Dub Modal Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 Yes, definitely economics which might include more licensing costs? But every niche label out there is doing limited vinyl runs these days. They sell out almost immediately at around the 500 unit mark, especially if they’re colored variants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 What color would a Mosaic LP be? Black? Or white? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub Modal Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 Well they’ve stuck with that box color and style for decades, but work in a bicolor splatter LP and people lose their minds. They could probably cover 2 years worth of overhead with a couple of surprise vinyl projects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 The Mosaic Splatter! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Bresnahan Posted March 1, 2021 Report Share Posted March 1, 2021 Mosaic sold out of the CD version of "The Complete CBS Recordings of Eddie Condon and His All Stars" years before they sold the last LP box. Although I don't think that would be true today, it might weigh into their thought process. We also don't know how they made out financially on those Miles Davis LP boxes. Maybe they decided there is not enough market there? FWIW, the Tone Poet LPs of Tina Brooks' Blue Note recordings are selling at a higher price point, even used, than the 4 LPs in the Mosaic box on the secondary market. So it's not just about it being on vinyl. It's gotta be on the right vinyl and/or cut by the right engineer. Maybe a splatter pressing would help sell it? Or have a certain mastering/cutting team involved? Maybe offer it through Vinyl Me Please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted March 2, 2021 Report Share Posted March 2, 2021 I don't really know, but I suspect that Lps are more expensive to manufacture. Chuck, weigh in here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted March 2, 2021 Report Share Posted March 2, 2021 It is more expensive and the risks are higher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyin' Wolf Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 On 3/1/2021 at 1:31 PM, JSngry said: What color would a Mosaic LP be? Black? Or white? Marble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Dryden Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 Not to mention with the shortage of pressing plants for LPs and inconsistent quality, I doubt that Mosaic would want to try to do a limited edition LP boxed set of 2500 to 3500 units, the economics would require a much higher price per disc than Mosaic customers are used to paying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dub Modal Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 Correct. They'd have to do a run of 500 and charge the equivalent of what Craft and the MoFi One Steps go for, but with more LPs (so around $300 I'm guessing for this Henderson set). The retentiveness of the customers in that market is off the charts, so anything less than perfect would be sent back. So they would have to invest in some very high level QC. But...they'd sell out preorder if they did this. Blue Note knows this market for jazz vinyl otherwise they'd never do that Lee Morgan Lighthouse complete set. They have more scale of course than a small player like Mosaic, but I'd have to think those guys can pull some strings, call in some favors, etc. to get it done. All of these small labels press limited run LPs on Bandcamp and for the more well known artists, they sell out in presale (See what Hive Mind did for Sonny Sharrock and what's probably about to happen with Sun Ra's Lanquidity). It can be done, but I have no doubt that Mosaic's heart isn't in that type of product anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted March 4, 2021 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 I detest these splatter colors. This one from VMP just seems wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted March 4, 2021 Report Share Posted March 4, 2021 This was the one I had back in the day, Dave Mason's "Alone Together". Great album, but between the marblized vinyl and the triple fold LP jacket.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pglbook Posted March 8, 2021 Report Share Posted March 8, 2021 On 2/26/2021 at 3:40 PM, JSngry said: Are we sure it's not targeted for an April 1 release? Perhaps it will be April 1, 2022, ha. Still no word about it on the Mosaic website, or anywhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 9, 2021 Report Share Posted March 9, 2021 oh, THIS Joe Henderson! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thirdtry Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) Dusty Groove has a brand new listing up for The Complete Joe Henderson Blue Note Studio Sessions. The Mosaic box is a 5CD set and has a street date of about September 1st. Edited March 24, 2021 by thirdtry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) On 09/03/2021 at 0:08 AM, JSngry said: oh, THIS Joe Henderson No...... THIS Joe Henderson.. ! Edited March 24, 2021 by sidewinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 24, 2021 Report Share Posted March 24, 2021 Oh, THAT Joe Henderson! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted April 1, 2021 Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 The Joe Henderson set has sold out!! Damn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted April 1, 2021 Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 But they have announced a download option. Great to see Mosaic moving with the times... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 1, 2021 Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 I talked to Scotscuna this morning and he told me that the reason the new release schedule is so lite is that they're investing in holographic technology, so instead of just hearing dead people play, you'll be able to see them, right there in your living room. All of the action and none of the need to leave a lock off the bathroom door! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted April 1, 2021 Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 32 minutes ago, ghost of miles said: The Joe Henderson set has sold out!! Damn. We all know what day it is but sadly the way Mosaic work these days it could be true. Look how many folks missed out on the Bill Barron set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted April 1, 2021 Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 1 minute ago, David Ayers said: We all know what day it is but sadly the way Mosaic work these days it could be true. Look how many folks missed out on the Bill Barron set. That was a very limited edition! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted April 1, 2021 Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 2 hours ago, JSngry said: I talked to Scotscuna this morning and he told me that the reason the new release schedule is so lite is that they're investing in holographic technology, so instead of just hearing dead people play, you'll be able to see them, right there in your living room. All of the action and none of the need to leave a lock off the bathroom door! But will be limited to 5000 hauntings. And no secondary market, so be sure to pre-order if you are interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 1, 2021 Report Share Posted April 1, 2021 I also hear they're taking Bitcoin now. I think they all want new Teslas. So what i want to know is...can I gets the hologram of Pops playing while standing up in a Tesla, like King Of The Zulus 21st Century style? The future does indeed lie ahead! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmonahan Posted April 5, 2021 Report Share Posted April 5, 2021 I was still furious Thursday that I hadn't invested in the damn Buddy Bolden set. gregmo gregmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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