clifford_thornton Posted March 7, 2021 Report Posted March 7, 2021 On 2/15/2021 at 11:19 AM, Stonewall15 said: Looking for release of Transition LP TRLP-18 Jay Migliori "Jazz Down Beat". Definitely existed at one time. Complete listing is in Lord discography. One song "Something's Gotta Give" was released in the Transition Sampler LP TRLP-30. The booklet for TRLP-30 also has a description of the Migliori session. yeah, me too. Been curious about it. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted March 7, 2021 Report Posted March 7, 2021 26 minutes ago, clifford_thornton said: yeah, me too. Been curious about it. When I was at Delmark in the middle '60s and we were purchasing Transition masters (we got a Donald Byrd and 2 Sun Ra sessions, one unissued) the master list provided to us said the Migliori was unissued and in the in the hands of Jay. Quote
medjuck Posted March 7, 2021 Report Posted March 7, 2021 45 minutes ago, Chuck Nessa said: OK: Reissued. Quote
felser Posted March 7, 2021 Report Posted March 7, 2021 51 minutes ago, Chuck Nessa said: When I was at Delmark in the middle '60s and we were purchasing Transition masters (we got a Donald Byrd and 2 Sun Ra sessions, one unissued) the master list provided to us said the Migliori was unissued and in the in the hands of Jay. What's the back story on why some, but not all, of the Transition catalog went to Blue Note, and some to Delmark later? And some, apparently, nowhere. May be common knowledge, but I don't know it. Seems especially odd that BN would have taken two of the three Donald Byrd titles, but not the third one. Quote
Ken Dryden Posted March 7, 2021 Author Report Posted March 7, 2021 I wonder why the Walter Davis trio tracks were omitted from the One Night With Blue Note Preserved CDs? Walter Davis: piano, Reggie Workman - bass, Art Blakey - drums Criss Cross Bud's Bubble I've Got Rhythm Six additonal songs from other sets were omitted as well... Quote
clifford_thornton Posted March 7, 2021 Report Posted March 7, 2021 11 hours ago, felser said: What's the back story on why some, but not all, of the Transition catalog went to Blue Note, and some to Delmark later? And some, apparently, nowhere. May be common knowledge, but I don't know it. Seems especially odd that BN would have taken two of the three Donald Byrd titles, but not the third one. did the masters go to the artists who then sold or licensed them to certain labels? Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted March 7, 2021 Report Posted March 7, 2021 20 minutes ago, clifford_thornton said: did the masters go to the artists who then sold or licensed them to certain labels? No, all the material was in the hands of one entity. They circulated a list of the masters. The masters sold were crossed out and the new owner penciled in - either BN or Migliori. For some reason I remember "Phoenix" being part of the company name. I always thought it was creditors trying to get their money back. Quote
clifford_thornton Posted March 7, 2021 Report Posted March 7, 2021 Gotcha; creditors are believable. Quote
Stonewall15 Posted March 7, 2021 Report Posted March 7, 2021 According to Jordi Pujol (Fresh Sound Records) many tapes were bequeathed to him from Migliori for release. I contacted Jordi Pujol and he said he could not find the tape for TRLP-18. Quote
felser Posted March 7, 2021 Report Posted March 7, 2021 14 hours ago, Ken Dryden said: I wonder why the Walter Davis trio tracks were omitted from the One Night With Blue Note Preserved CDs? Walter Davis: piano, Reggie Workman - bass, Art Blakey - drums Criss Cross Bud's Bubble I've Got Rhythm Six additonal songs from other sets were omitted as well... The CD's were identical issues of the vinyl albums. The four albums featured either musicians who were signed to BN at the time or musicials who were going to obviously sell units. Davis would not have met either of those criteria. A box set of the full performances would be nice. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Night_with_Blue_Note#One_Night_with_Blue_Note_Preserved_(LP_&_CD) Quote
mikeweil Posted March 7, 2021 Report Posted March 7, 2021 18 hours ago, Ken Dryden said: I wonder why the Walter Davis trio tracks were omitted from the One Night With Blue Note Preserved CDs? Walter Davis: piano, Reggie Workman - bass, Art Blakey - drums Criss Cross Bud's Bubble I've Got Rhythm Six additonal songs from other sets were omitted as well... The Davis Trio tracks are marked "rejected" in the Lord Disco, as is "Paper Moon" from the nexr part with Hubbard, Fuller, & Griffin. There are four marked "unissued" and one more "rejected". Quote
Ken Dryden Posted March 7, 2021 Author Report Posted March 7, 2021 (edited) I wonder what Lord’s source was for the rejected status. They are listed as unissued in the Blue Nite Discography. Edited March 8, 2021 by Ken Dryden Quote
felser Posted March 8, 2021 Report Posted March 8, 2021 Certainly seems like a compatible rhythm section. I've noticed that many rejected BN sessions are because of the drummer, and they regather with a different drummer a few days/weeks later and successfully cut the same material. Quote
Chuck Nessa Posted March 8, 2021 Report Posted March 8, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, felser said: Certainly seems like a compatible rhythm section. I've noticed that many rejected BN sessions are because of the drummer, and they regather with a different drummer a few days/weeks later and successfully cut the same material. That was earlier with Alfred in control. Producers have profiles not labels. With the change of control labels may imitate but not duplicate. Edited March 8, 2021 by Chuck Nessa Quote
Ken Dryden Posted March 8, 2021 Author Report Posted March 8, 2021 I just did a bit of digging and found that two tracks unissued on the four LPs/ four CDs were included on the One Night With Blue Note DVD: Lou Donaldson, Jimmy Smith, Kenny Burrell, Grady Tate: Blues Walk Stanley Turrentine, Jimmy Smith, Kenny Burrell, Grady Tate: Scratch My Back Quote
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