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"I don’t get a lot of my information from music anymore. It comes from dance. It comes from theater. It comes from film. It comes from literature. It comes from painting. It comes from photography. I only listen to music for enjoyment. I’ve been looking at Albert Oehlen’s paintings, studying them for days, looking at their rhythmic possibilities. When I’m looking at a photograph, I’m looking at the light, at the background and middle ground and foreground. I can’t even think about that in terms of most music, you know."

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