Hal McKusick
• Baritone Saxophone, Clarinet, Bass Clarinet – Jay Cameron
• Bass – George Duvivier
• Composed By, Liner Notes – André Hodeir
• Drums – Bobby Donaldson
• Engineer – Rudy Van Gelder
• Liner Notes – Ozzie Cadena
• Tenor Saxophone, Flute – Bobby Jaspar
• Trombone – Frank Rehak
• Trumpet – Donald Byrd, Idrees Sulieman
• Vibraphone – Eddie Costa
• Voice [Voice Obligatto] – Annie Ross (tracks: B1)

The liner notes also indicate this was an American project to duplicate the compositions with American players.

[JSngry]

What about "the Birdlanders" stuff that Esoteric/Period did? Kind sluggish in both sound and performance, imo, but it happened. 

[Teasing the Korean]

16 minutes ago, jazzbo said:

It has been a long time since I listened to my copy. . . but. . . By the personnel I think these are not performances you have:

Oh, yeah, clearly different.  Thanks!

Looks like I can get that one inexpensively on Qobuz also.

Edited September 20, 2022 by Teasing the Korean

[jazzbo]

Fresh Sounds did collectors a big favor by releasing this along with what is probably the others you have in a 2 cd set.

https://www.discogs.com/release/13417499-Andr%C3%A9-Hodeir-Essais-Complete-Paris-New-York-Sessions

There's also this 7" EP of a soundtrack from Hodeir to consider:

https://www.discogs.com/release/6483400-Andr%C3%A9-Hodeir-Les-Tripes-Au-Soleil-Bande-Originale-Du-Film

[Teasing the Korean]

6 minutes ago, jazzbo said:

Fresh Sounds did collectors a big favor by releasing this along with what is probably the others you have in a 2 cd set.

https://www.discogs.com/release/13417499-Andr%C3%A9-Hodeir-Essais-Complete-Paris-New-York-Sessions

Yes, that is the version that is on Qobuz.  Thanks!

[Justin V]

I like this one with Solal, which I picked up after liking what I heard of Hodeir on that wonderful Vogue box.

Edited September 20, 2022 by Justin V

[Big Beat Steve]

15 hours ago, JSngry said:

What about "the Birdlanders" stuff that Esoteric/Period did? Kind sluggish in both sound and performance, imo, but it happened. 

I think you mixed up the instigators of the sessions. As I recall (would have to check among my LPs) the "Birdlanders" sessions were organized and supervised by Henri Renaud, not André Hodeir.
Renaud at any rate was less academic than Hodeir.

As for their "sluggishnes", different strokes (again ...) - but I for one prefer the U.S. sessions supervised by André Persiany anyway to those supervised by Henri Renaud. Differing tastes again.

 

 

Edited September 21, 2022 by Big Beat Steve

[JSngry]

Oh, that was the guy. Sorry, my bad.

[Teasing the Korean]

14 hours ago, Justin V said:

I like this one with Solal, which I picked up after liking what I heard of Hodeir on that wonderful Vogue box.

This seems interesting, thanks!