Rabshakeh Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 (edited) What are the craziest, most bad taste, 1980s or early 1990s fusion records that you can think of? Doing some "research" for a "friend". I'm talking music so shredding that it could be on the soundtrack to F Zero (or for the 'mature' ballads, intro music for the Weather Channel). The kind of music that reeks of pony tails, lucozade, garish waistcoats and cheap wrap-around sunglasses. Edited August 16, 2022 by Rabshakeh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 No idea if this qualifies, but I LOVE this one. If you want to piss off as many "jazz purists" as possible, lead with this one, see how many are left by the time it's over, and then award points accordingly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted August 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 34 minutes ago, JSngry said: No idea if this qualifies, but I LOVE this one. If you want to piss off as many "jazz purists" as possible, lead with this one, see how many are left by the time it's over, and then award points accordingly. This one is positively tasteful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 Deliciously so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub Modal Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rabshakeh said: What are the craziest, most bad taste, 1980s or early 1990s fusion records that you can think of? Doing some "research" for a "friend". I'm talking music so shredding that it could be on the soundtrack to F Zero (or for the 'mature' ballads, intro music for the Weather Channel). The kind of music that reeks of pony tails, lucozade, garish waistcoats and cheap wrap-around sunglasses. I love the fact that outside of pony tails and wrap around sunglasses I have absolutely no idea what you’re referencing here. I’m looking forward to the entries Edited August 16, 2022 by Dub Modal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 F Zero was a video game, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhatta Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 Well, I guess it's not "fusion", but more like pseudo-funk. It's from 1988, so please forgive its political un-correctness... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 Sacrilege in some circles, but I've always found Holdsworth to be very shreddy...but not in a bad way, that's just how he plays. For the time, al De Miola was the one who gave me the creeps with RTF and beyond. Pretty early in I stopped caring/listening, so maybe it sounds tame now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted August 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 F Zero was a computer game with an absurd fusion / speed metal soundtrack. This is a record that was recorded by Nintendo's house band (which was apparently a thing). Copies of the CD go for north of £400. 52 minutes ago, JSngry said: Sacrilege in some circles, but I've always found Holdsworth to be very shreddy...but not in a bad way, that's just how he plays. For the time, al De Miola was the one who gave me the creeps with RTF and beyond. Pretty early in I stopped caring/listening, so maybe it sounds tame now. Holdsworth's Secrets and Di Meola's Electric Rendez Vous are precisely the kind of stuff I'm thinking of as a sort of basic starting point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 16, 2022 Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 I recall my son playing F-Zero on the SNES. Did they use the same tracks when they ported it over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted August 16, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2022 1 hour ago, mhatta said: Well, I guess it's not "fusion", but more like pseudo-funk. It's from 1988, so please forgive its political un-correctness... What a time it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted August 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) Enjoying this one. Lots of cool synth concepts, even if the drumming isn't anything like in his 1970s classics. A third of the tunes are really great. The other two thirds are just plodding. Edited August 17, 2022 by Rabshakeh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rabshakeh Posted August 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 This is great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted August 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 Jan Hammer was really the king of this stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted August 17, 2022 Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 35 minutes ago, Rabshakeh said: This is great. I mean, I can't stand it but I also have watched it a number of times over the years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted August 17, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, clifford_thornton said: I mean, I can't stand it but I also have watched it a number of times over the years. Well, then you'll love this one: Cosmosquad by Cosmosquad (Marmaduke, 1997) First impression: the guitarist only stops soloing when it's time for a show-off flamenco interlude (sensitive). Otherwise it is all guitar solos, all the time. Everyone involved looks like they are in a death metal band from Florida circa 1991. It could do with being faster: they have a lot to learn from Mr. Hammer. Edited August 17, 2022 by Rabshakeh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted August 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 (edited) Scott Henderson, Gary Willis, Tribal Tech – Illicit (1992) I asked Reddit to recommend some great fusion records and this is what I got. I can't believe that anyone who doesn't teach bass guitar could get into this record. It is very... arid music. I like the fake PMRC sticker. Best thing about the record. Edited August 18, 2022 by Rabshakeh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 18, 2022 Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 Gary Willis was in Wayne's band, the electric one. He was one of the most organic fusion players I've ever come across (we were from the same area, knew each other through NT, and jammed back home ove summer vacations). This guy literally did not, could not, WOULD not be bothered with any bebop derived music. This made the jams....uneven, but - when it came to things coming out of that other bag, hey, hey was all into it. Tribal tech...it seemed to be a whole band of hims. (Scott Henderson was in Zawinul's first post-WR bands, iirc?), and for me....no thanks. But they're honest musicians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted August 18, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2022 I mean, the bass playing's great. Not so much the rhythm section as an entity though - it is very lockstep. But it's really a record for Scott Henderson, who is just not to my taste. I'm currently having a restorative bath of Phil Upchurch to revivify the senses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rabshakeh Posted August 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 12 hours ago, JSngry said: Gary Willis was in Wayne's band, the electric one. You mentioned them in another thread. I see he's on Phantom Navigator. Is there any records from that group itself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 19, 2022 Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 I don't know that Wayne was all in on the touring/band thing yet. But they did tour some. There are some YouTube videos, but the full story of that period is likely to be told by whatever private recordings there are to be brought forward. It was a hot band, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted August 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 The Square - S.P.O.R.T.S. (CBS, 1986) I mean, this one is probably too likeable to qualify for this thread. Some tunes are as little as 20% guitar solo. From the point of view of 1980s fusion, I am not sure whether anything with less than 45% guitar solo per track even counts as music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rabshakeh Posted August 19, 2022 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2022 34 minutes ago, Rabshakeh said: The Square - S.P.O.R.T.S. (CBS, 1986) I mean, this one is probably too likeable to qualify for this thread. Some tunes are as little as 20% guitar solo. From the point of view of 1980s fusion, I am not sure whether anything with less than 45% guitar solo per track even counts as music. Just got caught listening to this by another adult. Mortified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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