Gary Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 Some one has a promo for sale on Ebay Uk here's the desciption & link - The tracks recorded at the Cellar Door club in Washington D.C. by the Miles Davis band between 16 & 19 December 1970 have never been released in full. Excerpts of the 19 December concert featuring John McLaughlin as guest player were released on Live/Evil but what we have for auction here is a set of reference CDs of the much-anticipated 6-CD boxed set Live At Cellar Door (Columbia/Legacy) which was supposed to have been released in 2002 yet still hasn’t seen the light of day. These are official Columbia/Legacy reference CDs as prepared for Seth Rothstein, senior director of Columbia/Legacy Jazz. They come in blank jewel cases with no artwork apart from a label on each CD which states “Miles Davis at the Cellar Door Disc 1 of 6. This is a work CD-R. Master tapes were not available when this CD-R was made. It was recorded from available disc sources. Reference copy. columbia/legacy © 2002.” The CDs themselves are in mint condition. Disc 1 Directions Dec 16 Yesternow Dec 16 What I Say Dec 16 Sanctuary Dec 16 Funky Tonk Dec 16 Sanctuary Dec 16 Disc 2 What I Say Dec 17 Honky Tonk Dec 17 Sanctuary Dec 17 It's About That Time Dec 17 Funky Tonk Dec 17 Sanctuary Dec 17 Disc 3 Directions Dec 18 Honky Tonk Dec 18 What I Say Dec 18 Sanctuary Dec 18 Disc 4 Directions Dec 18 Honky Tonk Dec 18 What I Say Dec 18 Sanctuary Dec 18 Funky Tonk Dec 18 Sanctuary Dec 18 Disc 5 Directions Dec 19 Honky Tonk Dec 19 What I Say Dec 19 Sanctuary Dec 19 Disc 6 Directions Dec 19 Funky Tonk Dec 19 Sanctuary Dec 19 It's About That Time Dec 19 Sanctuary Dec 19 Musicians: Gary Bartz (ss, as) Keith Jarrett (el-p, org) John McLaughlin (19 Dec only) (g) Michael Henderson (el-B) Jack DeJohnette (d) Airto Moreira (perc, voc) Conrad Roberts (narr) http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie...6&category=1056 YESSSS - I cant wait I love the live tracks on LIVE EVIL Quote
jazzbo Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 Actually, advance promo copies seem to have been out for months. . . so I'm not sure this is an indicator of any imminent release, though I'm wanting to believe it is! Great stuff! GONNA BE A GREAT SET! Quote
Gary Posted March 23, 2004 Author Report Posted March 23, 2004 Perhaps I was getting a bit carried away - but I remember promo Jack Johnson discs starting appearing on Ebay a few months before the release. Quote
king ubu Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 WOWEE! Anybody feel free to send me money now, so I can pick it up as soon as it's out ubu Quote
jazzbo Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 Hey, it's understandable to be feeling carried away, I was when I first saw evidence that these were out (and circulating) a few months ago! Quote
Claude Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 Great stuff, but 6CDs (6 hours?) is too much. I hope these will come out as seperate 2CD sets, as it was announced. Just like the Blackhawk sessions. Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 Paul Tingen mentions in his book "Miles Beyond : Electric Explorations of Miles Davis, 1967-1991", that he was able to hear "Reference Copies" of this release (with Columbia's permission), and "Miles Beyond" (the book) was published in May of 2001, so Tingen had to have heard them in early 2001 (at the every latest), maybe even sometime in 2000. I agree that we'll probably see all this material released within the next 6 to 24 months, but I don't think we're necessarily quite as close as "seeing promos on eBay" normally would indicate. Funny packaging, though I guess it looks legit... Quote
Claude Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 (edited) The music has also been circulating in filesharing channels for a few months. Someone could easily burn CD-Rs from those files and add some official-looking stickers. What does "reference copy" mean, and what about the text on that sticker? The Jack Johnson promo sets looked different, they came as manufactured CDs not CD-Rs. Edited March 23, 2004 by Claude Quote
