Sonny Simmons: Rumasuma

[felser]

3 hours ago, JSngry said:

I think Hannibal was still in Tezas at the time?

Yep, he was only 16 when it was recorded.  I like the Alan Shorter suggestion a lot.  Also Charles Tolliver would have worked, was already recording adventurous records with Jackie McLean.

[Rabshakeh]

Maybe Clifford Thornton then? I'm counting Ben Dixon put on account of the fact that it doesn't really feel like it's his vibe.

[Д.Д.]

Trumpeters who would have worked better on Ascension could be Manfred Schoof and maybe Jacques Coursil - but probably a couple of years later than 1965. 

[mikeweil]

Why not Don Cherry? 

[Д.Д.]

15 hours ago, mikeweil said:

Why not Don Cherry? 

Yeah sure, him too. 

[clifford_thornton]

Bill Dixon would've been awesome on Ascension though I can see why, in theory, he's not there. 

Thornton and Shorter make a lot of sense and certainly could've been on it. Simmons knew Coltrane, as did Lasha, so I suppose it could've worked out if they were in New York at the time of the recording.

The only player I know of who was asked and demurred as far as being on Ascension was Frank Wright, though there might've been others as well.

[Rabshakeh]

1 hour ago, clifford_thornton said:

 

The only player I know of who was asked and demurred as far as being on Ascension was Frank Wright, though there might've been others as well.

Why did he?

[Pim]

13 hours ago, Rabshakeh said:

Why did he?

I believe he did not see himself as good enough. 

[clifford_thornton]

Correct. He would've been quite something in that context.

[colinmce]

There are innumerable 'what ifs' when it comes to Coltrane but it's not hard to imagine the Rev sliding into Pharoah's spot in the group later in the 60s. John/Alice/Frank/Jimmy/Rashied/auxillary percussion circa 1969 ... the mind reels!