The Prestige All Stars

[Dan Gould]

I usually follow the "does it sound right" rule and there's only one way to say or write "I learned an important lesson today" or anything similar. 

[JSngry]

https://socratic.org/questions/what-is-the-difference-in-i-learned-that-song-and-i-ve-learned-that-song-i-m-rea

[Kevin Bresnahan]

  On 10/28/2021 at 1:43 PM, sonnymax said:

"learned"? 

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Yes, obi wan. Thanks to sonnymax, I learned. And I bought.

[mikeweil]

  On 10/28/2021 at 11:37 AM, bresna said:

I've learned that The Prestige Blues-Swingers "Stasch" session is on a Coleman Hawkins compilation called "Bean and the Boys". Who came up with this compilation? It has a bunch of Hawkins 78s from the 40s combined with the 1959 "Stasch" session, which is much different from that earlier material. I bet I picked this compilation up several times and put it back down, figuring I had the older material already and not realizing that the 1959 session was probably a good reason to pick it up.

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Same here. They should have made two separate discs with the older and newer material.

[mikeweil]

The gusys at Fantasy sometimes made strange decisions when combining albums for "twofers".

Edited October 29, 2021 by mikeweil

[Teasing the Korean]

  On 10/28/2021 at 9:37 PM, mikeweil said:

The gusys at Fantasy sometimes made strange decisions when combiling albums for "twofers".

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Not as bad as Collectibles, who paired one of the Harriott/Mayer Indo Jazz albums with a dixieland album!!!

[mikeweil]

  On 10/28/2021 at 10:42 PM, Teasing the Korean said:

Not as bad as Collectibles, who paired one of the Harriott/Mayer Indo Jazz albums with a dixieland album!!!

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Okay. they top 'em all!

I remember a Clarke/Boland LP c/w a Mitchell Ruff Duo LP.

[sidewinder]

  On 10/28/2021 at 10:42 PM, Teasing the Korean said:

Not as bad as Collectibles, who paired one of the Harriott/Mayer Indo Jazz albums with a dixieland album!!!

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I guess Joe Harriott did record with Chris Barber but that is stretching things a bit !

[JSngry]

This one?

doubly deceptive, it is NOT "Les Jazz Modes"! Nor, best as I can find, was that ever a cover for that record!

[Larry Kart]

  On 10/29/2021 at 7:12 PM, JSngry said:

This one?

doubly deceptive, it is NOT "Les Jazz Modes"! Nor, best as I can find, was that ever a cover for that record!

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Jazz Ltd. was a trad music club on Ohio St. in Chicago, east of Michigan Ave.. Resident band was led by clarinetist Bill Reinhardt.

[Teasing the Korean]

  On 10/29/2021 at 7:12 PM, JSngry said:

This one?

doubly deceptive, it is NOT "Les Jazz Modes"! Nor, best as I can find, was that ever a cover for that record!

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That's the one.  Either way, it's pretty jarring to go from 40 minutes of eastern-tinged grooves to dixieland.  

I burned my own CD with both of the Indo Jazz albums on one disc.

Collectibles also reissued four Les Baxter Reprise albums in the form of two twofers.  

There were two exotica albums and two schmaltzy albums.

What did Collectibles do?  They paired each of the two exotica albums with one of the schmaltzy albums. 

[JSngry]

  On 10/29/2021 at 8:11 PM, Teasing the Korean said:

Collectibles also reissued four Les Baxter Reprise albums in the form of two twofers.  

There were two exotica albums and two schmaltzy albums.

What did Collectibles do?  They paired each of the two exotica albums with one of the schmaltzy albums. 

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So you had to buy two CDs instead of 1.

It's the OJC strategy - if you want two records, you are going to have to buy two records, we ain't making it easy for you!

[Teasing the Korean]

  On 10/29/2021 at 8:48 PM, JSngry said:

So you had to buy two CDs instead of 1.

It's the OJC strategy - if you want two records, you are going to have to buy two records, we ain't making it easy for you!

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Precisely!

