bertrand Posted March 31, 2021 Report Posted March 31, 2021 (edited) There are so many private tapes out there. So glad Gene went this route for all jazz fans to enjoy! I would do this for Left Bank if it were up to me. A lot of those are sub-par audio quality, by design. The artists were told that the recordings were 'for the archives'. This site is an 'archive'. Someone's basement or a record label vault - not an archive. Stanford has a Monterey jazz archive. I love the principle of this, but you can only audition on-site, which I totally understand but am of course frustrated by. I plan to drop in if I ever do go back to California. Bertrand. Edited March 31, 2021 by bertrand Quote
JSngry Posted March 31, 2021 Report Posted March 31, 2021 The Belgrade Rollins session was booted by Jazz Door in what memory tells me is a little better SQ than this...but that's ok, these Perla Sonnytapes are uber-welcome to these ears! Not even lo-fi can hide the pure power of that sound! Quote
Daniel A Posted March 31, 2021 Report Posted March 31, 2021 Who is the "Pete Rose" playing tenor sax on the Chick Corea track? It sounds late 60s-ish. Quote
Daniel A Posted March 31, 2021 Report Posted March 31, 2021 Most probably! There is some killer Jan Hammer in a 1970 trio with Perla and Don Alias, BTW. I would have wanted to have so much more recordings of Hammer from this era. Quote
JSngry Posted March 31, 2021 Report Posted March 31, 2021 The Vaughan w/Hammer date had been circulating for a while. It's excellent, glad that it's available for a broader audience. Hammer's another one of those guys that how he ended up is nothing like how he started out. Quote
Dub Modal Posted March 31, 2021 Report Posted March 31, 2021 Yeah, this Hammer stuff is great. Never heard it myself but loving it. Quote
mjzee Posted March 31, 2021 Report Posted March 31, 2021 This seems a good moment to recommend this album, if you can find it: Quote
mjzee Posted June 8, 2022 Report Posted June 8, 2022 On 3/31/2021 at 2:34 PM, Daniel A said: Who is the "Pete Rose" playing tenor sax on the Chick Corea track? It sounds late 60s-ish. Listening now to the Corea tracks, and am very curious about Pete Rose on tenor and John Dense on drums. Google searches reveal nothing on either. These guys sound too assured and professional to be unknowns. Anyone here willing to venture a guess? Quote
JSngry Posted June 8, 2022 Report Posted June 8, 2022 This might be Pete Rose: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Rose_(musician Recorder is a bore instrument (acoustical term, not judgemental!), like clarinet. So if you can play one, the transfer to tenor (a cylindrical bore, as oppose to a conical bone) would require only a minimum of effort. Quote
mjzee Posted June 8, 2022 Report Posted June 8, 2022 17 minutes ago, JSngry said: This might be Pete Rose: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Rose_(musician Recorder is a bore instrument (acoustical term, not judgemental!), like clarinet. So if you can play one, the transfer to tenor (a cylindrical bore, as oppose to a conical bone) would require only a minimum of effort. I saw that. The Wikipedia guy seems steeped in the classical tradition and culture, so it seems unlikely he also played free jazz tenor. Not impossible, sure, but highly unlikely. The Perla tape also lists no recording date. I see this listing in Corea's discography; could it yield some clues?: Elvin Jones Quintet Joe Farrell, tenor sax, flute; Frank Foster, tenor, soprano sax; Chick Corea, piano; Gene Perla, bass; Elvin Jones, drums. "John Coltrane Memorial Concert", "Town Hall", NYC, September 12, 1971 Shinjitu PM Records PMR-004; Jazz Door (G) JD 1255 Simone - * PM Records PMR-004 Elvin Jones Live * Jazz Door (G) JD 1255 Elvin Jones - The John Coltrane Memorial Concert Quote
Larry Kart Posted June 8, 2022 Report Posted June 8, 2022 1 hour ago, mjzee said: Listening now to the Corea tracks, and am very curious about Pete Rose on tenor and John Dense on drums. Google searches reveal nothing on either. These guys sound too assured and professional to be unknowns. Anyone here willing to venture a guess? Would that be John Dentz? Quote
