Sonny Simmons: Rumasuma

[Late]

Sonny Simmons: alto saxophone
Barbara Donald: trumpet
Mike Cohen: piano
Jerry Sealund: bass
Bill Pickens: bass
Billy Higgins: drums
recorded July 31 & August 1, 1969
Contemporary Studios, Los Angeles

1. Rumasuma
2. Back To The Apple
3. Reincarnation
4. For Posterity

[felser]

Have long wished for that to show up on CD.  That and 'Home' by Garty Bartz were the two I was most disappointed Fantasy missed in their massive CD reissue campaign in the 80's/90's.

[Pim]

It’s on my wishlist but it is very rare unfortunately. Fantastic music and a very accessible one too.

[sidewinder]

I have it on Contemporary vinyl - like it, it’s in the usual very good sound.

Odd that Fantasy never reissued it.

Edited May 27, 2021 by sidewinder

[Late]

  On 5/27/2021 at 5:23 PM, sidewinder said:

... it’s in the usual very good sound.

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Discogs only lists "recorded at Contemporary Studios," but I wonder if Roy DuNann was the engineer (in 1969?). Lester Koenig produced.

This is prime Sonny Simmons, but the album, in my opinion, really belongs to Barbara Donald. Some of her finest solos. The ghost of Booker Little smiled during the recording.

[Chuck Nessa]

  On 5/27/2021 at 11:58 PM, Late said:

Discogs only lists "recorded at Contemporary Studios," but I wonder if Roy DuNann was the engineer (in 1969?). Lester Koenig produced.

This is prime Sonny Simmons, but the album, in my opinion, really belongs to Barbara Donald. Some of her finest solos. The ghost of Booker Little smiled during the recording.

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I no longer have the vinyl, but do have "Burning Spears" on cd. That disc says Produced and recorded by Lester Koenig. John Koenig is on Facebook - try contacting him there.

[corto maltese]

  On 5/27/2021 at 11:58 PM, Late said:

Discogs only lists "recorded at Contemporary Studios," but I wonder if Roy DuNann was the engineer (in 1969?). Lester Koenig produced.

 

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Roy DuNann left Contemporary in the early 60s. The number of recordings with him as a sound engineer is surprisingly (and disappointingly) small.

The funny thing is that he started working for Koenig recording dixieland jazz (for the Good Time Jazz label). That's where his heart was. He didn't like at all the modern jazz that Koenig started recording for Contemporary. I remember from an interview I've read the question what his thoughts were when he was recording those historic first sessions of Ornette Coleman. His answer was something like: "I would have sent the boy home."

[Late]

  On 5/28/2021 at 10:56 AM, corto maltese said:

Roy DuNann left Contemporary in the early 60s.

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Must be someone else then. Regardless, a good recording.

This album deserves to be better known. In the documentary posted above, there's a short clip where Simmons himself gets out his vinyl copy and talks about it. Oddly, Brewster's documentary makes little mention of Barbara Donald. The scene where Simmons locates the pecan tree in Louisiana (and disturbing site of Jim Crow violence) from his youth is moving.

Too bad Jonathan Horwich couldn't have reissued this album on International Phonograph, but what he did release is a small treasure.

[Late]

  On 5/28/2021 at 2:34 PM, Late said:

In the documentary posted above, there's a short clip where Simmons himself gets out his vinyl copy and talks about it.

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Just realized I didn't post any link to a documentary. Here it is. Simmons was indeed a last man standing.

[Late]

Sonny Simmons

San Francisco Chronicle article.

Simmons' 1991 reunion with Donald, here. Neither had lost their touch.

[Late]

This is what Simmons fans need to watch:

 

[Dub Modal]

Great doc @Late. Thanks for sharing. 

[jlhoots]

Craft should put out Rumasuma on CD!

[Pim]

They should make a nice twofold reissue with a cd and an LP version. Or a deluxe edition with the Prince Lasha sessions and the Burning Spirits in a boxed set

[soulpope]

This album is a Barbara Donald showcase ....

[optatio]

  On 11/20/2022 at 10:53 AM, soulpope said:

This album is a Barbara Donald showcase ....

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Agreed! I have that album and this ...

[Pim]

  On 11/20/2022 at 10:53 AM, soulpope said:

This album is a Barbara Donald showcase ....

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Yeah I still remember I heard her playing the first time on his ESP work. I thought I was listening to some well known postbopper to found out it was Donald. I didn’t knew of her yet. Fantastic trumpeter.

Edited November 21, 2022 by Pim

[soulpope]

  On 11/21/2022 at 12:32 PM, Pim said:

Yeah I still remember I heard her playing the first time on his ESP work. I thought I was listening to some well known postbopper to found out it was Donald. I didn’t knew of her yet. Fantastic trumpeter.

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Yep ....

[Late]

I still think that Barbara Donald should've been on Ascension. 

[unitstructures]

  On 11/20/2022 at 4:58 AM, Pim said:

They should make a nice twofold reissue with a cd and an LP version. Or a deluxe edition with the Prince Lasha sessions and the Burning Spirits in a boxed set

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I would totally buy a Simmons-Lasha box. Totally underserved in this era of plentiful reissues.

[JSngry]

  On 11/22/2022 at 4:53 PM, Late said:

I still think that Barbara Donald should've been on Ascension. 

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In place of Freddie or in place of Dewey?

Or in addition to both of them?

[Late]

  On 11/22/2022 at 6:51 PM, JSngry said:

In place of Freddie or in place of Dewey?

Or in addition to both of them?

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She could have subbed in for either, but—yes!—a third trumpet would also fit the bill.

Donald really was one of the finest "out" trumpet players of the period. Or any period.

[Rabshakeh]

  On 11/22/2022 at 6:51 PM, JSngry said:

In place of Freddie or in place of Dewey?

Or in addition to both of them?

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  On 11/23/2022 at 1:56 AM, Late said:

She could have subbed in for either, but—yes!—a third trumpet would also fit the bill.

Donald really was one of the finest "out" trumpet players of the period. Or any period.

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I think you could have subbed either for her, and possibly someone else like Hannibal, Alan Shorter or Don Cherry. I think that in the context they'd all have been an improvement. The trumpet playing is one of the weaker points of that record.

[JSngry]

I think Hannibal was still in Tezas at the time?

[Late]

We have an "Ascension Name Game" thread that I should bump back up. Jazz fun!