[The Magnificent Goldberg]

I just completely LOST Joe Castro's 'Groove Funk Soul' album because I thought his name was Costa and couldn't for the life of me remember who the uninteresting (to me) UK musicians were on the album Collectables coupled the Castro with.

OK, I DID remember his name eventually. But a curse be upon Collectables' name.

MG

[Teasing the Korean]

BTW, is there distortion on the CD of All Night Long?  I don't remember the LP sounding that way.  

[Teasing the Korean]

Listening now to Outskirts of Town.  I've had this for years, in the massive "to-be-cleaned" section. 

Edited November 14, 2021 by Teasing the Korean

[mikeweil]

Finally found a used copy of this at a reasonable price, looking forward to it. This would have fitted into the Swingville series just as well. One after another I fll the gaps in my collection.

[Teasing the Korean]

  On 11/15/2021 at 11:46 PM, mikeweil said:

Finally found a used copy of this at a reasonable price, looking forward to it. This would have fitted into the Swingville series just as well. One after another I fll the gaps in my collection.

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Really enjoyed this one yesterday! 

[mikeweil]

  On 11/15/2021 at 11:46 PM, mikeweil said:

Finally found a used copy of this at a reasonable price, looking forward to it. This would have fitted into the Swingville series just as well. One after another I fll the gaps in my collection.

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This disc arrived here only today! For unknown reasons it was returned to the seller, so I ordered some more, and he included it in that package. Really a nice  album, but Rudy Van Gelder was a bit too generous with his reverb, for my taste.

[Brad]

  On 10/29/2021 at 8:48 PM, JSngry said:

So you had to buy two CDs instead of 1.

It's the OJC strategy - if you want two records, you are going to have to buy two records, we ain't making it easy for you!

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Too bad there’s no OJC anymore. 

Just ordered the AP SACD of All Night Long. 

[jazzcorner]

  On 10/26/2021 at 10:47 PM, sonnymax said:

Howdy folks. I hope you're all doing well. I have a question that arose while I was cataloging some digital music. Specifically, I added the 1957 recording for Prestige entitled Olio. Different sources credit this date to Thad Jones, while other releases assign no leadership, listing all the participants (Thad Jones, Frank Wess, Teddy Charles, Mal Waldron, Doug Watkins, Elvin Jones) as displayed on the cover. Checking out jazzdisco.org, this title along with 20 others is credited to The Prestige All Stars. Some of these albums bear the TPAS name on the cover or label, like Wheelin' & Dealin', All Day/Night Long, Earthy, etc., but others like Olio do not.

I'm curious as to how you might organize these titles in your collection. Would they be better placed under one artist's name, under various artists, or put them all together under TPAS as the Jazz Discography Project team does. I understand there's probably no definitive answer to this question, but I'm interested in others' opinions, especially the obsessive-compulsives among us.  Thanks in advance.

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Discogs has  this Item filed under the names on the front cover ---> starting with Thad Jones.

[r11366802]  LP title "Olio"

 

Edited February 19, 2022 by jazzcorner

[bertrand]

  On 2/17/2022 at 10:16 PM, mikeweil said:

This disc arrived here only today! For unknown reasons it was returned to the seller, so I ordered some more, and he included it in that package. Really a nice  album, but Rudy Van Gelder was a bit too generous with his reverb, for my taste.

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An alternate take of I Wanna Blow, Blow, Blow can be found on the Jimmy Forrest Soul Street record, which is itself a compilation.

I got confirmation that it was a different take from Pepper Adams scholars Gary Carner and Frank Basile.

[mikeweil]

  On 2/20/2022 at 4:25 AM, bertrand said:

An alternate take of I Wanna Blow, Blow, Blow can be found on the Jimmy Forrest Soul Street record, which is itself a compilation.

I got confirmation that it was a different take from Pepper Adams scholars Gary Carner and Frank Basile.

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Thanks! I suspected something like that. I wanted to compare the takes last week but it seems I did not keep that track when 

I sold the Jimmy Forrest CD. One of the cases when the OJC team did not do their homework.