JSngry Posted June 8, 2022 Report Posted June 8, 2022 Pete Rose (1942-2018) was an American recorder player, composer, and critic. He was the foremost interpreter of contemporary classical music for recorder, and one of the few recorder players to play jazz on the instrument... Contemporary classical & "free jazz", not at all an incongruous pair. Especially if he was not looking to make a career out of it. Curious musicians interact in all kinds of ways. At least they used to. Not saying that this is definitely the guy, just that it would not be shocking if it was, especially if this was just a loft-type jam. That might even be why Perla recorded it to begin with, to have a document of this one guy doing this other thing. Quote
mjzee Posted June 8, 2022 Report Posted June 8, 2022 3 hours ago, Larry Kart said: Would that be John Dentz? Interesting; could be. He had an association with Chick Corea - see the link. Could the tenor be Ernie Watts? https://www.amazon.com/John-Dentz-Reunion-Band/dp/B000066E7T Quote
david weiss Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 On 3/30/2021 at 6:00 AM, sambrasa said: I used Audacity to record this show in real time. The chatter between those tracks and quality of sound implies this might be a studio recording. The last, untitled, composition might be "Will" by Miroslav Vitous, which appeared later in the 1970's on the Rypdal/Vitous/DeJohnette ECM album. I spoke to Perla yesterday and asked him about a few of these things..... He said the Weather Report with Cobham was a rehearsal. I also asked him about the Jeremy Steig with Jan Hammer, Tommy Bolin and Billy Cobham (the personnel from Cobham's Spectrum album, a favorite of mine so this was a curiosity to me). He said a Bolin fan released this on some sort of Tommy Bolin compilation a few years back. Quote
soulpope Posted January 24 Report Posted January 24 Really dig the unreleased Art Pepper Village Vanguard recordings from 1977 feat Onaje Allan Gumbs, Gene Perla and Joe LaBarbera .... shared by Laurie Pepper but can't find the weblink anymore .... Quote
Daniel A Posted December 9 Report Posted December 9 On 3/31/2021 at 11:18 PM, JSngry said: The Vaughan w/Hammer date had been circulating for a while. It's excellent, glad that it's available for a broader audience. Hammer's another one of those guys that how he ended up is nothing like how he started out. I listened again to some of this stuff (for instance the recordings with Vaughan) and one thing I find interesting with Hammer is that his touch on the Fender Rhodes is more expressive than on acoustic piano, where he sometimes sounds a bit cold. (Like Ahmad Jamal, although his style is completely different) In contrast, Hammer's Rhodes playing and touch is among the more personal and captivating (in my opinion, at least). There are other jazz players who have a very personal touch and style on the instrument (Chick Corea and Cedar Walton, to name two), but Hammer stands out as the only player I can think of who sounds *better* on Rhodes than piano in a "jazz" (rather than "fusion") context. Quote
soulpope Posted December 9 Report Posted December 9 45 minutes ago, Daniel A said: I listened again to some of this stuff (for instance the recordings with Vaughan) and one thing I find interesting with Hammer is that his touch on the Fender Rhodes is more expressive than on acoustic piano, where he sometimes sounds a bit cold. (Like Ahmad Jamal, although his style is completely different) In contrast, Hammer's Rhodes playing and touch is among the more personal and captivating (in my opinion, at least). There are other jazz players who have a very personal touch and style on the instrument (Chick Corea and Cedar Walton, to name two), but Hammer stands out as the only player I can think of who sounds *better* on Rhodes than piano in a "jazz" (rather than "fusion") context. Interesting observations .... would disagree about Ahmad Jamal sounding " cold" on piano though .... Quote
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