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On 8/25/2021 at 9:25 AM, Peter Friedman said:

Joe Henderson   or   Wayne Shorter  (as Players not Composers)

Shorter

13 hours ago, HutchFan said:

Airto Moreira or Dom Um Romão?

Moreira

11 hours ago, Larry Kart said:

Carl Perkins or Bobby Timmons

Timmons

5 hours ago, BillF said:

Kenny Drew or Sonny Clark?

Only a few of these choices have been easy, and this isn't one of them. Going with Kenny Drew. 

 

Studio Mingus albums or Live Mingus albums?

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On 8/25/2021 at 8:39 AM, Dub Modal said:

Bobby Hutcherson or Walt Dickerson?

 

On 8/25/2021 at 8:53 AM, JSngry said:

Dickerson

Whhhaaaaaattttt?!?!?!?!   :o

:P

 

 

Joe Henderson on Blue Note or Joe Henderson on Milestone?

 

38 minutes ago, Dub Modal said:

Studio Mingus albums or Live Mingus albums?

Studio. 

Since most of my favorite Mingus records are studio:
- Pithecanthropus Erectus
- Blues and Roots
- Oh Yeah
- Charles Mingus Presents Charles Mingus
- Mingus Dynasty
- Mingus, Mingus, Mingus, Mingus, Mingus
- Let My Children Hear Music
- Changes I & Changes II

The downside: No Antibes and nothing from the '64 tour.  :( 

 

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1 minute ago, Kukyukuwai said:

Blue Note (from late thirties to early sixties) or Impulse (from mid sixties on)?

Impulse.  For Coltrane and all the rest.

 

Sonny Rollins on RCA or Sonny Rollins on Blue Note?

 

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Just now, Rabshakeh said:

Have we done Miles Davis' First Quintet or Miles Davis' Second Quintet yet? 

Don't think so. 

I'll take Wayne, Herbie, Ron & Tony.

 

E.S.P. and Miles Smiles?
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Sorcerer and Nefertiti?

 

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1 hour ago, Dub Modal said:
7 minutes ago, HutchFan said:

Don't think so. 

I'll take Wayne, Herbie, Ron & Tony.

 

E.S.P. and Miles Smiles?
or
Sorcerer and Nefertiti?

 

I prefer the first quintet with Trane, Red, Paul, Philly Joe

From earlier;

I prefer Carl Perkins

Sonny Clark

Rollins on Blue Note

Joe Henderson on Blue Note

Studio Mingus

 

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5 hours ago, Dub Modal said:

 

 

Studio Mingus albums or Live Mingus albums?

Studio Mingus

Dameron or Silver as composers?

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Rabshakeh

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1 hour ago, HutchFan said:

E..S.P. and Miles Smiles?

or
Sorcerer and Nefertiti?

Nefertiti easy victor. Two similar albums, one better.

E.S.P v. Miles Smiles is harder, as E.S.P is quite different, and still has its link to the past. I listen to ESP more, so that one.

Push Push or Mister Magic, judged solely on cover art?

42 minutes ago, BillF said:

Dameron or Silver as composers?

Dameron, but narrowly. I think his compositions have more room for interpretation, whereas Silver's always remind you of who did them first.

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7 minutes ago, Rabshakeh said:

Nefertiti easy victor. Two similar albums, one better.

E.S.P v. Miles Smiles is harder, as E.S.P is quite different, and still has its link to the past. I listen to ESP more, so that one.

I meant for them to be chosen as a pair; that is, expressed (sort of) algebraically:

(E.S.P. + Miles Smiles)  OR  (Sorcerer + Nefertiti)

 

Push Push has greater (unintentional?) comic value.  So I'll go with that one.

 

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2 hours ago, BillF said:

Dameron or Silver as composers?

Horace Silver

 

3 hours ago, Rabshakeh said:

Have we done Miles Davis' First Quintet or Miles Davis' Second Quintet yet? 

Davis/Coltrane/Garland/Chambers/Jones.

Henry Threadgill or Roscoe Mitchell?

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6 minutes ago, BillF said:

Frankie Dunlop or Ben Riley in the Monk Quartet?

Dunlop, although Riley gives a better showing live than studio.

Old Socks New Shoes or New Socks Old Shoes?

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3 hours ago, JSngry said:

Dunlop, although Riley gives a better showing live than studio.

Old Socks New Shoes or New Socks Old Shoes?

I quote this not be a troll, but because John is John, and I pretty much agree with him.

From a 1964 John Litweiler review of "Criss Cross" (Columbia):

 

"Frankie Dunlop is certainly the major liability in this quartet. He is an exceptionally facile drummer, but it is amazing how a drummer can be so insensitive to Monk's playing. He has learned all the tricks from Roach, Blakey, Philly Joe, Elvin Jones, Baby Dodds, Joe Podunk and the rest of the gang, and he feels compelled to use every trick in his voluminous bag on every song he plays. It seems that way, anyway; good intentions do not a drummer make. John Ore is an asset to the group, in spite of his unwillingness to solo (he has an appealing habit of playing his solo choruses entirely in double stops); since he plays slightly on top of the beat, he keeps show-off Dunlop from dragging the tempo."

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17 minutes ago, Larry Kart said:

I quote this not be a troll, but because John is John, and I pretty much agree with him.

From a 1964 John Litweiler review of "Criss Cross" (Columbia):

 

"Frankie Dunlop is certainly the major liability in this quartet. He is an exceptionally facile drummer, but it is amazing how a drummer can be so insensitive to Monk's playing. He has learned all the tricks from Roach, Blakey, Philly Joe, Elvin Jones, Baby Dodds, Joe Podunk and the rest of the gang, and he feels compelled to use every trick in his voluminous bag on every song he plays. It seems that way, anyway; good intentions do not a drummer make. John Ore is an asset to the group, in spite of his unwillingness to solo (he has an appealing habit of playing his solo choruses entirely in double stops); since he plays slightly on top of the beat, he keeps show-off Dunlop from dragging the tempo."

Not unlike my feelings about Dunlop. Might be a Chicago thing.

I suppose it is too much to hope for discovery of the first few takes from the Monk's Music date when Wilbur Campbell filled in for the tardy Art Blakey.

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Dub Modal

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21 hours ago, BillF said:

Dameron or Silver as composers?

Lean Silver but I could sway the other way easily...

22 hours ago, HutchFan said:

E.S.P. and Miles Smiles?
or
Sorcerer and Nefertiti?

Miles Smiles is one of my favorite albums ever, the proverbial desert island choice. So ESP/MS it is. Even though the SGQ did no wrong in my eyes. :tup

18 hours ago, kh1958 said:

Henry Threadgill or Roscoe Mitchell?

Roscoe 

17 hours ago, BillF said:

Frankie Dunlop or Ben Riley in the Monk Quartet?

Riley

22 hours ago, Rabshakeh said:

Have we done Miles Davis' First Quintet or Miles Davis' Second Quintet yet?

As stated above, Quintet the 2nd for me. 

15 hours ago, danasgoodstuff said:

Stones or Yardbirds?

Nyet on both. 

 

Bob Cranshaw or Rufus Reid?

 

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