Rooster_Ties Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 (edited) “Miles Davis at the Cellar Door Disc 1 of 6. This is a work CD-R. Master tapes were not available when this CD-R was made. It was recorded from available disc sources. Yeah, the language here smells kinda funny to me... "Master tapes were not available when this CD-R was made." Yeah, right. Why would Columbia, who owns the tapes, be working with anything other than the master tapes. Especially if these sound like 3rd or 5th generation copys (where the copies were done from magnetic tape to magnetic tape). "It was recorded from available disc sources." "Available" sources??? Come on... Edited March 23, 2004 by Rooster_Ties Quote
jazzbo Posted March 23, 2004 Report Posted March 23, 2004 There are advanced promo copies of Ellington cds to come (Blues in Orbit, Piano in Background, Piano in Foreground) out there from Columbia as factory cdrs; I've had cdrs of other Columbia releases show up in advance from Columbia in cdr format as well. . . . So the cdr format is not prohibitive that they came from Columbia. Those all came in either jewel cases with a factory printed back card insert with details, or cardboard sleeves with a sticker with details. . . . None of these were "Reference Copies" however. I would think a reference copy would be an internally circulated copy and may have sketchy documentation. . . . I've heard the music. It sounds fantastic! Quote
Claude Posted March 29, 2004 Report Posted March 29, 2004 The auction has been canceled (by Ebay it seems) Quote
jazzbo Posted March 29, 2004 Report Posted March 29, 2004 (edited) If anyone is talking to Bob Belden or Michael Cuscuna these days. . .ask him when this set/these sets are coming out! First thing I'll buy is anything with disc four in it! Edited March 29, 2004 by jazzbo Quote
GregK Posted March 30, 2004 Report Posted March 30, 2004 yeah, sign me up for this on the day its released. I would prefer another fancy box set like the others in the studio recordings series, but anything will do, as long as it comes out. I'd also jump at the chance to hear some live recordings from the 60s quintet Quote
chris olivarez Posted March 31, 2004 Report Posted March 31, 2004 Looking forward to it whenever it may occur. Quote
Eric Posted April 26, 2004 Report Posted April 26, 2004 In the mean time, if you have one of those SACD/CD combo players, the SACD of the orignial album sounds increbible ... BIG improvement (and I really don't much get into the whole audiophile thing). Eric Quote
John L Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 Does anybody know what Sony's most recent plans are for the Cellar Door set? Quote
jazzbo Posted June 5, 2004 Report Posted June 5, 2004 Maybe we got bum information earlier on? Let's fire someone! Quote
Bill B Posted June 9, 2004 Report Posted June 9, 2004 Maybe we got bum information earlier on? Let's fire someone! Looks like the Cellar Door set will be delayed,but Seven Steps- Davis 1963-64 recordings is on track for Sept release-7 CDs Quote
Guy Berger Posted October 14, 2004 Report Posted October 14, 2004 Great news! Jan Lohmann posted the following to the Miles list: Please stay alive at least one more year because Next year (2005) Miles would have had 50th anniversary for his signing to Columbia Records and because of this Columbia seems to release the 6CD's in a boxed set. Quote
Claude Posted October 14, 2004 Report Posted October 14, 2004 The news of having this in a 6CD box set is not so great, because the material is very repetitive, but not in an interesting way such as in the Plugged Nickel box. Quote
GregK Posted October 14, 2004 Report Posted October 14, 2004 The news of having this in a 6CD box set is not so great, because the material is very repetitive, but not in an interesting way such as in the Plugged Nickel box. I disagree. I am very much looking forward to another multi-disc box from Columbia. I hope they stick to this announcement Quote
Guy Berger Posted October 14, 2004 Report Posted October 14, 2004 The news of having this in a 6CD box set is not so great, because the material is very repetitive, but not in an interesting way such as in the Plugged Nickel box. I'm not sure what you mean by "not interesting". This band was an exciting unit with four world-class improvisers. They did the material differently every time. Guy Quote
Shrdlu Posted October 14, 2004 Report Posted October 14, 2004 If I buy any more Miles albums, I think my bookcase will collapse. Quote
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